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Xbox One Vs PS4: Backwards Compatible Cloud Is Microsoft's Only Hope As PS Now Continues Development

Microsoft needs a real answer to one of Sony's best upcoming features or it will fall even further behind in sales.

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pedrof934411d ago (Edited 4411d ago )

What franchises are there to play ? The only decent games are being ported to this gen.

In the original xbox the only decent games were Kotor 1 and 2, and on X360 Gears,Halo and Alan Wake. To be honest I find hard to get those games for the campaign (excpt Alan Wake).

Unless they'll bring the multi-plat otherwise there aren't enough games or variety.

lets_go_gunners4411d ago

If kotor is the only game you remember from OG Xbox you're quite young.

KwietStorm_BLM4411d ago

I'll throw in Jade Empire but that's it. And I'm not young. Don't know what that has to do with it.

pedrof934411d ago

The original Xbox library was poor.

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Magnes4411d ago (Edited 4411d ago )

@pedrof93

Og Xbox = fable,halo 1 and 2,Kotor 1 and 2,the og splinter cell(was exclusive fora long time), Amped 1 and 2,valve even squeezed Half life 2 on it. The list of good games for og xbox Is long.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w...

Gotcha54411d ago (Edited 4411d ago )

@gunners
I'll throw in some Crimson Skies,Phantom Dust,Jade Empire,Ninja Gaiden,Conker,Otagi 1-2,Star Wars Battlefront,Steel Battalion w/BAC and Halo 1-2.

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cyguration4411d ago

Dude, just no.

When the 360 launched with a thin library, people could play Halo 2 online with their friends while they waited for more games.

You also had Forza Motorsport, Blinx, Mech Assault and a bunch of other titles on the OG Xbox to tide you over while waiting for new games.

If the Xbox One had backwards compatibility I would be playing A TON of games, not to mention considering getting back some games I've sold but felt like playing.

Microsoft is missing out on this big time. I still have some PSX/PS2 games that I would gladly play on the PS4 when the backwards compatible firmware update arrives.

pedrof934411d ago (Edited 4411d ago )

Forza, you're suggesting that you would be playing old Forzas ?

Oh yeah, Playstation 1,2 and 3 have/had a great catalog.

cyguration4411d ago

@Pedrof93 Forza 4 has more content than Forza 5 and is cheaper. So yeah, why wouldn't I play a game that gives me a ton of replay without costing me an arm and a leg?

And why wouldn't I want to play Gears of War 2 and 3 while waiting for the new one on the XB1?

If you bought an XB1 because your 360 died you're left with a crappy library of games until next year.

SlyFoxC4411d ago

CHROMEHOUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

lets_go_gunners4411d ago (Edited 4411d ago )

Kotor, Conker, Ninja Gaiden, MGS2, The good splinter cells, Voodoo vince, Phantom dust a game that no one liked but now are dying over (still one of my favs tho) Mech Warrior and these are just games I can remember. Anyone who owned could of listed some amazing games that fell through the cracks. Kingdom under fire and steel battalion. Plus 3rd strike multiplayer was on xbox.

lelo4411d ago (Edited 4411d ago )

Am I the only one who finds PS Now not interesting at all? Paying a monthly fee to play old games, probably with lag... NO THANKS. Not interested.

I'm already pissed because I payed 50€ for a year of PSN+ and the PS4 games offered until now are crap. I hope Sony improves their PSN+ PS4 offerings in the near future.

MAULxx4411d ago

I don't care about PS Now.
What I do care about is that they're testing PS1 & PS2 emulation for PS4. PS3 games will be streaming, PS1 & 2 games will be download/non streaming & "possibly" game disc support.

choujij4411d ago (Edited 4411d ago )

Heh. While I still have both my original Xbox (and 360), I believe all but a very few Xbox titles were eventually released on PC and other platforms. The only ones I think that are still exclusive are Project Gotham Racing, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Phantom Dust, MechAsault, Conker, Fusion Frenzy, Voodoo Vince and Brute Force.

Other than that, Halo 1, 2, JSR, Kotor 1, 2, Fable and Jade Empire all made their way over to PC. All the other titles I can think of are multi-plats.

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KinjoTakemura4411d ago (Edited 4411d ago )

Microsoft won't do anything that will undercut sales of xbox1 software. Guaranteed.

