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Fortnite Worldwide Creative Director Donald Mustard pledges that Epic Games will push for the enabling of crossplay among all platforms.
Yeah. only Xbox fans want to play with their friends on other platforms, and not to have to pick and choose between them.
Not really.
Why don’t you show me all the PlayStation fans begging for cross-play then? All I hear is Xbox fans talking about it.
The console gamers choose is usually where their friends are anyways.
I'm certainly not an "Xbox fan". I like and enjoy all platforms. And I have advocated for full cross play for yeaes. Hence yes, not just Xbox fans want it.
Who in their right mind would really not want to play with the largest pool of gamers possible? When you combine PSN with XBL with PC you just cant ignore the possibilities.
@Darth
You fail to understand that the size of the ps community online means that adding more means absolutely nothing. To many players to run into the same ones over and over. It really is irrelevant to such a large current crowd. I would understand your point if a game only has a couple thousand playing it but that is not the case 99/100 times.
When Sony wanted cross-play last gen Microsoft didn't want it but now Sony is very successful with 70,000,000 ps4 sold while Microsoft has 30,000,000 Xbox one's sold they want cross-play with PlayStation. I say no to cross-play unless it's pc.
@Trumpwonstopcrying
It's free the don't need to convince you of anything regardless what it looks like
I only own a Pro and I'd love to play Xbox players. There's this girl I know who owns and Xbox and asked if anyone wanted to play with her on Facebook- 95% of her friends asked if she had PS4.
It's not just that though, it's just overall better, larger population means faster matches, and we can finally have Xbox vs PS matches for a true console war. I've heard the argument that if one of your friends own one system and the other another system, then you'd do best to play each other's games when you hang out. It's sensible.
Now why not play the games that are multiplatform together when you're at separate houses as well? It's the EXACT same concept as playing with a PS friend, so the argument that nobody's asking for it is utter bullshit.
Yeah, outside of MMO's how often can you actually play with your friends with cross play games between consoles and PC? AFAIK, there isn't any game that allows this, as matchmaking of that nature is through the console or PC service, and they aren't directly accessible to one another.
To date, no one has been able to answer my question about which games outside MMO's which require a different account to play them allow direct match making with people from a friends list.
You're good about answering questions and not giving into hyperbole....maybe you can name one. I'd rather see this argument die, because cross play doesn't provide this now, so even if people got cross play, they wouldn't be getting what they want.
I'm not too fussed about having PS players on cross play, reading your comments here is enough to drive me nuts so I dread to think what it would be like having to listen to you over a mic!
It was enabled through a "glitch" for Epic's Fornite a little while back. Look it up. Xbox and playstation players were playing together.
Apparently it's pretty damn simple to implement, it's just Sony being anal about it.
@ZaWarudo actually I think it was Microsoft that stepped in to block it. MS have repeatedly stated that they are open to cross-play, but the implementation from Epic broke some policy and MS intervened.
It is almost certainly around the way micro-transactions are handled.
Honestly, I'm amazed it is even a thing. I feel like controller differences (d-pad positioning, analog dead zones, etc. ) and performance differences (frame rate) would make this an impractical proposition. I don't know how Sony manages cross play with PC, but I guess nothing I mentioned bears on that enough to warrant concern.
Personally, I don't care enough to be for or against it. The games I do play online have a big enough community so I don't sweat it.
@mako what makes your post funny is that the game supports PS4 and PC cross-play. Hell yes I'm afraid so.
The advantages of Cross Play would be increasing the lifespan of Multiplayer Games.
@Sonic_Vs_Mario
“The advantages of Cross Play would be increasing the lifespan of Multiplayer Games.”
If a multiplayer game need its lifespan increased the game isn’t that popular in the first place. Cross platform play isn’t going to save a dying game.
Titanfall 2 would br a prime example of an excellent game that would benefit from crossplay massively.
Wait, so if a game has a small fan base it doesn’t deserve to have a chance. What kind of gamer are you? Cross play helps developers, communities and gamers. How could anyone be against it. I’ve yet to see one valid reason not to have it.
maybe a good compromise would be to allow crossplay on games that have been out for some time, say 6 mos - a year
That's sort of an untested theory though. Popular MP games go on a long time, and usually only die if the company shuts down the servers. unpopular MP games tend to die across the board within a month or two from the systems that has the higher user base....and then the servers are shut down.
If people care that much, then they'd be better off going for the platform which has the highest user base for whatever game they want. Unfortunately, that's not always going to be the same for each new MP game that catches people's fancy, so those that like MP just have to take a gamble that they'll be able to play as long as they want.
Too many factors persist to make this be a real issue IMO.
Bullshit . People have friends. Those friends have different games consoles. Removing this stupid barrier benefits everyone. Those against it are only mindlessly protecting their favourite corporation's stance/ resistance to this.
Crossplay needs to happen.
Why is that solution when the tech is there and it’s as easy as flipping a switch in some cases. Your solution is just sad.
