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Dreamfall Dev: Sony Team Is Proactive, Microsoft Is Not

Ragnar Tørnquist, creator of Dreamfall and The Secret World, explains that the Sony team has been great with them, contrarily to Microsoft.

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Concertoine4382d ago

Ouch. MS needs to improve relations with developers, the last thing they need is bad press from someone other than themselves.
Im being harsh, but i should mention that they are doing better lately.

Gazondaily4382d ago

"Unfortunately the same can’t be said for @ID_Xbox. We’ve been having a really difficult time getting any response from @Microsoft."

Get your act together Microsoft. Actions speak louder than words. Sentiments like this simply should not exist if you keep touting how you are now supporting indies.

maniacmayhem4382d ago

It seems to me that for every dev that does praise the ID_Xbox and changes made we get one that doesn't.

Lets be honest here, MS can't get back to every single dev in the world, some will slip through the cracks. And for these little devs to tweet some inconsistencies between companies and especially MS is not only unprofessional but it seems to be the popular thing to do.

NewMonday4382d ago

hope Sony is "proactive" enough to bring over Yakuza Ishin

Anon19744382d ago (Edited 4382d ago )

That's been our experience as well getting setup with the @ID_Xbox program. Sony contacted us almost immediately after we filled out our initial applications and our manager walked us through all the forms necessary to become a registered developer. The communication was great and they were very hands on to get us setup and I don't think I ever had to wait more than a few hours for a response when I've had any questions thus far.

Contrast this to the @ID_Xbox program, we filled out the initial application for developer status back when it was first launched. Nothing happened for two months. Then we received a form letter inviting us to some event in Chicago. This was the first communication we had and we still had no idea if we were accepted into the program or anything about it. In the months following all we've ever received have been the monthly newsletters (usually starting with an apology from MS that processing applications is taking so long) and invites to events in other countries. I asked the rep on Twitter (as my emails were never returned) and they said if we're seeing the newsletters, we're in but probably still being processed. That's it. No details about the program, no personal contact. Nothing.

It's actually nice to hear that it's not just happening to us. You can say "Well, probably lots of people are applying," but I'm sure they're applying to Sony as well, and Sony seems to be handling it. There's no excuse for MS not to be as well. If MS was serious about working with indie developers, they'd be putting resources behind building relationships with them and getting tools into their hands as soon as possible.

Nothing's going to change unless developers speak out about this. Kudos to these guys for adding their voices to other developers who've expressed similar frustrations. They only way MS is going to change is if developers make their voices heard.

I mean honestly, what are they supposed to do? Continue sending emails that go unanswered? Like Cog said below, the squeakiest wheel gets the grease. If you're too "professional" to make any noise, don't be surprised when you continue to be ignored. I can't believe there's Microsoft defenders here acting like the developer themselves is somehow to blame in all of this. Just unreal.

Could you imagine if each day you went into your bank with your business, and the bank teller just ignored you day in, day out when you're just trying to get your job done, and then someone has the audacity to tell you that actually YOU'RE to blame, not the bank or the bank teller. I'm sure they're very busy, or maybe you're annoying to them. Don't make any noise to attract attention, just be quiet and get nothing done. Unreal...

redwin4382d ago

It seems to me that if MS rejects a developer or if MS is not jumping hoops for them them MS is evil. MS has said that they don't want to clutter Xbox market place with every game available! Just the best they can get. I commend them for that. Remember, 35% of steam games haven't been played . If there is a game that I want and MS doesn't have it then I'll get it from PSN. But this guy seems very unprofessional, you don't trash someone else's business in the net like that.

Anon19744382d ago (Edited 4382d ago )

@redwin. Microsoft still has the ultimate say on what's released on XBL and what's not. If they want to reject a game due to quality concerns, they're well withing their rights to do so. Good developer relations is another thing entirely. Nobody said anything about devs being "rejected".

Given the fact that Microsoft were starting every single ID@Xbox newsletter with "Sorry application processing is taking so long" it's not about developers being rejected, it's about MS not dedicating the resources to making sure developers are registered and given the chance to start working on making games for the Xbox One in a reasonable time frame.

