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Microsoft offering Xbox Live Gold refunds

For those gamers no longer interested in the Xbox Live Gold subscription, Microsoft has your back covered by offering a refund for any unused days or months.

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LordMaim4395d ago (Edited 4395d ago )

I'd rather have the ability to put it on hold while on vacation.

I mean, how many people are going to take advantage of the ability to cancel completely? Suddenly, they want to stop playing online? Why not instead give you an online setting to put it on hold so you don't lose time, particularly now that the Games with Gold offerings are going to be tied to your subscription.

kneon4395d ago

Well there must be some people not interested in online gaming who were only paying for gold to get access to the other features hidden behind the paywall. Now they don't need gold for that.

But I expect there are very few people that fall into this category.

TheHybrid4395d ago

Of you go on vacation for an entire month, you would save $5 by putting your account on hold....

Tell me again why ppl who can afford month long vacations are worrying about losing $5?

Smh....

LordMaim4395d ago (Edited 4395d ago )

@kneon: I guess that's true, I hadn't thought of that. Personally it was always for the online gaming, but for a more casual user who did only use Netflix or a similar service that isn't behind a paywall anymore, I suppose that would be a consideration.

Still, vacation hold would be sweet.

@TheHybrid: Money is money. I had to travel for work for seven weeks, and couldn't take my systems with me. That's lost time for me. Not everyone is so cavalier about losing money as you claim to be.

falviousuk4395d ago

Oh for pete's sake.

MS since they have a new head have been making some bold new decisions about the xbox. And most of them if not all them have been extremeley positive, although I would have still preferred a proper online console sto do away with the need to change discs when playing games.

But here is another new idea MS are putting out there, and here we have complaints that it still isnt good enough.

I guess thats just N4G for you, total attack on anything MS does an total praise for anything Sony does, regardless of what that is.

Ms does something, they are copying, Sony does something they are adding features.

On and on the merry go round goes.

shinrock4395d ago

U can put a pause on yor account.just have to call m$

torchic4395d ago

this is actually a great idea, a lot of people in school/university would love this.

I can go 3 months without playing because I'm so overwhelmed by coursework

kreate4395d ago

if we can put a vacation hold.
unless its done in such a manner.
ppl will abuse it.

I can stretch my 1 yr gold to 10 years gold.

Why o why4395d ago

New guy at the helm is showing his worth tenfold. @falvious.......not sure whos complaining for you to call for pete, geezer. Ideas and complaints are what improve these companies. Lets not get too pissed, the 'haters' speak up and help these companies fix up

Boody-Bandit4395d ago (Edited 4395d ago )

A week after the XBOX ONE launched my XBL account expired. I wasn't using it at the time to go online and I came on here and said I thought everything being behind a paywall so I can at least use the browser or youtube was ludicrous. To which I was crucified by MS only consumers. Can you guys now pull out the stakes? Some criticism is warranted and is the only way to get change.

You can't just play along to get along or we will all pay the price. It's those that are willing to do anything to enjoy their hobby as to why we now pay to play online and pay to have our games piecemeal to us. I will pay for XBL and PSN but I still rarely ever pay for DLC and purchase no micro transactions.

MS still has a ways to go IMO to entice consumers into that they are for their consumers. They should've known what their consumers wanted from jump instead of doing all these 180's that should've never been in place and claiming they are now listening to us. No they weren't.

They still have a ways to go if they are going to be competitive and un tarnish their current image with a lot of consumers / gamers I know. A lot of my friends still have yet to purchase an XBOX ONE that were once MS mostly gamers the previous 2 generations. A couple of them are now jumping off the fence June 9th (Kinectless SKU) but the rest of them are waiting on E3 to see MS's vision for the future before they decide.

UnHoly_One4395d ago

I've had Xbox Live Gold since day one on the Original Xbox (before it was even called "gold"). It'll be 12 years this November 15th.

During that time I've had vacations, or gone long periods of time without playing multiplayer at all.

