Sony announced its financial results for the third quarter of fiscal year 2025, alongside the traditional update on PS5 shipments.
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Sony and Nintendo are both thriving and I'm happy, thank goodness for them or otherwise the whole gaming industry would be in shambles if they only had PC to rely on!
• Total G&NS revenue: 10.5 billion USD
• Operating profit: 900 million USD
• Hardware sales: 8M units shipped
• Software sales: 97M units
• PSN MAU: 132M
vs. Xbox:
• Total gaming revenue: 5.96 billion USD
• nothing else gets reported
Xbox operating costs are without a doubt eye wateringly high, way way way higher than Sony. GP is costing them an absolute fortune to operate.
That is a very solid operating profit. It's not net, obviously, but still a very healthy amount of cash you make after cost of debt and taxes (+ other expenses), and can invest into R&D and future endeavours. And give back to your shareholders or buy back shares.
It would be in Sony's beat interest to not rush next generation. Let 2029 or 2030 be the start of next generation. There is clearly plenty of demand for the PS5 and gamers are not asking for more at this time.
Yup especially with the price of tech going up. They already have the PRO to hold them over.
Exactly this. Let Xbox wither on the vine for a couple more years and there will be nothing left.
I fully agree for 2 reasons:
1. Microsoft seems to be in a hurry to release the new Xbox, if they do at all... AMD speculates a 2027 release. This will hurt them in the long run, because:
2. Datacenters are buying up ALL the RAM, and some RAM manufacturers have stopped making RAM for consumer products entirely, while the other remaining ones are scared to ramp up their production capacity to make more RAM because they're worried this whole AI thing is a bubble that is about to pop, and they don't want to be caught holding the bag when it does pop. So, for now, it costs $300-400 for 32GB of DDR5. That's the MSRP for some entire consoles.
If Microsoft drops the new Xbox now, it's going to cost them a fortune. If Sony holds their cards a moment and lets PS5 cook for a while, as it's showing no signs whatsoever of slowing down in sales, then by the time PS6 is ready to drop, RAM prices should have stabilized, allowing Sony to devote much more of their budget towards making PS6's CPU and GPU more powerful, in addition to the tech itself maturing and the available CPU and GPU parts being much more powerful for the same price point than they would be if released today. So, we'd get a super powerful PS6 in say, 2029, that won't have to cost $700-800. They speculate, based on the current specs, that the new Xbox will cost north of $1,000, and that was before the RAM shortage came into the picture. It's definitely going to be even higher now that RAM costs so much.
MS will be shooting themselves in the foot (again) if they try to drop a new Xbox now, and Sony would be wise to capitalize on that mistake by holding their cards a while longer, raking in more of those PS5 profits, and then dropping a new console as soon as the hardware market stabilizes from this AI datacenter BS.
7 years is a hurry...? Its the same amount of time between XBO and series. The same amount of time between PS3 to PS4 and PS4 to PS5. The 360 was 8 years between it and XBO.
If they do release first, and then Sony a year or two later... is it not possible for prices to come down in that time?
I think Switch 2 beat PS5 during December 2025 that is why the gap decrease to 1m units. Because during black friday, I know PS5 sales is 2:1 against the Switch 2.
And I just want to add that the PlayStation 5 is currently 1.94 million units BEHIND the PlayStation 4 when you align launches. While Switch 2 is 10M ahead against the Switch 1 when you aligned covering it's first 7 months.
No one wants the Switch 2 to do badly.
PS5 being less than 2m behind PS4 is not a big deal; PS5 had to deal with COVID and ongoing supply and pricing struggles that clearly still exist today. Sales of software are incredibly strong, and the size of the community is bigger than its ever been.
PS5 is well on pace to exceed its early (2021) estimates of 110m by end of life even if that's 2027. PS5 will hit 100m before November and then sell another 6-8M in November + December.
PS5 is doing great, and so is Switch 2, it's good for everyone that they succeed, pitting the two against each other is more damaging than anything related to the sales of the two consoles individually.
@repsahj
Yup because they’ve been the anti consumer they are for so long and needs to be humbled 😆
I'd be lying if I said I didn't regret my purchase a bit. I mainly bought it for Mario Kart World, but I find it pales in comparison to 8. I'm annoyed that Nintendo charged money for a super barebones 'upgrade' to Jamboree, no new minigames? No new boards? Just some gimmicky low res camera mode. Oh and Midtroid Prime 4 let me down as well, yet to go back and finish it.
I don't want the Switch 2 to fail, it's contributing to a healthier console market with the death of xbox consoles. I'll get use out of mine long term, but some of Nintendo's decisions like the ones above just annoy me lol.
@respahj the only thing I want Nintendo to badly is the 80$ games so they lower the price.
A new patent registered by Sony suggests the company is exploring the idea of personalized podcasts on PS5, hosted by PlayStation characters.
Okay this is actually really cool too. What is being proposed here is that the AI will generate you a podcast that is focused on the games tht you play or have wihlisted. This means you always get topic relevant to your tastes. Just don't screw it up with a bunch of ads.
AI is very cool, it's just all the real cool stuff is being drowned out by companies exploiting it as a marketing buzzword, generative AI slop and companies using it to cut corners and save money.