I don't see how you could construe what he did as "trashing" MS. He said they had good support from Sony and they've had a hard time getting a response from Microsoft. Oh snap! Oh no, you didn't just say MS wasn't responding to your emails! That's such trash talk! /s

This is a simple statement of fact for them. Sony's been good, MS won't respond to them. There was nothing inflammatory said (unless you think comparing levels of support between two competing company's as inflammatory), there was nothing derogatory said, it was just a simple statement. I can't get over how many on here are acting like this guy "went off" over his twitter account against MS. Enough with the rhetoric. He did no such thing.

frostypants4382d ago

@Redwin, how can MS know what the best games available are if they can't even get developers beyond the initial application process?

SilentNegotiator4382d ago (Edited 4382d ago )

@maniac
"It seems to me that for every dev that does praise the ID_Xbox and changes made we get two that have something bad to say about it"
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Fixed. It's not 1:1 good and bad reception and you know it.

"And for these little devs to tweet some inconsistencies between companies and especially MS is not only unprofessional but it seems to be the popular thing to do"
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Could you be ANY bigger of a fanboy? You're seriously saying developers that call out MS for bad policies are "unprofessional"? And why would bashing a potential business partner be the "popular thing to do"? Are you seriously so out of touch that you think that developers are bashing the second fastest growing 8th gen console manufacturer for PUBLICITY?

redwin4382d ago

So, you are selling a product to different stores and you publicly state that one store is proactive and the competitor is not that's why you are not selling your product there. Sounds to me like bad etiquette. Its possible that MS has resources allocated in different areas and they are doing what they can

air14382d ago

We'll lets be fair though.. Ms can't get to every dev. Respawn didn't get much response or help from sony either that doesn't mean they are bad, they probably just had there eyes on something that they thought would be better.

jessupj4381d ago (Edited 4381d ago )

Oh maniac, you try to act intelligent by having good sentence structure, but you're so bias and so out of touch with reality it's just not funny any more.

Lets be honest here. Considering how we're all reminded on this site most days about how much money MS has, maybe they could use that money to actually invest into games. Yes?

Since they've been telling us how their for the gamer now and they investing heavily into games I would have thought we wouldn't be seeing these kinds of complaints from DEVELOPERS. (not fanboys with an agenda, but developers who's lively hoods depends on good relations)

It seems MS is just focusing on the things they deem "important" and that will garner more good will with gamers and forgetting about the rest.

This is why I support sony so much. Because they genuinely push the industry forward. They don't need to be so supportive and accommodating of the little guys for their current success, but they do.

The MS apologists on this thread sadden me. It's truly mind boggling how anyone can defend this.

UltraNova4381d ago

@air1

'Ms can't get to every dev.'

It looks to me that its the developers that go to MS and get ignored while Sony doesn't and if memory serves me its Sony that reduced their personnel by 50% the last 3 years and not MS. Whats MS's excuse? I believe this is just another case of being taken granted by MS.

'Respawn didn't get much response or help from sony either that doesn't mean they are bad, they probably just had there eyes on something that they thought would be better.'

The whole Respawn-Titanfall-Sony thing is so fishy I can smell it form here. I dont get how being under the helm of EA, and their bank accounts, and still need help works...We dont know what truly happened and I dont buy for a minute the assumption of Sony passing on such an opportunity (Titanfall)when everybody praises them for their fast and proactive support.

Open your eyes people, they talk so much nowadays we just need to read between the lines.

Azzanation4381d ago (Edited 4381d ago )

Where do you think Indies came from? It all started at MS (MS DOS/Windows) Xbox is fine and doesn't need Indies, that's what PCs are for. Don't forget Live was doing this way before Sony were.

Also note Sony looked pass Respawn so no company is perfect. But honestly who cares. Indies can make games on PC if they cant cut it into Consoles. If there successful then they cross over. Like Outlast.

I can tell you one thing. I didn't buy a next gen console so I can play Indie games.

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Charybdis4382d ago (Edited 4382d ago )

Strange I was hearing positive sounds about @ID_xbox.Here is an example were to respond to a tweet of an indie dev offering their help to get their game on xb1.
http://www.reddit.com/r/xbo...

Obviously Microsoft is at fault not giving dreamfall guys an hand hope they will improve their program and invite them to their program.

Concertoine4382d ago (Edited 4382d ago )

I'm sure most devs are pleased with it, they're just the silent majority. But it's their job to take care of the whiners because that's all people will hear.

tgunzz4382d ago (Edited 4382d ago )

This is no different from respawns article about bringing titan fall to ps4... Good example to compare bias, or unbias..... Capybara who is working on below for xbox one has high praise for ms support of their indie game, but where is that article???

xx4xx4382d ago (Edited 4382d ago )

The positive stories about XBOX don't get page views, silly.

