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Fracture dev: "Wii does not have the processing power"

SUP3R|6565d ago |News|35|

Even though the Wii has seen a huge amount of success and currently leads the console war by a large margin, its hardware limitations do mean that it often misses out on the graphically rich games found on Xbox 360 and PS3.

Speaking to VideoGamer.com in London last week, LucasArts assistant producer Jeffrey Gullett confirmed what we already kind of knew about the reason behind no Fracture on Wii.

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Rikitatsu6565d ago

Apparently they didn't see how awesome Madworld looks ... When there is technical limitations, Good Developers make up for that with Art and Innovation ... and thats Madworld ;)

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MK_Red6565d ago (Edited 6565d ago )

I'm also a fan of MadWorld but this is different. Fracture's gameplay is based on advanced terran physics that Wii simply can't handel.
It's just like The Force Unleashed and Battlefield Bad Company. The Wii version of TFU doesn't have Euphoria (As seen in GTA4) or DMM that are the main attractions of the game. And Battlefield BC is not on Wii because a fully destructable enviroment like BC simply wasn't possible on Wii.

The thing is that Wii is a good machine and has some great games but when it comes to processing power, Wii is simply behind PS3 and 360.

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Baka-akaB6565d ago

You dont even know how madworld actually play . it might as well be an artsy yet crappy project (wich i glady doubt) .
You're also comparing apples and tomatoes ...
obviously the main idea behind fracture , aka "terraforming" needs raw power ...

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solidt126565d ago

Mad World looks good, but it is a black and white game without all the crazy physics that are going on in Fracture.

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SolidSnake936565d ago

There are some limitations that developers cannot make up for. I don't think that the Wii could even run a port of Fracture.

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ChickeyCantor6565d ago

" I don't think that the Wii could even run a port of Fracture."
When you port something you break it down or polish it up to make it work on the PLATFORM.

If there was a Port they would have programmed it differently.

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Rute6565d ago

Wii definitely couldn't handle Fracture with the level of graphics seen on PS3 and X360, but to say whether Wii is or isn't able to handle the main aspects of the physics of Fracture, would require extensive knowledge in programming, especially optimization. Even Gamecube had games with terraforming, like Doshin The Giant.

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Rute6565d ago

I just realised that the term terraforming is not properly used, because it means "the hypothetical process of deliberately modifying its atmosphere, temperature, surface topography or ecology to be similar to those of Earth in order to make it habitable by humans" (Wikipedia) Is that the reason why I got one disagree?

Doshin The Giant (GC) or Fracture do not include terraforming, but they both include the feature of deforming terrain. Does someone disagree with me on those facts?

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MK_Red6565d ago

Rute I understand what you mean but even that's not possible. The Force Unleashed team did try but they couldn't run Euphoria and DMM on Wii with even sub-PS2 graphics because Wii simply can't handle that. Same goes for Fracture.

Wii simply can't have some features. So far, PS3 and 360's have mainly been used only for graphics but games like Fracture and TFU are ones that are simply impossible on Wii (The Wii version of TFU lacks both engines and is a rather different game that a different team has made). Same goes for Battlefield Bad Company, there are some gameplay features that Wii can't do, no matter in what level of graphics.

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Rute6565d ago

Well, Wii is capable of terrain deforming. Doshin The Giant, as I mentioned, is a Gamecube game and features terrain deforming. Are there some features which are essential concerning the physical part of Fracture that have NOT been realized in some form in GC or Wii games?

What I meant in the earlier posts was that while it is a fact that Wii couldn't handle the same physics engine as the PS3/360 versions of Fracture, it doesn't necessarily mean that similar physical effects in a hypotethical Wii version of the game couldn't be portrayed using "Wii friendly" coding. There are lots of Wii games with advanced physics like the recent hit Boom Blox.

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MK_Red6565d ago

I see Rute. I know understand better. You're saying that Fracture's engine may not work on Wii but a different "Wii friendly" engine could cause such effects, right?

Well, that's possible to some to some degree but from what I've seen, I still think Fracture's effects would be impossible to do on Wii.
As for Boom Blox, as much as I love it, the physics engine it uses is simple Havoc and not the new version. The latest Havoc physics engine is exclusive to PS3 and 360 (Boom Blox uses an old version that the Wii version of Force Unleashed is gonna use as well).

