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Experienced Points The Great Framerate Debate

So the controversy over the past couple of months is that the PS4 outperforms the Xbox One in terms of frame rate and resolution. No, actually the Xbox One has a performance advantage. No, actually it doesn't, but it doesn't matter. But that hasn't stopped people from compiling massive lists comparing the performance of the two platforms.

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mochachino4374d ago (Edited 4374d ago )

If there is a debate it's just MS and MS fansites obfuscating the truth of PS4s power advantage. Better for MS to cast doubt and have potential purchasers uninformed than have everyone unanimously agree that PS4 always has better performance.

When current power is conceded the discussion moves to cloud and direct x12. Thankfully the majority of gamers purchasing news consoles see through the hokum judging by the sales differential. Or the sales could just be PS4s larger variety of quality big budget and small budget games.

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XiSasukeUchiha4374d ago

Fansites debate would help but framerate debate is new must-debate topic, 30fps is great for movie-like games, and/or great graphics 60fps is great for everything else their solved, phew not a hard thing to debate about it.

kinisking4374d ago

I really hate when people say frame rate and resolution. It has only been framerate or resolution. the only game the ps4 outperformed the x1 in frame rate was tomb raider. But they were the SAME resolution. For every game south different resolution x1 had the more consistent framerate

Hyper_Tension1404374d ago

@kinisking

Aside from call of duty ghost, every multiplatform game has had better or equal framerate on ps4 even with higher resolution.

Where the hell did you get that information?

gamerfan09094374d ago

The average consumer could care less about the specs of a console. Most have zero clue about resolution and what framerate even is and what purpose it even serves. So saying that's a factor is ludicrous. The PS4 is outselling the Xbox One for 3 reasons so far in the last 6 months. It's cheaper, Marketed better, and launched in more countries. By 2016 and beyond the focus will switch to what it always switches to. Exclusives, Content, how many relatives/friends have the platform, who has DLC, and public perception.

Besides all of that these multiplatform games are not THAT much better than each other. The PS4 versions of these games might have a sharper image or have less jaggies, but to the naked eye the difference is not noticeable unless you inspect to find flaws in each image. The only way you're going to see a huge enough difference to where joe blow off the street starts seeing graphics disparities is when the exclusives come out and you see what each console is capable of when the dev uses every ounce of the system. We haven't seen that yet. In the end it will come down to what it always comes down to. SYSTEM SELLER GAMES.

Eonjay4374d ago (Edited 4374d ago )

The biggest system seller game for Xbox will be Halo 5. Outside of that it will continue to be multiplats. I think people are convinced that more power can lead to more immersive experiences that you can't get on another system. This has been yet to bee seen. ND did this with TLOU. Can they replicate this on the PS4? And even if they can, is it possible for 343 to do something similar with the Xbox?

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Top Racers Need Top Gear – Introducing the Forza Horizon 6 Limited Edition Controller and Headset

Omar writes: "With the Horizon Festival coming to breathtaking Japan, you’ll need the essential gear to prove you’ve got what it takes to become a Horizon Legend as you cruise, drift and explore an open world full of spectacular driving experiences. That’s why we’re happy to announce the newest Limited Edition Xbox Wireless Controller and Wireless Headset collection, featuring inspired designs from Forza Horizon 6. The bright cyan and lime colorways celebrate the Horizon Festival’s recognition of iconic cars and hit music, with special features that are sure to impress any collector."

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Killer2020UK27d ago

Oh my, that is one gaudy design

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EasySMX D05 review

You can get Hall effect controllers slightly cheaper, but you'd struggle to find as feature-rich a package without some heavy, heavy sales.

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"It's Just So Lame" - RTGI Modder Thinks DLSS 5 Is Impressive But Shares AI Slop Sentiment

Pascal Gilcher calls DLSS 5 impressive but shares the "AI slop" sentiment, explaining the likely tech behind it and why he dislikes it.

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CrimsonWing6953d ago

I fail to see how this is AI shhhhlllloooop. Looking at the different games they showed, this has made many of them look far better.

isarai_lee53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

It's AI slop because it ignores the artists intent and changes the details ESPECIALLY when it comes to character faces. The scariest part of it is introducing it as the next stage of DLSS, a feature where the current iteration already has controversy surrounding it and for quite a lot of games cannot be fully disabled. So reasonably the precident is already set for what path this could take, and it's not good

blacktiger53d ago

In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost and so on. Many of the lighting deletes shadow, including shadow on the face like eyes even chin.

Chard53d ago

Why stop at art when it comes to human input - why not just have AI play the game for us, remove human input altogether

theshizer53d ago

If you don’t like it, just don’t enable it. Personally I think it looks great from the videos I have seen.

isarai_lee53d ago

And what about when you can't? Cause there's plenty of games where you cannot fully disable dlss already, i mean we're well into an era where it's a major crutch for developers to cover up their cut corners, why would this be any different?

blacktiger53d ago

You are playing with people's money and allow Nvidia to scam you.

In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost. This is all lie to raise the cost of the graphic card.

Andrew33653d ago

Making characters look more realistic not ok because we want the developer to decide on how the game was intended to look. - Internet

Change entire game through mods thus changing how the developers intended the game to be is ok. - Internet

isarai_lee53d ago

Something consumers can do to a product after they have purchased it, entirely optional and can always be undone with a fresh install

VS

The leading gaming hardware manufacturer making this the next iteration of the main AA/Upscaling technique that is heavily relied upod by modern devs and is not optional in most games.

Not at all the same but nice try

jwillj2k453d ago

At the moment you need 2 5090’s just to get an image on the screen so this is all vaporware until proven otherwise.

Andrew33653d ago

The good news is you can just not use it as well.

Christopher53d ago

It's all about choice in the end. But, I would say that calling it 'more realistic' is quite a stretch. It looks like AI art, and that's rarely realistic.

Urrakia3453d ago

All the comments I see are reminding me of how we got to the current state of gaming when microtransactions were first introduced: "It's completely optional guys, we promise! If you don't like it just don't buy it!"

I think we all know how that ended up.

Popsicle53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

I had the same exact thought the first time this was brought up in a separate article about a week ago. Took me straight back to the conversations surrounding “horse armor.” Just don’t buy it they said. Years later, many IPs I previously enjoyed are so infected with monetization schemes that I don’t even consider purchasing them anymore.

DLSS 5 and the like are the same thing wrapped in a different package. History rhymes but many of us never learn from it.

blacktiger53d ago

Biggest Scam. Overrides lighting and shadow. So why keep Ray tracing? It's all a scam to raise graphic card. We now see Nvidia with Microsoft downturn anything against them. Sony is next!