The only cross play console players want is between consoles. Most people play games that are shooter based, the last thing a consoler want is to play against PC players. That alone just doesn't make sense but a game like Rocket League works fine and PS users can play against PC players. The most popular games on PC are exclusive to the PC and the rest are shooters (CS, Overwatch etc.). This whole concept of cross play directly ties into PS and Xbox. I can see why Sony won't do it when I see a lot of people on BF 1 on Xbox complain they can't get into a room with the DLC. I, as a gamer, would LOVE for Xbox and PS be able to play together. I am trying to think of a popular game that is PvP that would work well with PC players and consoles gamers. In my eyes, only MS gets a gain out of all of this. Like I said, please flip that switch!
What game outside of MMO's allows you to connect and play with your friends using cross play? PC and console cross play has been around for a while, and no one has answered this question for me.
Also, from my experience, most friends tend to have the same console. I'm sure there are people who have people they know that they sometimes play with that may span different game platforms.
Would be nice if cross play happened, but it doesn't need to happen. Gaming and gamers have been just fine for a long time without it being between consoles. Otherwise, the PC market is big enough that it serves the purpose of extending a games life, and there are plenty of people on PC that you can likely find some of your friends on there.
@rainslacker
"What game outside of MMO's allows you to connect and play with your friends using cross play? PC and console cross play has been around for a while, and no one has answered this question for me. "
Fortnite. Voice comms. Parties.
Question answered
Exactly. And just maybe people need to look beyond this gen. I mean, what IF the PS5 isn’t the (and I hate using this term) “winner” next gen and THEY have a smaller pool. It should be looked at as a healthy option for ALL gamers to play whomever they want. It reeks or “proprietary” bs. Look what happens to Betamax, mini disc, etc. history has shown when you lock people out, you almost never win the “long game”. Do you ever think that maybe when people go to get their NEXT system, they might think “I can play with my Sony friends, or I can play with everybody else.”
Well, glad that settled. How about naming one that came out before Fortnite, since I've been asking this question for a long time, and since it hasn't been an option, I always wondered why people kept using it as a reason to support cross play.
Last I read fortnite wasn't cross play, but cross progression, but was confused since I've seen people talking about it outside the instance that it was enabled by accident. But the confusion was because it's not available on the BR mode.
Anyhow, looking into it, it requires a secondary account to enable that service. The Epics friends list in this case. Not many games actually have this kind of secondary account in the console market....although they're often available as an option on the PC.
I only own a PS4 this gen and i absolutely want crossplay. I have some friends on Xbox i would like to play with. There is no downside to crossplay.
Look up. This is an article about a creative director at Epic pushing for cross-play.
Or is he just an Xbox fan too?
If what you are saying is true, then PS fans are a gigantic antisocial group of losers. Why wouldn't you want to play with or against other gamers on other consoles? You think you would catch something? You sound like some preteen kid who thinks he is in some exclusive club because mom bought him a PC 4. I don't even play MP games much, but I do see the fun of playing with or against gamers on other platforms. The biggest winners are first gamers, then the industry (mostly 3rd party. Sony M$ and Nintendo game nothing unless they charge for connection to their networks. If they charge, then it would just fail.
So Epic games is Xbox fans? You guys make no sense at all. Epic and the makers of Rocket League are not Xbox fans, they are developers who want to enable this. So let me revese your assessment of the situation, all I have seen is Sony fanatics who have no respect for Xbox argue against it.
If you don't want to play with Xbox fans then don't but again what is it with you guys and having choices?
@MakoD
"Well when it comes to matchmaking there won't be a choice... assuming the developer put everyone in on big pool.... PS players could be matched up with PC players... anyone with a half brain can see why this is a no go."
PSN players are already matching with PC gamers, so tell me again why now it's a problem with the Xbox?
"From a business perspective, there is nothing for Sony to gain out of this - Microsoft simply wants more Microsoft account and Microsoft store users.... if you think they care about you.... well I have a bridge to sell you."
Do you work for Sony? If not then stop representing them.
What an absoloute moron you are.
Why is supporting crossplay begging for a start.
Then why on earth would no one want cross play, you would have to be a major fanboy to support not wanting a feature that opens up gaming for everyone even more.
For once those who are against crossplay actually sit there and let those rusty cogs turn around in your broken down brains and realise crossplay is an enhancement to everyone who plays multiplayer games. Cross play connects gaming platforms together and there less chance of games dieting off or at least it brings longer life to online games for a start. Not to mention there is money cross play could potentially generate down the line in all the possible console wars that could be brought to E games, leagues and tournaments alike. Yeah crossplay could actually pave the way for even bringing clan support back onto games which has been forgot pretty much this gen but at one point last gen there were lots of games doing it.
Eventually crossplay could evolve from a some service into a fully supported service with tons of features.
God damn, anyone would think Sony actually has to so down with the United nations or something here with the way some Sony fanboys are going off, I never heard so much nonsense but this gens award for most fandouches deffo goes to the Sony fanboys as you have been extra this gen than most.