This is a terrible idea. Firstly the characters voices originate from real voice work. Secondly, the ai could end up saying questionable things. Thirdly, some voice actors use their regular voice when acting.
I know it's cool to hate AI, but we only hate AI because of idiots that misuse it or exploit it to take away peoples jobs. THIS is a GREAT application of AI, instead of having a human being voice actor sitting there for hours talking in character while having people writing scripts or coming up with topics etc, it can all just get POOFd into thin air and you can enjoy unique and entertaining content that harms no one.
Not sure if intentionally being funny lol. isn't this like quite literally taking away people's jobs? I think SAG-AFTRA may disagree about this harming no one.,
The thing is that this isn't even something that's necessary to create as a job. Without AI it just wouldn't exist period, it wouldn't be worth the effort. So what I mean to say is, having AI utilize the voice actors (with their consent of course) to create unlimited "podcast-style" content is not only super lucrative (which people will call exploitation), but it creates an entire form of entertainment that requires a "Set it and forget it" mechanism where you don't have to babysit it or hire and fire or train or anything.
TLDR: Without AI this wouldn't even be considered at all, so I'd rather have this than not have it at all.
i hate this
i hate all of this. dont just use peoples voices for AI slob that u dont pay for
Nintendo has announced its financial results for the first 9 months of the fiscal year, new official sales figures for the Nintendo Switch 2, and more.
17M+ units in 6 months! Others on this site are insisting on only 10M units. XD
And as for Switch 1 total sales, it will only take a few months for it to surpass the 160M of PS2.
Will Sony magically be able to dig up PS2s again to increase the 160M number when the Switch is about to surpass it? hahaha.
They already did this in 2024 because Switch 1 is getting close to 155m. They might do it again because Switch is getting close to 160M.
"And as for Switch 1 total sales, it will only take a few months for it to surpass the 160M of PS2."
Few months lol. Maybe in a few years, and if it happens, that would be a big indication that the Switch 2 is not as successful as some here wanted us to believe; people still buy the OG Switch because there is nothing exciting on the Switch 2 and it's cheaper lol.
Too bad it took over 12 years for PS2 to reach that number (before Jim Ryan made took some more out of his ass) Does that mean people were buying PS2s becasue it was cheaper and nothing good on PS3 and almost PS4? Nice try. 🤣🤣🤣
The Switch 2 is outselling the Switch 1 when compared to their first years. You can swing this anyway you want, but that doesn't change reality and sales figures.
By your own logic, every single console has released to lackluster success because people kept buying the console before it. Sony even combined PS2 and PS3 sales at one point to help negate the lackluster start of the PS3.
@Rage77
people were buying PS2s because it was cheaper and nothing good on PS3. remember that the PS3 was released in 2006, God of War 2 was released in 2007.
it was at 10 million when i googled it a week ago, these are fresh numbers
17 million in 6 months is crazy
I think that number is until October only. And during the holidays, Switch 2 sold 7m+.
June 5 to December 31 is essentially seven months.
From the chart in the actual presentation.
"Cumulative global sell-through as of the 4th week of December 2025 15 million units."
"Sales Status of Hardware and Software (Sell-In) 17.37 million units."
15m Sold = sell-through
17.37m Shipped = sell-in
Itll probably get there. But at currently pace it's like a year and a half. And thats without that number declining as people get switch 2s instead
Maybe they still can. They need to put extra effort into promotions again and release bundled promos like with
2-3 games and 1yr Nintendo online subs.
There's a lot of people who want the switch to fail for some weird reason
They took Christmas sales as a indication that the system was a flip and proceeded to celebrate prematurely
I still believe the Switch 2 is not gonna be as successful as the OG Switch. We'll see ;)
Well... it can't be the new wiiu if it already passed it and is on track to keep selling over the next several years. It took WiiU 4 years to even get close to 14m. SW2 passed it in 6 months.
The PS5 is showing to not reach the PS4, so you should worry about that instead.
That is pretty amazing. I love what Nintendo did with the Switch 2 as they fixed every issue I had with the original and it seems devs agree given the amount of 3rd party support it is receiving.
I agree! That was their previous criticism of the Switch 1, now Nintendo has responded with the Switch 2. They still can't beat the games on console versions but the gap is massive compared to Switch 1 and ps4. For me, the end result that you see with your eyes while playing is what's important, not that you have to dissect the game and zoom in 200% to see the difference.
It's a better Switch with much better graphics, third-party support, and fully backwards compatible. You knew what it would be before purchasing.
Besides, surely you were more disappointed by the PS3's launch or the Vita given how rough theirs were in comparison.
how is it more disappointing than the original Switch? It's an improvement in every way when you directly compare.
All those clickbait YouTubers and Twitter users are going to be working overtime to try and swing this as a bad thing, when it continues to defy expectations and break records.
The Switch 2 has now outsold the Steam Deck nearly 3x over and is outselling the OG Switch by nearly 5,000,000 with half a year of sales to go for its first year.
Apparently he was begrudgingly saying he was wrong. I'll take reddits word for it though. He ain't getting any traffic from me. I dont need him or any one like him stinking up my feed. You let in one grifter and the algotherim decides to flood you with them. 😆
