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Microsoft has only itself to blame for Kinect's failure

When Microsoft conducts a postmortem on Kinect, it will be easy to blame the sensor’s failure on the fact that it increased the Xbox One’s price by $100. While that may be partially true, one of the biggest problems boils down to Microsoft not giving users a reason to want Kinect.

Dwalls11714384d ago

Kinect is not a failure, it just should have never been forced. Kinect is actually a very good piece of tech but you shouldn't force people to but this along with their console.. change is a scary thing sometimes.

What's ironic is the ps4 camera is one of the hottest tech items globally since its release selling extremely well.

Baka-akaB4383d ago (Edited 4383d ago )

There were no real gaming changes , that's part of the issue . Your regular games mostly dont and can't use it , even when bundled and fused by force ...

And the casual games dedicated to it are nothing unseen already on Wii , albeit prettier and sometimes better done .

You can't just sell the promise of change and ultimately have nothing to show for it , not expect some sort of backlash or a few plans backfiring

Godmars2904383d ago

But that is all MS did. Talked about potential while not really showing it.

CJDUNCAN4383d ago

I agree with you Dwalls, Kinect is not a failure. However, it's really not an intricate piece to gaming yet. MS needs to develop a powerhouse AAA game that exclusively uses the Kinect. It can't be a casual game like Kinect Sports etc., it has to be a big time experience.

Of course they will lose money on it with the new SKU releasing without a Kinect, but they have to be willing to lose money in hopes of reestablishing the need for Kinect.

I didn't have the first Kinect but with my X1, I find it a cool piece of tech but it's been useless to me besides auto-sign-in.

Bigpappy4383d ago

I agree with the writer somewhat. If they are going to include the Kinect in the bundle, they should have had a health supply of games that support it right out the gate. But the stuff they released so far was not as good as what was on the first Kinect.

Jdoki4383d ago

I've never owned a Kinect device - but I could see the potential for interesting use.

MS only have themselves to blame for not exploiting Kinect and making it a must-have device... Whether it was for controlling the console / TV, or in games - they never gave (most) people a reason to own it or like it.

Spotie4383d ago

Folks have been waiting since last gen for compelling uses of Kinect in gaming, but while Microsoft has CLAIMED such a thing, they have yet to SHOW it.

So yes, it's entirely Microsoft's fault. Not the fault of consumers who didn't understand the message. Not gamers afraid of change.

Jdoki4383d ago

Agree. This seems like MS's strategy a lot of the time...

They could stop a lot of the rumour and BS if they showed stuff (like secret sauce, power of the clouds, Kinect vital to XB1 etc), rather than keep talking about all this mythical stuff!

mrpsychoticstalker4383d ago

Why people confuses failure with choice? Makes no sense.

Jdoki4383d ago

Because MS stated repeatedly that the XB1 and Kinect were intrinsically linked.

It failed because removing it removes a unique selling point, and going back on their talk of how important Kinect was to XB1. In fact they even said at one point that the XB1 would not function without Kinect.

Choice is good for consumers, but if you are one of the people who choose Kinect are you honestly going to get the same level of support for that device as if it was mandatory?

What incentive do devs have to support Kinect now that it's optional? Zero! So yeah, great choice IF you choose the Kinect-less model.

Gohadouken4383d ago

We all know it only became a choice this time around , when it failed

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio20d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing20d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9220d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit20d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing20d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9220d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay22d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn223d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn222d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown22d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay22d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay22d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac22d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger22d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300022d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde22d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde22d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7524d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_21d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.