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BrotherNick6564d ago

If that game could do it on the gc, Fracture could if they made it from the ground up. But there's little to no market for it, so it's uneconomical. From a business standpoint it is right, sucks for us wii fans though.

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nightmareluffy16565d ago

i have wii and i know what it can and cannot do .
i have fully excepted this also can they downgrade a game for the wii?

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GFahim6565d ago

cant they atleast go with a different art direction?

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Baka-akaB6565d ago (Edited 6565d ago )

What's the point of the game then ?

And what's the point of moaning about crappy wii ports like Farcry then ?

You cant expect a dev to have that kind of ambitious project needing much horsepower , and then ask him to just do a cartoony or downgraded less ambitious version of it .

Things like that are part of the reason why 3rd party wii kinda sucks . It its just a downgrade and doesnt benefits from the wii , there is no point .

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ape0076565d ago

good are good games,graphics just push(cod4,bioshock,uncharted)
or rare cases that graphics actually make games worse(gta4)

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tweaker6565d ago

Obviously.

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leeger6565d ago

of course it doesn't have enough power if we compare it to the 360 and PS3 but the Wii is still kicking the @ss of those two. hahaha

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iamtehpwn6565d ago

Nintendo knew very well games like this wouldn't be on the Wii when they made the specs as they did. And You, the consumer, should know that when buying the console. Nintendo did a blue ocean strategy and decidedly avoided the typical style of Next gen.

However, to me, that makes Wii a better Second Console. If you only two consoles, it'd be much better to go Ps3/wii or 360/Wii, I believe. Between the two, there's a much bigger contrast.

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Strife Lives6565d ago

You know,the only ever super sonic passanger aircraft.thats what the wii reminds me off. Its just holding technology up.both the ps3 and 360 will have motion controling games of some sort before the end of this gen,but thats the wii's trump card. Next gen the ps4 and xbox 3 will have that as standard,well maybe.either way,the 'gimick' games for 'casual gamers' will be over.the only reason I dnt own a wii,is cuz it gets a bit boring.think about it,you play it 20,30min.then.wow.thats fun.and thats it.I dnt consider it worthwhile financially.my psp provides me with that short bursts of fun.if u want to do something physical,then get off ur ass and do it.thngs like wii fit are only taking us 2 gens bk. The playstation 1 days.where developers just made pretty yet 1 dimensional games in thought.

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Voiceofreason6565d ago

Had mine for 13 months. Still play it. Just because you tried 1 game and didnt like it doesnt mean the rest of us should feel the same.

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BrotherNick6564d ago

Thanks for your text message of a comment. -_-;

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kevanio096565d ago

urm...how is this news? He is just stating a fact...

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leeger6565d ago

so you want your news to be non-factual?

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snappywave6565d ago

Why need processing power when it can run games like Mario Galaxy? COME ON!

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phantomexe6565d ago

Its funny that you say that MKRed because high voltage quantum 3 engine says the wii can do Euphoria and all the other stuff,but i supose we have to wait to see there game.I think maybe this is about the people behind fracture just not wanting to but forth the effort and the time.

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GFahim6565d ago

those developers are just lazy thats why they cant be bothered to push the wii to its limits!

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LinuxGuru6565d ago

Fact is, the Wii just does not have the processing grunt to perform the intense calculations a complex deformation and physics engine would require.

So what if there was terraforming on the gamecube...it wasn't to the extent of fracture.

What I said up there is EXACTLY why Wii owners are getting the gimped version of Indiana Jones and Star Wars: The Force Unleashed. The Wii cannot handle the processing of these two technologies in real time, much less in tandem with one another (which is difficult to do, even WITH the Cell, or the 360's tri-core):

http://www.pixeluxentertain...

http://www.naturalmotion.co...

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ChickeyCantor6565d ago

But this does not mean the games will suck =).
A game is designed with a DESIGN in mind, Heavy systems like physics arent always needed in games to make it fun...so i really dont get all the fuss about this.

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M_Prime6565d ago

Well we all know the ps3 gets the gimped motion controls, and you know its true. (lair) but the wii is not a graphical powerhouse. Its like an economy car, the 360 and ps3 are like bmw and stuff. More people have these cars and the work just fine, but they sure as hell couldn't take it in a race. So its all about budget and what your looking for, and many people are looking for that economy car, thats for sure, with these gas prices.