Christopher4382d ago

Eh. Not everyone is going to get the same level of support. And, the best way to get support is sometimes to go on Twitter and make a big deal out of it. I'm sure Microsoft will be giving them the best of support now.

maniacmayhem4382d ago

I disagree, I think that is the last thing any company who wants to be professional should do.

We have seen a lot of companies and especially people go to Twitter and it backfire because they didn't get the whole story or fully understand the situation.

Christopher4382d ago

maniac, I don't think it's the right thing either, but that's the reality of business (not everyone gets the same level of support all the time) and social media (squeakiest wheel gets the oil).

maniacmayhem4382d ago

I agree that not everyone gets the same level of support. That is the nature of the beast and it sux, but taking it to social media won't make those wheels turn any faster. Only that paper green seems to move that machine faster.

A business like this should try their best to make this game as fun and popular as possible and put it out only for the PS4. If it becomes a success then go to the media with those facts. I'm sure MS will take notice then.

DragonKnight4382d ago

@maniac: Twitter is partly responsible for MS removing their draconian DRM schemes from the XB1. Making a noise affects PR which translates into dollars.

maniacmayhem4382d ago (Edited 4382d ago )

@Dragon

Twitter is also greatly responsible for many of people losing their jobs.

There's a difference between public and fan outcry of a product and a person crying on Twitter. Especially since we don't know the full story on either side.

ShwankyShpanky4382d ago

"We have seen a lot of companies and especially people go to Twitter and it backfire because they didn't get the whole story or fully understand the situation."

"Deal with it."

Gazondaily4382d ago

lol @ squeakiest wheel gets the oil. Gonna jack that quote.

Hit the nail on the head mind you.

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karamsoul4382d ago

Microsoft needs a culture change, and fast.

HugoDrax4382d ago

The value of the corporation says otherwise.

http://www.forbes.com/compa...

They don't need to change anything if they're still making money, hand over fist.

"IF IT DONT MAKE DOLLARS, THEN IT DONT MAKE SENSE"

Magicite4382d ago

Developers are the main pillars of gaming.

randomass1714382d ago

Microsoft has definitely been slow to appease developers lately. Something they really should work on. Nintendo too. Sony's the only one of the big three that really played their cards right with devs this generation.

corvusmd4382d ago (Edited 4382d ago )

This is almost as bad as how Sony treated Respawn. Its tough to keep up with all these indie devs coming out of the woodworks. I'm sure some amazing games will come out of this and some will slip through the cracks. However, when you start treating AAA Developers like this...then it's a real issue. I'm sure MS would love to give every indie dev in the world their full undivided attention if they could...it's not really feasible. But somehow everytime one of them says something negative about MS it becomes headline news here. Just keep it fair people.

Indie Devs are great, but at the same time...think of them as like new rockstars signing their first major deal. Their heart and soul is REALLY into the project, which is great, but also makes them overly sensitive when it isn't treated like the best thing in the world...understandable, but simply not returning a phone call at this stage could be the difference between getting called "proactive" and "non-responsive". I've worked around enough new "rockstars" (and old ones) that I can spot this psychological behavior miles away. Reality will set in soon.

@ Mystic Strummer "How many dev complaints does it take for you to see a pattern?"

When it's more legit devs than people leaving Naughty Dog.

calis4382d ago

Sony treated Respawn by saying they weren't interested in funding the game. That's not unusual and not a big deal.

People leaving devs is also not a big deal and happens all the time.

ShwankyShpanky4382d ago

Sony treated Respawn the same as other 3rd party debs: they weren't discussing PS4 with anyone.

AceBlazer134382d ago

Respawn wanted Sony to fund a multiplatform game published by EA aka Microsoft's b*tch. Who would do that? Besides i don't believe a word of that from respawn. You telling me all these indies got Sony's support butrespawn didn't ? Nothing seems fishy there?Only 1 thing kept TF off PlayStation and that was Microsoft's cheque book.

assdan4382d ago

I don't know why I keep clicking on these. We get that sony has better relations, let's move on.

Concertoine4382d ago

Cool....... why are you replying to me about it?

