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Couch Cast 15: Pre-E3 Discussions

Before the E3 shocks everyone, David Grifin and Connor Greeley go through the confirmed list of games to be unveiled. Additionally, Super Clash discusses Mortal Kombat X, recap a few reviews, and talk about Microsoft’s Kinect a bit.

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia1572d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog1571d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry9161571d ago (Edited 1571d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing691571d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming1571d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer791571d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember1571d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog1571d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop1571d ago (Edited 1571d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog1571d ago (Edited 1571d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop1571d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic1570d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop1570d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic1570d ago (Edited 1570d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal1571d ago (Edited 1571d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic1570d ago (Edited 1570d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf101571d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar1571d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf101571d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell1571d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf101571d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv721571d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming1571d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog1571d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming1571d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming1571d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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Storm231686d ago

Cool. Wanted to play Hell Let Loose and I always enjoy a good golf game. Mortal Kombat X should have been 11 IMO though.

NoFanBoy1686d ago

HLL seems a bit of a mess on console, I hope it improves but didn't have fun with the beta.

EvertonFC1686d ago

Same was looking fwd to the beta but it was not a great experience

1nsomniac1686d ago

Yea HLL is great on PC but is really hard to enjoy currently on console.

NeoGamer2321686d ago

Ya, I really wanted to play PGA 2K21 but didn't want to pay the price.

Eonjay1686d ago

Agreed. MKX should have been 11. I will play PGA though. Haven't played since Tiger Woods. This month feels lacking.

Ashunderfire861686d ago

I know right lol!!! Mortal Kombat X is free on PS5, but I understand PS4. Heck the PS4 version should be easy to get for just $20 or even less $10 dollars on ebay or selling stuff apps.

Profchaos1686d ago

You can play it right now open beta is live and free

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SegaSaturn6691686d ago

MKX was already in PS Plus Collection. This is the second time they've double dipped. Thank god the golf game lets u hit balls into the crowd.

BrainSyphoned1686d ago

At least twice this year they have double dipped into PS Now games as well.

Christopher1686d ago

Two separate services isn't double dipping. People do understand that, right? Subscribing to one or the other doesn't give you benefits to the other in any way.

jznrpg1686d ago

Fine with me I don’t sub to PS now

ocelot071686d ago

You don't know PS Collection is not available to PS4 only owners right? Only way they can claim this is by buying a PS5 or logging into a PS5 and claiming them.

So am pretty sure a fair few of the 100+ million PS4 owners are thankful.

Knushwood Butt1686d ago

Mortal Kombat X was never released in Japan so this is another one that won't be included in the lineup for Japan and will probably be swapped for some crap but I'll remain optimistic.

Silly gameAr1686d ago

I'm pretty sure MK has never been on plus. In the US anyway.

Not sure what PS Now has to do with PS Plus.

Profchaos1686d ago

Lee carvello: may I suggest a putter
You have chosen driver.

CorndogBurglar1685d ago

You win for your Simpsons reference.

BLow1686d ago

And like clockwork, you always have some complaining. Happy Gaming

Ozzy24071685d ago

Only PS5 owners get the PS plus collection which majority of playstation owners don't have

TheExecutioner1685d ago (Edited 1685d ago )

Not every one have ps+ collection

When u will stop thinking like a child

Knushwood Butt1685d ago

Update

Japan gets Castlevania Requiem instead of MKX

Not crap then!

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kneon1686d ago

3 games I won't play even when they are free

lipton1011680d ago

Really? They’re all legit good games

kneon1680d ago

I've never liked those kinds of fighting games so mortal combat is out. Golf? I don't know why such a game even exists. the last time I played a golf game was on the Apple ][. And finally hell let loose looks like just another in the endless stream of ww2 shooters, I already have enough of those in my backlog that I will probably never play either

SurgicalMenace1685d ago

You know when you actually buy your games you wouldn't be so ungrateful for the free ones. Just a thought.