I never once though of putting my Gold account on "hold" since I wasn't using it. It's so ridiculously cheap I forget I'm even paying for it. The monthly cost is less than a pack of cigarettes or a lunch.

I can't fathom having a PS or an Xbox and not being subscribed to both PS+ and Gold.

veegeeeffex4395d ago

The same reason that you can only buy MMO game time in chunks of months, not days or hours: It's much more profitable because people will never use all of their time they purchase and it makes it harder for them to discern the true value of what they're buying.

troylazlow4395d ago

How long do you vacation? it's $5 a month, less if you buy it when it's on sale.

LexHazard794395d ago

@falviosuk,

Bub for well said.
MS= Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Highlife4394d ago

This is good news for people going from 360 to ps4. Now you don't have to pay for live and can have a Netflix box somewhere else and still play your single player games.

QuickdrawMcgraw4394d ago

Maybe people who have cable can put that on hold when on vacation lol

mikeslemonade4394d ago

Just has highlife said^

Great deal for people jumping ship from X1 and 360 to PS4. Believe it or not I was playing lots of 360 prior to PS4 and I believe I has several months of gold when I sold the 360. Microsoft has a decent gold service but it's overpriced and that's a fact.

oof464394d ago

I wonder if people with MMO subscriptions can also put it on hold.

UltimateMaster4394d ago

Was this necessary?
Ok, good move I guess.

LogicStomper4394d ago (Edited 4394d ago )

@mikeslemonade

"Great deal for people jumping ship from X1 and 360 to PS4."

I Agree with that. It could save you anywhere between $1 and however much it costs for XBL in your country.

" Microsoft has a decent gold service but it's overpriced and that's a fact."

This 'fact' is highly debatable. In fact, here's steps in determining value.

How do you determine whether a service's value? Well, it depends on the quality of service. How do you determine the quality of experience in regards to these gaming services? By experience. Is your experience in the quality of service universal? No. Your experience can be different to others.

So to go backwards with this chain, your experience is yours. So the quality of service determined by you is specific to you. Based off YOUR experience with the quality of service, you determine it's value relative to your experience.

"you determine its value relative to your experience."

Let that quote sink in for a moment.

So now the question is, how do you know its universal worth with only your experience to go off?

thricetold4394d ago

@LM

Any gamer stressing over $5 a month should stop gaming period. There are cheaper hobbies out there.

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Why o why4394d ago

Bloody el sak

That was like 2494 days ago. . 6 years for those who need a calculator.

Do you not think a guy could purchase a 360 during that time period. . What a fail ass comment

pheature4394d ago

so i can pause my subscription everytime i go to bed.

ridiculous

XB1_PS44394d ago

Putting your account on hold is the single most impossible to implement feature that I've ever heard of. Everybody and there mom would be putting their account on hold as soon they're done playing for the day. I would probably spend 5 a year. Terrible idea, F-.

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raWfodog4395d ago

Definitely a move in the right direction to remove the basic applications from behind the firewall. I believe that and having a kinect-less SKU will sway a lot of people who were on the fence.

truefan14395d ago (Edited 4395d ago )

If you own an XB1, you most likely bought it for online gaming, I think very few if anyone will sell their xbl gold account. I still have like 18 months left doing the same thing every year, buy 1 year account for $30 bucks during black friday online deals.

This is like offering people some of your food to be nice, but you really don't want to give them any.

SoulSercher6204395d ago (Edited 4395d ago )

"If you own an XB1, you most likely bought it for online gaming"

Or to do anything in fact. Because we both know it would almost be a brick without it.

And we also know XBL online gaming is no better than PSN either because there is nothing to show what makes it so much better XBL owners claim it is to be.

rainslacker4394d ago (Edited 4394d ago )

I considered buying a 360 for my dad a couple years ago for the purpose of watching Netflix and stuff like that. The Live pay wall made me not bother since he's on a limited income, and doubt he'd want to spend the money for Live. He most definitely wouldn't be playing MP on it.

I do find the X1 a better media machine than the 360, so I may get him one this year for christmas.