Don't hold the industry back, support gaming in all directions, not just what you own.
Your talking about cross play too or should I say being a bitch all because Xbox owners support it and enjoy talking about it. You think there's not many PlayStation players that would support crossplay or enjoy knowing they either get to play with other peeps of other consoles, don't be so blind of course there'd be tons of Sony owners who went as fanboy headed as you that enjoy gaming as is and so long as there gaming is being enhanced in someway, why not support crossplay??
Just because the fanboys on n4g don't support it doesn't mean the rest of the population of Sony consoles agrees with you..
I've got plenty of friends that game on both Xbox One and PS4.
What's the harm in having crossplay with both sides.
Maybe PlayStation fans should get over themselves and realize what a good consumer friendly feature is when they see one.
I have a ps4 and want crossplay to happen. So your wrong there lil tike.
I wouldn't want cross play with pc personally. It's just unfair for those on fixed hardware. Mouse and keyboard plus variable frqmerates make for a bad time for anyone but Pc players.
The reason you don’t have Sony fans begging for it, is because they Sony doesn’t allow it. Hence they don’t want to make them look bad.
Xbox fans did the same thing when Microsoft didn’t want it years ago.
Though it would only help Sony. As would letting mods happen. They sell so well because of exclusives. No reason to give any other company any advantage. Let it happen!
Your false sense of "loyalty" and your way of thinking is what's wrong with the gaming community.
You can't base things from what you see on here as this site doesn't represent an entire fan base
If you're making an multiplayer online game, having a large player base is everything.
It provides longevity to multiplat games. As an adult who doesn't give a shit what console someone else owns- so long as I can game together, this is an excellent initiative.
Imagine being able to pick up a 10 yo game & being able to find a game without joining some sort of clan/community that plays at specific times, because that's the issue happening now when the people who play the exact same game are fractured between 3 platforms.
All these comments saying "it's not in Sony's best interest" really disturbs me, we're gamers! OUR interests should come first! Capitalism is entitlement, we're allowed to expect more from ongoing services, we don't have to accept the status quo.
Don't be a fanboy, crossplay benefits everyone, and any console makers who thinks/says otherwise don't have you're best interests at heart, there's simply no excuse for not having crossplay, for console only gamers at least
Only PS4 fanboys think crossplay is a bad thing...
I bet ya'll will sing a different tune when more games will leave out PS4 when doing Crossplay. Like Minecraft and Rocket League.
Guess I'm not a "true gamer" then, but coming from you that doesn't really mean anything. Crossplay isn't needed for one to be a true gamer so take your hyperbolic propaganda speech elsewhere.
@Offroad
"Guess I'm not a "true gamer" then, but coming from you that doesn't really mean anything. Crossplay isn't needed for one to be a true gamer so take your hyperbolic propaganda speech elsewhere."
Guess not.
Crossplay isn't needed but only a certain kind of person would not want it to happen
Says the guy who will say how bad Sony's exclusives are because they are Sony exclusives.
@rainslacker
Yeah well done.
Now lets see what excuse you spew out knowing that Fortnite supports parties and chat.
Lol you guys act like there's not millions of people on xbox live. It would just be nice to be able to play with some of my friends that play ps4.
No excuse. I learned something new today. That's cool. Curious why people used this as a reason for over a year now considering fortnite hasn't been out that long, but I'll let it lay going forward. But whatever, I guess you win the argument. Kudos.
But up until I learned something new today, I had every reason to ask the question, because it seemed silly for people to keep using the reason for support of cross play when it wasn't an actual feature available. I mean, if they said they'd hope that that feature would come if cross play became more regular, then that'd be different, but people using the argument made it seem like it was a regular and forgone conclusion they'd have the feature.
If there was something long before Fortnite, then I couldn't find it when I searched for a game that supported said feature(and I really did spend time searching because I was really curious), but no one was forthcoming about giving me an answer. I do believe one person actually addressed it once, and said it was more about getting that feature in the future, and it was a nice conversation. Not bitter or stupid like most of the conversations I have with you nowadays.
Now, what's your excuse for having something negative to say about every Sony exclusive? I mean, even I don't say MS actual exclusive games are bad, except on the occasion I feel they're not very good.
Paragon is coming to other latforms this year.
With Sony's cooperation with Nintendo I could see it being crossplay with that, or if they stick to just requiring an epic I'd I could see it crossplay with xbox
I would actually love cross play with switch and PS4. Being able to play rocket league online with friends while laying in bed or on the go would be amazing
Go for it Epic! I did crossplay on Fortnite with ps4 and PC, PvP and with voice chat. It was an incredible feeling.
Or by purpose more like, just to get it out there that it was easy done and to shove it at Sony to encourage them towards saying yeah, I think that's why it was on and off so fast, epic are not daft..
So much though for all those Sony fanboys saying all games would require a sign in too Xbox live..
these guys know how to make mobile games.