It seems to me that for every dev that does praise the ID_Xbox and changes made we get one that doesn't.

Lets be honest here, MS can't get back to every single dev in the world, some will slip through the cracks. And for these little devs to tweet some inconsistencies between companies and especially MS is not only unprofessional but it seems to be the popular thing to do.

hope Sony is "proactive" enough to bring over Yakuza Ishin

That's been our experience as well getting setup with the @ID_Xbox program. Sony contacted us almost immediately after we filled out our initial applications and our manager walked us through all the forms necessary to become a registered developer. The communication was great and they were very hands on to get us setup and I don't think I ever had to wait more than a few hours for a response when I've had any questions thus far.

Contrast this to the @ID_Xbox program, we filled out the initial application for developer status back when it was first launched. Nothing happened for two months. Then we received a form letter inviting us to some event in Chicago. This was the first communication we had and we still had no idea if we were accepted into the program or anything about it. In the months following all we've ever received have been the monthly newsletters (usually starting with an apology from MS that processing applications is taking so long) and invites to events in other countries. I asked the rep on Twitter (as my emails were never returned) and they said if we're seeing the newsletters, we're in but probably still being processed. That's it. No details about the program, no personal contact. Nothing.

It's actually nice to hear that it's not just happening to us. You can say "Well, probably lots of people are applying," but I'm sure they're applying to Sony as well, and Sony seems to be handling it. There's no excuse for MS not to be as well. If MS was serious about working with indie developers, they'd be putting resources behind building relationships with them and getting tools into their hands as soon as possible.

Nothing's going to change unless developers speak out about this. Kudos to these guys for adding their voices to other developers who've expressed similar frustrations. They only way MS is going to change is if developers make their voices heard.

I mean honestly, what are they supposed to do? Continue sending emails that go unanswered? Like Cog said below, the squeakiest wheel gets the grease. If you're too "professional" to make any noise, don't be surprised when you continue to be ignored. I can't believe there's Microsoft defenders here acting like the developer themselves is somehow to blame in all of this. Just unreal.

Could you imagine if each day you went into your bank with your business, and the bank teller just ignored you day in, day out when you're just trying to get your job done, and then someone has the audacity to tell you that actually YOU'RE to blame, not the bank or the bank teller. I'm sure they're very busy, or maybe you're annoying to them. Don't make any noise to attract attention, just be quiet and get nothing done. Unreal...

I'm sure most devs are pleased with it, they're just the silent majority. But it's their job to take care of the whiners because that's all people will hear.

This is no different from respawns article about bringing titan fall to ps4... Good example to compare bias, or unbias..... Capybara who is working on below for xbox one has high praise for ms support of their indie game, but where is that article???

The positive stories about XBOX don't get page views, silly.

I disagree, I think that is the last thing any company who wants to be professional should do.

We have seen a lot of companies and especially people go to Twitter and it backfire because they didn't get the whole story or fully understand the situation.

maniac, I don't think it's the right thing either, but that's the reality of business (not everyone gets the same level of support all the time) and social media (squeakiest wheel gets the oil).

I agree that not everyone gets the same level of support. That is the nature of the beast and it sux, but taking it to social media won't make those wheels turn any faster. Only that paper green seems to move that machine faster.

A business like this should try their best to make this game as fun and popular as possible and put it out only for the PS4. If it becomes a success then go to the media with those facts. I'm sure MS will take notice then.

You're satisfied with Microsoft actively allowing LESS content? Also indies need all the help and ease they can get given how hard and expensive game development can be.

it's not about having less content, i prefer better quality over more quantity. If I could get one stellar AAA or mid-major game release vs 10 indies, I'd take that any day of the week.

How many dev complaints does it take for you to see a pattern?

apprently it only works when it's EA , wich is odd considering everyone hates them .

Joke aside , there is no winning "a generation" , especialyl so early after launch for both . Sony fans and fanboys especially should remind themselves that the ps3 was "doomed" at first , yet caught up over the years , and in the end

There's no room for logic at N4G!!!!

Take your common sense elsewhere!

So will you call MS childish when they have said "we will kill Sony this gen" or "we will win this gen" or will you retreat and prove you're a paid astrosurfer?

yeah that is why the PS1-PS2 days are bad right?

E3 will tell us how focused they are on games, not long of wait now.

Very true. It's gonna be good all around this year I think. New consoles have that effect.

Sorry knws but sony have been building their 1st 2nd party relationships for 2 gens now. Ms are playing catch up. The evidence of that is last gen. Look at the fall off for such a 'cash rich' company..... last gen too many flip floppers were screaming exclusives didnt matter and when they were winning goty awards its was then the 'ps3 owners dont buy games' nonsense.

Now you see ms finally talking about 1st party growth, some assume sony is resting on its laurels. They have tackled their indy issues of last gen head on and have come out better for it so now indies are predictably downplayed. 'Indystation'.......li ke some how having more of both is bad... some of you guys just can't make up your minds

Oh,.....Thanks for the easiest 3 points we've earned at the Emirates in ages

Micrososft funded the development of dead rising 3 which is why it was exclusive. The way you hate on xbox and defend sony like your getting paid to do it supposively the playstation has games so why dont you go play them instead of trolling and looking dumb in the process.

343i inferior??..really..bungie moved on,.they wanted to branch out and not do halo,..and personally i am glad for them,..weather destiny will prove amazing is to be seen,..but i think it will be..time will tell.
A proper fable 4....complain about a game,..once its released,..and you have played it,..surely this makes sense,...you might be surprised??
key figures at rare have left??....yet is it not so that key figures are leaving sonys studios..(you know ......the ones they have left after having to sell them to keep afloat in such turbulent financial problems)..naughty dog etc...yet this is ok
as for resources,..microsoft Have the resources,.and begore anyone blabs about microsoft buying devs up and stranglehold talent etc etc,..well im pretty sure the devs are big boys that know what they are getting into,..o and how much richer they will be,..like it or not,..money talks in all walks of life.

Both Sony and Nintendo support the self-publishing model. Why it's taken Microsoft so long to get with the program is beyond me.

This brand died in the last 2 years of 360 since Kinect announcement.. downfall started all of a sudden until reaching the point of no return with xbox 1 DRM disasters

True i agree with that, xbox's got nothing

He's being clowned on by the entire internet but i have been clowning on him way before he became CEO. I hate modern PS so much man. To this day i have no idea how Astro Bot happend in this terrible PS era but that was clearly a miracle.

Every. Time! They compare the closing of a studio (one I liked, mind you, but they know their business better than internet dwellers) to the departure of not one but TWO major figureheads at Xbox. On top of Xbox's other problems, they are also now selling their games everywhere (not just PC).

Sorry diehard Xbox fanatics, we've been down this road before. PlayStation has closed studios. It happens. Maybe they weren't pulling their weight. Maybe they have a restructure in place. What ever the case, it won't come any close to tanking their brand. Xbox isn't in that boat. As a piece of hardware, it is all but irrelevant (hanging on only because of Game Pass at this point). It serves no other purpose because you don't even need that console to play its games. If it was just Xbox/PC, that would be different, but here we are.

So, this isn't the SonyToo that y'all love to hang on. Things are not good for Xbox hardware. At all. It is about time to start accepting that.