Otherwise, I think this is a good move on MS part. It probably won't affect a huge percentage of their user base, but it's good for the ones that do have it only for access to it's media features.

On top of that, I think the removal of the pay wall, is geared towards their ambitions in the media market. Nowadays it's hard to sell an all in one device when there are so many out there that don't have a monthly/annual fee.

Otherwise, I don't really see any reason why anyone would criticize this move. It's good for the consumer, and I'm sure there are people that will benefit from it.

Gazondaily4395d ago

Yeah this is a pretty neat feature. Nice one

xtremeimport4394d ago

I like the ad on my 360/xb1.

"You asked, we listened"

After 8 years and because the xb1 is selling like crap. (compared to its competition).

They listened to their profit margin shrinking.

TheSaint4394d ago

Holy crap, MS are really raising their game, don't say this often but kudos MS.

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OtakuDome4395d ago

Microsoft is kicking some serious ass at the moment.

marlinfan104395d ago

lets see how the fanboys twist this into something negative

KonsoruMasuta4395d ago (Edited 4395d ago )

The only one saying something negative here is you.

Doge4395d ago

Who the hell cares about fanboys? Just ignore them.

Eonjay4395d ago

Looks like you beat them to it amirite?

Anyway, this is in response to the concept that you no longer need Live Sub for certain services. Therefore, if you no longer need live and you don't play multiplayer games, go get a refund.

InTheLab4395d ago

As bad as this statement is, it is sadly true. A lot of people simply refuse to buy into the fact that Phil is changing Xbox for the better.

Hell, I was one of them until yesterday. While you can't really point to a single thing that should sway anyone back to Xbox, a combination of small positive steps should win back any true gamer or at the very least, leave fanboys quiet for a day....

MasterCornholio4395d ago

Don wanted to destroy Xbox and Phil wants to save it.

I honestly dont see anything wrong with what Phil is doing but it stinks that he has to clean up Dons mess.

MasterCornholio4395d ago

Are you trying to provoke a fight?

falviousuk4395d ago

@daniel2115

too late mate, they allready have, see above re wanting to turn off sub for holidays now.

Give up on N4G ever giving anything positive to anything MS does

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kewlkat0074395d ago (Edited 4395d ago )

Noice..for whoever that may be.

Single-player and Media streaming only gamer...

Yes, I guess they do exist apparently.

InTheLab4395d ago

You do have a point but some people get deployed or go away to school. Some people get hurt or lose their console. This is a good idea....

Also, your avatar is from one of the best wrestling games ever made.

kewlkat0074395d ago

I agree, first wrestling game I ever played.

aerisbueller4394d ago (Edited 4394d ago )

Well, whenever stupid gamers (sorry guys it's true) defended XBox having Netflix behind a paywall by saying 'Durrr, but I pay for Live anyways cuz games', my response was usually 'It's the principle of the thing. How can you support a company that's trying to screw you so badly at every single turn?'

Now this policy change is similar, but in a good way. It's the principle of it. The fact they'd bother with this move means they've decided the consumer matters enough that they refuse to alienate even that small subset.

The only thing I wish they'd do differently is stop covering for the old guys. Instead of saying 'we're integrating feedback, and it's time to offer choice' and other nonsense, I wish they'd just come out and say "Sorry everyone, the bosses who just left MS were a-holes, we're fixing everything now, give us some time.

SG1_dapunisherX4395d ago

how been damm can't wait to play halo assault

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot27d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle27d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7727d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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LucasArts gave Jango Fett his own game in 2002, and it pulled Star Wars into a much dirtier, rougher, and more interesting corner of the galaxy.

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Relientk7731d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.

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Outside_ofthe_Box32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300032d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7232d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit31d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania32d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit31d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0731d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr32d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box32d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr31d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9532d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7232d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--32d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7231d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket32d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm31d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde31d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9231d ago (Edited 31d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_32d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted32d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit31d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9231d ago (Edited 31d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT32d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers32d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14932d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0731d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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