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1 Year Later: Did Microsoft keep their E3 2013 Promises?

Let's look at what Microsoft told us at their 2013 briefing. After the somewhat unfocused reveal of the Xbox One in '13 May, Microsoft opted to focus on just games. And so they did—for both the 360 and the then-upcoming Xbox One, with a few select announcements thrown in for Xbox Live.

NewMonday4374d ago (Edited 4374d ago )

- they promised never to debundle Kinect, sooo

- the Black Tusk game was another false promise, turns out it was just a CGI trailer anyway and everybody was going"OMG the graphics!"

- they promised to be the biggest place for games, but many 3rd party games are ignoring the XB1, the result so far is that PS4 has over double the games, and in the future that trend will increase, games like the next DBZ and Samurai Warriors are not coming to the XB1.

ats19924374d ago (Edited 4374d ago )

In my opinion both companies haven't delivered on their promises yet.

You could say sony promised 1080p/60fps for all games on ps4 yet only one exclusive runs at that. Plus Sony said 1080p/60fps makes you a better gamer and everyone knows that was a load of crap. Sony also said watchdogs was going to be 1080p/60fps on the ps4 and that was a lie.

Sony has also been promising the last guardian for about 7 years now and where is that at?

NewMonday4374d ago

that stuff was mostly fan-talk, non of it E3 statements, other than the DC delay and something about mp3

Sony delivered on the big promises of self-publishing, no pay-wall for non gaming apps and F2P MP games and being the best place to play.

and remember if MS had their way we would be living in world of DRM/always-online/TV first but the competitiveness of Sony forced them to backtrack. MS would have had you for lunch, dinner, breakfast and brunch.

pompombrum4374d ago

I love how defensive some people get.. An Xbox article designed to discuss Microsoft's promises and you go turn it into a Sony rant. I think Xbox fans are more obsessed with Sony than the PS4 owners.

NewMonday4374d ago

@aiBreeze

chill out!

Was responding to ats1992, he brought up Sony not me

raWfodog4373d ago

@ NewMonday

I believe that aiBreeze WAS responding to ats1992. Read it again and try to not be so defensive.

NewMonday4373d ago (Edited 4373d ago )

@raWfodog

true!

sorry aiBreeze, was getting to many personal attacks lately and got twitchy.

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XiSasukeUchiha4374d ago

I have {No comment} towards this but now ever since Phil came on the scene he is saving Xbox from destruction.

TheSaint4374d ago

So before that Xbox was headed for destruction? If I could be bothered I'd go and search some topics and list the times you and your fanboy clan have said the opposite.

AngelicIceDiamond4374d ago

- the Black Tusk game was another false promise, turns out it was just a CGI trailer anyway and everybody was going"OMG the graphics!"

Yeah MS said it was CGI. It was mainly to introduce Black Tusk's studios.

- "they promised to be the biggest place for games, but many 3rd party games are ignoring the XB1,"

Maybe a good amount of indies are ditching out of X1 but not third party.

I don't see any evidence of that considering MS is said to announce a third party exclusive game at E3.

Dragon Ball Z and Samurai Warriors. Lol what number of ppl will be upset about those games not coming to X1? I'll give you a hint a very small minority. Lol your grasping there.

Kingdom Hearts 3 and Final XV are the ones that REALLY matter to X1.

NewMonday4374d ago

Games like Dynasty Warriors and DBZ spawn regular sequels because they each have a dedicated following, bigger than an unknown IP like Quantum Break the developers previous game AW barley passed 500k despite heavy marketing. And DW and DBZ are just examples of a growing trend

What matters to you and what matters to others are not always mutual, with the PS4 having double the games and more diversity a larger spectrum of consumer will be accommodated. The XB1 has a much smaller library and the games mostly cater to the same crowd.

dismiss all you want on these forums but in the real world the XBone is getting dismissed.

Zichu4374d ago

@NewMonday

Alan Wake has over 1 million sales O.o
It's pretty good for a brand new IP.

DW and DBZ on the other hand, well established and well known franchises, especially DBZ which spans across many types of media, barely made 500k on Ultimate Tenkaichi on it's main platform, which is the PS3.

DBZ hasn't been good since the original Budokai Trilogy on the PS2.

Just because a series releases a game often doesn't mean they are good, CoD does a yearly release, doesn't mean it's the best game ever. It's an average game with a massive following of dudebros.

Now, I'm not trying to downplay DBZ or DW, but they don't have the biggest following in the world.

Charybdis4374d ago (Edited 4374d ago )

@NewMonday
Unknown indie ip's or new triple AAA ip's are a good thing in my book. Why compare dbz and dynasty warriors with quantum break, ofcourse they have bigger followings as they are established franchises.

