" for months you sony fanboys would use vgchartz as a reference saying look at those numbers and you guys would keep saying over and over ps4 is the future and the future is ps4. Don't try to claim you guys didn't."

As far as i recall, it was literally only one person saying that line. I've noticed that around here, the many seem to get judged by the actions of the few, or in this case, the individual. This guy/gal - http://n4g.com/user/home/ha...

On topic: VGC is garbage, i don't care what console comes top, i mark the site down every chance i get. All it does is spew BS rumoured numbers and cause gamers to argue with each other. They need to go.

According to fakechartz, Titanfall was the system seller MS had hoped for, meanwhile MS announces a production slow down. Also, according to fakechartz PS4 seems to be in free-fall every week, but this isn't even close to being consistent with the official numbers. When will it be time to ban fakechartz from n4g?

Currently there is a poll on the VGC forums on what people think April NPD numbers are. 99% of people think that PS4 won April. There is also a poll on Gaf and 99% of people think the PS4 won April. Now why do you think that is? I use 99% percent but I've not actually seen a single person predict that the XB1 will will April yet. I could have missed one or two posts though so it's best to be on the safe side. These polls include XB1 fans by the way.

I told you i don't care if the ps4 outsells the xbox one because i have both consoles. You say you don't care yet you seem to keep bringing it up and go to those websites to see the polls.

To be honest I don't remember the PS4 (or any PlayStation product) having a (+) associated work it since Christmas lol. It's always a (-). According to vgchartz PlayStation is either declining or no change in sales every month.

That can't be true. This site is a joke.

@ats1992:

I don't go to those sites specifically to find these polls LOL. I'm a member of both Gaf and VGC. I've always got them open and flit between them and here, as I am now.

How else do you think I find out what most 'sane' people are thinking and talking about? If you rely on N4Gs as a gauge for sanity you'll end up thinking Alice in Wonderland is an autobiography.

I really am not a Xbox Fan, look at my comment history for prove. But fact is, that ATS1992 is totally right. Sony fanboys always take VGCZ as reliable source, if Sonys PS4 is selling better. Then again, I actually look at the numbers from VGCZ every week and I cant remember, when the Xbox One actually sold more than PS4, that is like the first week, so it is very very funny, that some Sony fanboys actually claim the opposite here^^

Retconing ....

Most ps fans shunned vgc even when the ps was on top... what the dig was, was that the site that notoriously undertracked sony sales whilst overtracking ms ones actually put the ps on top. Therefore if that said site would put the ps4 on top then it would be obviously closer to the truth and every single offical disclosure has backed that up.

Vgc have to continuously readjust so when you look back at their numbers, they seem credible. We are not fooled. Just take the titanfall month for example. That game was meant to make the difference. It left those championing vgc's numbers up to that point, looking kinda stupid again. How quiet some were that month...you could smell the sodium....lmao

More credible sites and members have been banned from n4g yet vgc continues to hit grab.

When people start voting it down in droves.

It has just become extremely obvious that their prediction methodology is flawed. I used to use them as a reference because it is basically all we had. Think about it, if it wasn't for VGChartz all we would know is that the Xbox has sold 3 million and the PS4 has sold 7 million. Microsoft for one, enables VGChartz by continuing to be non transparent about sales.

Fact remains... The UK and the US are the closest market when looking at PS4 and XBONE.... However, the US numbers are grossly incorrect, showing the latter outselling, when the NPDs say something completely different.

Nothing to do with fanboys... More to do with facts, and fiction from VG vs reality of sales. The European picture shows sales being 5:1 in some weeks in favour of the PS4. Infact the UK Market, albeit small, accounts for 70% of European sales. No matter what the Numbers say for the UK, this is dreadful.

The question isn't the UK, or these Numbers... It's the overall trending of this site and the continuous upward adjustment of the PS4 numbers. Sony will be closer to 8 million now. Watch this Space when it will be 2:1 worldwide.

Funny how when the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide, Xbox owners kept quoting the US sales... Now look they're quoting UK sales. Just like MS switching from sell through to shipped.

Stop avoiding the blatant facts and focussing on tiny "victories" like the UK Market and TitanFall. People forget the XBONE is £100 reduced with TitanFall FREE.

Link or lie

The usual from Axios.... TitanFall, TitanFall, TitanFall!

Marry the game already and have babies.

The game is FREE in the UK with XBONEs.