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fm816565d ago

who gives a damn if it dont av processing power..if its leading da console market it doesnt matter..low processing power console tend to win consoles wars..ps1 beat n64, ps2 beat xbox, nintendo ds beat psp, wii beating ps3 n xbox 360..so low process is good for da wii..also i think only yanks ar da ones buying games for graphics..bloody yanks..

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phantomexe6565d ago

I have a 360 and ps3 and id rather have the force unleshed for my wii.Dude the wii ver has online and the play going be hot, you must not be a starwars fan.I think you need to read up some more on the wii ver its no port and it looks good.imo

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phantomexe6565d ago

gimped starwars.... i can't get past you saying that.Your so full of it man you need to research better before you buy damn...do you own cooking mama?

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eddierivera6565d ago

thats funny cause I own all three consoles and honestly, the Wii's online is worse than having a dial up connection to your 360 or ps3. I tried playing dragon ball T3 on it and it lag so bad, and I have a 15mbps internet connection. I sorta regret buying a Wii, after playing Mario, zelda, and dragon quest, I got really depressed about how bad games on the nintendo are. We should have gotten a dvd player out of it at least, worst $270 I ever spent on a console.

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M_Prime6565d ago

then sell it on EBAY and get ur money back if its the worst 270 you ever spent. geez if you don't like it then don't use it.. nobody put a gun to your head and said you have to have it and keep it

and the wii online is coming along.. you played crap games and thats what you get.. crap gameplay online..

that game does not have servers.. its a direct connect, you may have a great connection but the 10 year old kid on the other end probably is downloading porn as he plays so he is lagging so bad.

SMASH BROS plays great online if there are no laggers in the room.. but 1 person lags and then the game goes to crap.. and fighting games online all lag.. its just the nature of the game.. but then you have a game like MARIO STRIKERS where the online is great.. and leaderboards and you have a system that matches people to your skill level. then you have a game like MARIO KART WII which is just AWSOME online.. (for a wii game) with 12 players and 0 lag, unless your the one lagging of course. also with SMASH BROS i played using friend codes (which blow but we know that) and i had me and my bro playing against a buddy and his friend from New York and i'm In Toronto.. not exactly very far but NO LAG again.. we had about 2 hours worth of brawling..

I have PES2008wii and its awsome.. but not too many people online.. though when i connect to friends there is no lag.. its direct connect.. with 360 you PAY TO PLAY so you USUALLY get servers so if the server is good your good.. otherwise not so much..

you played 1 game and had 1 bad experience.. BOO HOO.. i've been playing online since 56K days on PC my friend.. (ur not really my friend.. its just a saying) so either shut up and enjoy your console or sell it or just don't play online..

BUT REMEMBER.. NOBODY MADE YOU BUY IT..

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Jurassic: The Hunted, Chaotic: Shadow Warriors & Fracture running on the Xenia Xbox 360 emulator

john2|2714d ago |Video|0|

YouTube’s ‘John GodGames Emus’ has shared some video showing Jurassic: The Hunted, Chaotic: Shadow Warriors and Fracture running in the latest DirectX 12 version of the best Xbox 360 emulator, Xenia. These games came only on consoles and the first two titles appear to be playable in Xenia.

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Last Chance to Play: Fracture

DimensionalSound|4084d ago |Opinion piece|0|

"ZL: The reception was less than underwhelming. Fracture is one of those games that has already been forgotten; “terrain deformation” failed to impress gamers, the struggle between the Pacificans and the Alliance (though I’m not sure who they’re aligned with) inspired no one, everyone hated the main character and the online servers are host to nothing more than tumbleweeds."

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Games in a time of climate change

Magnagamer222|4307d ago |Interview|2|

We're well into the first week of August, and the summer's hottest days could be just ahead. There's still a debate being waged over climate change policies proposed to help curb its effects, but in some video game that debate is over and the effects of climate change lead to a bleak future. We speak to Dr. David Robinson, New Jersey State Climatologist and Professor in the Department of Geography at Rutgers University, to find out if these video games' vision of a post climate change future holds more fact or fiction.

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gamerlive4307d ago

This is a great story.

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thorstein4307d ago

Wow. This is an incredible read.

I will be voting up the article and the site. Thank you for submitting this!

Well written, thought provoking and intelligent. Great job to Steven Wong.

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