Agree: "What matters to you and what matters to others are not always mutual" This seems to be the case as personally I find the diversity of the more prominent games more diverse on the xb1 at least at this moment.

NewMonday4374d ago (Edited 4374d ago )

@Zichu

The DW and DBZ sales pass 1 million regularly on all platforms, that means the fan base is dedicated, and like I said they are just an example, one group of DW fans, another group of DBZ fans, another group of Souls fans, another group of indy fans another group of MMO fans...

This is diversity, CoD is the biggest franchise in gaming but just about 15% of console gamers buy it, what do you think the other 85% buy?

@Charybdis
The smaller XBone library is less likely to satisfy most gamers but it is still possible if uncommon if that wasn't the case the XB1 would have close to zero sales.

PrinceOfAllSaiyans4373d ago (Edited 4373d ago )

You're always full of shit. Xbox fanboys are not going to run out and buy Kingdom Hearts III or FF.

OT: They reversed all there policies not because of fans but because they were going to lose out on sells. I like my Xbox One its a decent console. I'm just ready for them to announce a lot of exclusives at E3.

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lelo4374d ago (Edited 4374d ago )

At this moment both the PS4 and X1 don't deserve all the fuss they are getting. Where the hell are the AAA games ?

thricetold4373d ago

THAT should be what all the fuss is about, instead we have MS fanboys still spouting delusional nonsense to justify their terrible purchase and sony fanboys hyping everything that they can(which is EXTREMELY annoying) to diss (do people still use diss?)the ms fanboys.

Don't know which is worse but I do know its gamers that lose out. All this fanboy crap is doing is giving these devs/pubs cover to continue to not deliver.

Gazondaily4374d ago

When did they promise anything with Black Tusk?

"- they promised to be the biggest place for games, but many 3rd party games are ignoring the XB1"

Eh?? Which third party dev is ignoring the Xbox One?

Charybdis4374d ago (Edited 4374d ago )

They didn't but what happened with the dark sorcer I thought it also was a tech demo.

Ghoul4373d ago

"They didn't but what happened with the dark sorcer I thought it also was a tech demo."

dark sorcerer was allways a tech demo (not a game demo) and nothing else, it was marketed and presented that way, dont try to make something out of nothing

callahan094373d ago

Lots of third party devs have announced or released games for PS4 without releasing on the Xbox One.

Tecmo-Koei: Dynasty Warriors & Nobunaga's Ambition games
Arc System Works: Guilty Gear Xrd
Blueside: Kingdom Under Fire 2
Sega: Yakuza
Milestone: MotoGP 2014
Frictional Games: Soma
Acquire: Akiba's Trip 2
D3: Earth Defense Force
Nambo-Bandai: Idolmaster, Gundam games
Grasshopper: Lily Bergamo

and others.

marlinfan104373d ago

@aibreeze

"i think xbox fans are more obsessed with sony than ps4 owners are"

thats funny because the first comment on this article (a xbox article) was from one of the biggest sony fanboys on this site.

trywizardo4373d ago (Edited 4373d ago )

debundling the kinect is a positive note
the clack tusk thing is true , but they're making a new gears of war so its a win too
i only see indie games are missing on X1 other wise it have same line up as PS4 and better exclusives so far ...

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AngelicIceDiamond4374d ago

MS held up to its E3 promise's but definitely not its policies.

jessupj4374d ago

...and the entire gaming industry breathes a sigh of relief.

AceBlazer134374d ago

Thank God they didn't keep their promises.

Baszs4374d ago

MS held up to most of them... Can't wait to see todays list of Sony's list of promises..

Volkama4374d ago

I don't actually think Sony promised much at E3. They scored a massive victory on physical media/DRM policies and price, and they rode that wave with a big smile on their faces for 2 or 3 months after that.

IrishSt0ner4374d ago

Yea they sure won on DRM policies. Ironically, now as a result I'm stuck with paying full retail for digital games which I can never share or sell due solely on the reversal of these policies. Back to the good old days of breaking discs and disc drives.

Baszs4374d ago

A victory you say! sure i agree on that..
It's not like they actually had the DRM plan in place
and changed it at the last second for public praise.
they even changed their terms of agreement about reselling games etc.

for some information about that:
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

So in the end, both console changed their minds..
only sony got away with before any harm was done.

They probably had a advantage of having the pressconfrence after MS.

Volkama4373d ago

@Baszs yes, public praise is a victory regardless of what was going on behind the scenes.

urwifeminder4374d ago

Not sure can not remember what they promised any hoo looking forward E3 this year .

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio25d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing24d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9224d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit24d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing24d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9224d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay26d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn227d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn226d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown27d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay26d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay26d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac26d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger27d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300027d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde27d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde26d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7528d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_26d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.