Pogmathoin4382d ago

This is just another one of these articles to announce themselves.... Who had really know much about this ragnar and developer? Now you do....... Seems to be a story like this every week.....

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF4381d ago

Who? Another small time complaining about MS?

pheature4381d ago

better in what way exactly?
i see no difference than the announment of ddrm way back then

Concertoine4381d ago

better in that their PR blunders are few and far compared to last year. Plus the promotion of Phil is a good decision

pheature4381d ago

concertoine honestly regardless of who is in that position the same agenda is going to stay in place.
The way i see it, if microsoft look as if things are changing from the outside people would believe it.
just like the same way people believe the cloud will make the console Xamount times more powerfull.
Its all a bit of a sham if you ask me.
Good entertainment box, but for games the ps4 is the console. and i was a 360 fanatic. so no biased opinion im just saying how it looks.
but it would be good if x1 came out with a new "hybrid" before the sony price drop, but ofcorse that would change the hardware completly and with still so many x1 unsold it wont happen.
sony has this one wrapped up ...

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Alexious4382d ago

It seems like they didn't improve so much after all, not yet at least. Dreamfall Chapters will be a unique kind of game and it would be disappointing for many Xbox gamers if Microsoft didn't help the devs porting it to Xbox One.

CJDUNCAN4382d ago

seems like a lot of these indie developers wants to be coddled. and sure it will be disappointing to lose out on these developers and games for some xbox gamers, but it's not a deal breaker to me.

randomass1714382d ago

You're satisfied with Microsoft actively allowing LESS content? Also indies need all the help and ease they can get given how hard and expensive game development can be.

CJDUNCAN4382d ago

it's not about having less content, i prefer better quality over more quantity. If I could get one stellar AAA or mid-major game release vs 10 indies, I'd take that any day of the week.

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chrissx4382d ago

This sums up why Sony and Ps4 will win this gen hands down

Negative774382d ago

Because some no name dev is blabbing gibberish?

MysticStrummer4382d ago

How many dev complaints does it take for you to see a pattern?

Baka-akaB4382d ago (Edited 4382d ago )

apprently it only works when it's EA , wich is odd considering everyone hates them .

Joke aside , there is no winning "a generation" , especialyl so early after launch for both . Sony fans and fanboys especially should remind themselves that the ps3 was "doomed" at first , yet caught up over the years , and in the end

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zenezrail4382d ago

First of all, this guy is established, not a "no name". Second, how do you think the big names got where they are? They all started out as nobodies. Ignoring the nobody little guy is how you miss out on the next Minecraft. Those sort of things come out of nowhere over night.

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Einhert4382d ago

People talking about "winning generations" now?

How pathetic and childish is this industry? Do knuckle heads not understand that competition is good?

If either company ever "won" it would be for the worst.

Negative774382d ago

There's no room for logic at N4G!!!!

Take your common sense elsewhere!

MightyNoX4382d ago

So will you call MS childish when they have said "we will kill Sony this gen" or "we will win this gen" or will you retreat and prove you're a paid astrosurfer?

wodan4382d ago

yeah that is why the PS1-PS2 days are bad right?

BlackTar1874382d ago

Competition is good. Just wish it was someone other then M$.

To this Day PS1 & ps2 are the best systems with some room for argument obviously SNES NES and N64. But really competition is needed and that's a fact. The level of competition needed is yet to be defined though.

ShwankyShpanky4382d ago

Competition means winners and losers, even if only in relation to each other.

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hello124382d ago

Microsoft has switched focus to setting up more first party studios, to make games. Microsoft welcomes indies but the focus is more on bringing AAA games to x box 1.

Sony dues to its financials supports indies more than Microsoft. That's just the reality for next gen.

MysticStrummer4382d ago

MS has switched focus for sure, but games don't have much to do with it.

hello124382d ago

E3 will tell us how focused they are on games, not long of wait now.

MysticStrummer4382d ago

Very true. It's gonna be good all around this year I think. New consoles have that effect.

Why o why4382d ago (Edited 4382d ago )

Sorry knws but sony have been building their 1st 2nd party relationships for 2 gens now. Ms are playing catch up. The evidence of that is last gen. Look at the fall off for such a 'cash rich' company..... last gen too many flip floppers were screaming exclusives didnt matter and when they were winning goty awards its was then the 'ps3 owners dont buy games' nonsense.