LiViNgLeGaCY1685d ago

This month just didn't appeal to ME personally. If it's a good a good month for others, hey more power to them. And please, I'm willing to bet I've bought more Playstation games than you have. Probably shouldn't make assumptions about people without really knowing them, just a thought.

SurgicalMenace1685d ago

How much you willing to wager, sir? I've purchased just over 20 games this month alone. Have over 830 games in my digital library 250 on my shelf and that is only the PS4. We'll skip the PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP, VITA, and PS5 just to keep it fair. Who's counting though?🤷🏾‍♂️

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LiViNgLeGaCY1684d ago

Whatever you'd like. Since the PS1 days, my collection is in the thousands, just on Playstation alone. Pissing match aside, again, you shouldn't make comments in the future where you look stupid (ex. Telling someone you don't know that they don't buy games)

SurgicalMenace1684d ago

Or perhaps, since you have such the healthy collection, stop whining about the charity. If they don't give it, then buy it.

Pocahontas1680d ago

WhT do you do for a living to afford 20 games in one month

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RedDevils1685d ago

Shit games this month. Mortal Kombat X is already on PS+ Collection what the point of have it again. Throwing some indie and would be more happy.

Ozzy24071685d ago

Because the PS+Collection is only for PS5 owners which majority of playstation owners don't have

KyRo1686d ago (Edited 1686d ago )

Hell Let Loose looks great but it's not a casual game and a bit of a acquired taste. It's nice for people to dive in a d try it though. MKX is already on PS5 for free with the PS collection so that bad for PS5 owners and it was only two months ago everyone complained about a sports title being included as a game but yet they follow suit with another one 🤦🏻‍♂️

PS Plus started so well at the beginning of the year too.

SurgicalMenace1685d ago

I never thought I'd see a day when people complain about what they get for free. Hey, there is another great alternative to settling for free games, BUYING what you want.

How much do you think a market leader is going to be willing to cut into their own pockets? How many games do you actually purchase or do you just wait for them to hit plus?

We actually are grown enough to know that we have to pay for greatness over here. You have an option to go to MS if you'd like as well. Otherwise, add it to your library, say thank you, and move on. How old are we here?🤔

KyRo1685d ago (Edited 1685d ago )

I've been subbed to PS plus since the very day it started when all we'd get is PS1 and minis on PS3. PS Plus as a service was always about the games. Now they've made it a requirement for online play you mistakingly think these games are the bonus. They're not. We pay for access to the games via the subscription. They're not free so before running your mouth and giving it the big one, please educate yourself before calling people out.

SurgicalMenace1685d ago (Edited 1685d ago )

Well sir, I too have been a PS+ member since it's inception and own well over 3,000 games on PS3, 1200 of PS4, and close to every game available on PS5. I speak from a supporting standpoint and I'm strongly against people who do more talking with their mouths than their wallets.

If you've not invested into the best experience possible, then why should your opinion be acknowledged? Plus is 70 dollars a year that equates to about $6 dollars a month....what do you expect to get, a choice?🤣

The day that beggers become choosers is the day that gaming dies. How many of the new releases have you purchased? If the answer is none, be happy with what is given. When you're playing the latest, you have little concern for the hand outs. Just a thought, champ.🤣

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Kurt Russell1685d ago

Personally I am looking forward to Hell Let Loose. I don't think I would have dived in with a purchase for that one, but I am dead curious to play it... I am hoping it is just the kind of MP I have been hoping for since R6S went doolally.

KyRo1685d ago

Yeah it looks great for sure. I've watched a few people play it on PC and I'm interested to know it's transitioned to console.

outsider16241686d ago

Yesss!! Played HLL open beta and it was amazing. The immersiveness, the one bullet shot, you can't just go running around shooting like in CoD or Bf.

NoFanBoy1686d ago

The beta has a low framerate, lag, loads of pop in textures, flickering shadows etc. It felt horrible to control and aim. If they could improve it then there potential.

Majin-vegeta1686d ago

Thry are aware.They made a post yesterday

FPS_D3TH1685d ago

It’s not really optimized too well on pc yet either. Lots of flickering

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