MeteorPanda4411d ago

yeah. inc all the fanboys defending/attacking xbox now...

/sigh

DigitalRaptor4410d ago (Edited 4410d ago )

But you won't confront ANY validity in anything that is remotely painting Xbox in a negative way... PlayStation Now is a big thing. It looks to make a bigger mark upfront than Xbone cloud because by the time MS gets their act together, the perception of "Sony offers cloud" will already have impacted hard.

So Microsoft DOES need something to answer to it, and the cloud won't benefit their console in any big way for quite a long time. It's hard to accept, I know, but having better gaming features means better things.

XBOTTOX4411d ago

who really wants backwards compatibility that bad on either platform? From my experiences, old games rarely play as good as you remember them

KingOfArcadia4411d ago

I don't understand why anyone would want to play last-gen (or older) games on a new-gen machine. That would be like wanting to play videocassettes in your DVD player.

pedrof934411d ago

I've been reading some stupid comments here and there, but you wow. You beat them all.

Testfire4411d ago

Bad analogy. It would be more akin to wanting to watch Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom on blu ray. Just like a good movie, a good game can be put on any new form of media, be it blu ray or digital.

It's about options, options are good mkay. Also don't forget that new gamers wouldn't have old systems and games to play, so for them to be able to play gems of the past is something that's good for the industry and the gamer.

Why o why4411d ago

Trust me...okami upscaled would play just as good as it did when I first played it. I'd much rather have 1 ps console than 2 taking up space in an already conjested tv stand.

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Summons754411d ago

How many great AAA games are out on the new systems....oh wait, barely a handful. Backward compatibility is good because it saves space in the home, let's you keep the games you enjoyed from the last generation, have something to play while waiting for new games, let's people experience games they never got to play if they didn't have the predecessor. For example, a lot of people who had a 360 got a Ps4 because the xbo wasn't too appealing. Now they are interested in Uncharted 4 but haven't played the original 3 and they never will without dishing out 150+ bucks or whatever ridiculous amount PSNow is going to require. I never had a Wii but there were a bunch of Wii games I wanted to play so when the WiiU came out I bought all the games I wanted to play and got to experience them.

If your experiences lead you to believe that older games aren't good as you remember them you either didn't really enjoy them to begin with, but up their greatness with nostalgia goggles, or are just a typical selfish gamer who puts graphics before gameplay. There are tons of Nes, Snes, 64, PS1, PS2 games that are still being played today and are held as some of the greatest games of their respective systems, going back and playing they still hold up today which is what makes them great because of smart gameplay and design.

Why would you want to be limited to only one library of games then throw them all away for the next when you could have all the previous titles too?

cyguration4411d ago

Well said. Bubbles up to you, sir.

XBOTTOX4410d ago

Don't speak for me because my opinion doesn't fit us exaggerated gamer enthusiasm. What do YOU still play that's held up so well to you. I'm a selfish gamer alright? You sound hella stupid. U want BC so dam bad, if its sooo important dude get a PC. FULL BC WITH EVERY CONSOLE EVER. Nobody said anything about throwing anything away ur just trolling.

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AceBlazer134411d ago

i don't know what crap you played back in the day but some older games beat alot of the stuff from the past few years.Isn't Chrono Trigger like the best game ever or something like that? or was it ocarina of time?

cyguration4411d ago

Super Mario 64, Super Mario World, Sonic 3 + Sonic & Knuckles, Ocarina of Time, F-Zero, General Chaos, Chrono Trigger, Out of this World, Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy VII, No One Lives Forever, Codename: Eagle, Baldur's Gate, Perfect Dark 64, etc., etc., etc.

There are a bunch of games that still hold up even compared to today's standards. This kid must be too young to have played anything from the golden era of gaming.

Clogmaster4411d ago

Great games are timeless because the mechanics aren't the problem.

Gotcha54411d ago

@Xbottox
Backwards compatibility are great for those summer dryspells or lack of new games.

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fanboyseverywhere4411d ago

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio24d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing24d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9224d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit24d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing24d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9224d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted26d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8526d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele26d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk26d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay25d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10126d ago (Edited 26d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit25d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg25d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10125d ago (Edited 25d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14926d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay26d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn226d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn225d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown26d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay26d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay26d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac25d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger26d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300026d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde26d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde25d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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