Now you see ms finally talking about 1st party growth, some assume sony is resting on its laurels. They have tackled their indy issues of last gen head on and have come out better for it so now indies are predictably downplayed. 'Indystation'.......li ke some how having more of both is bad... some of you guys just can't make up your minds

Oh,.....Thanks for the easiest 3 points we've earned at the Emirates in ages

BlackTar1874382d ago

Why o why,

It's so true the flip floper on the MS fence are so tiring and annoying.

Last gen you had
Exclusives don't matter casue MultiPlats sell the most.
A missing shadow on a multiplat was the ZOMG 360 version is so much better
Indies are awesome and amazing and xbox supports them like crazy so they are awesome and amazing.

This Gen
Exclusives are all that matter. Xbone has 1 count them 1 retail exclusive more then PS4 and it's so huge now.
Less resolution and missing effects don't matter anymore at all it's all about the gameplay.
Indies suck boooo

These are just 3 of the 20+ goalposts Xbox fans had last year. Sick of them moving it's getting old.

randomass1714382d ago

Could be worse. Once upon a time their focus was only on TV and DRM. Now it seems like it's going to be a lot of things, and E3 may very well tell us that games will be a big part of that.

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SuperWeeb4382d ago

Sony secured their first parties last generation with studios like Media Molecule. Yes, they were idiots for getting rid of Liverpool (WipEout) and Zipper (Socom), but the investment they've made has secured them a good number of first party studios and IPs.
It isn't far off to say that they have possibly one of the best first party lineups for this generation.

The studios everyone knows and loves in Nintendo, including Game Freak (Pokemon) and HAL (Kirby) are actually mainly second party and not owned by Nintendo, so that's kind of out of this particular discussion.

Microsoft on the other hand, often need to resort to, like last gen, moneyhatting third parties for exclusives. Dead Rising 3 is an example of this, which could have easily been on any other system. Something like Deep Down, however, which also involves Capcom, is being co-developed by Sony.
It's safe to say that Microsoft have the weakest first party lineup this generation. They've lost Bungie, which is replaced with the inferior 343i. Lionhead have taken into a new direction with dungeon crawling and have no plans on a "proper" Fable 4 (Which would currently be the only thing that would make me want to buy an Xbox), and the key figures of Rare have pretty much left, and now we're stuck with them making Kinect games. Aside from this, they have literally nothing left.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that they're going to be improving their first party lineup, it was abysmal last generation. But if you're looking for AAA first party titles, you're less likely to see it on the Microsoft front for the while, and more like to see it on the Sony front that have the party resources and IPs to support this.

ghostface94382d ago

Micrososft funded the development of dead rising 3 which is why it was exclusive. The way you hate on xbox and defend sony like your getting paid to do it supposively the playstation has games so why dont you go play them instead of trolling and looking dumb in the process.

frankdrebin724382d ago (Edited 4382d ago )

343i inferior??..really..bungie moved on,.they wanted to branch out and not do halo,..and personally i am glad for them,..weather destiny will prove amazing is to be seen,..but i think it will be..time will tell.
A proper fable 4....complain about a game,..once its released,..and you have played it,..surely this makes sense,...you might be surprised??
key figures at rare have left??....yet is it not so that key figures are leaving sonys studios..(you know ......the ones they have left after having to sell them to keep afloat in such turbulent financial problems)..naughty dog etc...yet this is ok
as for resources,..microsoft Have the resources,.and begore anyone blabs about microsoft buying devs up and stranglehold talent etc etc,..well im pretty sure the devs are big boys that know what they are getting into,..o and how much richer they will be,..like it or not,..money talks in all walks of life.

OrangePowerz4382d ago

Sony has more studios and AAA games in development than MS.

Also Sony supported indies better already 3 years ago. You are making the assumption that Sony is paying the indie devs, but all they do is provide support to get the games released and most of them are multiplatform.

randomass1714382d ago

Both Sony and Nintendo support the self-publishing model. Why it's taken Microsoft so long to get with the program is beyond me.

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted1d 1h ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8521h ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele10h ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk7h ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay5h ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon1011d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit5h ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg2h ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon1011h ago(Edited 1h ago)

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14914h ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay8h ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn21d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn25h ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown17h ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos21h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay7h ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay7h ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac32m ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger20h ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300019h ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde18h ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood18h ago(Edited 17h ago)

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde4h ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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Agent752d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.