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Sony Will Win Sales War Because Kinect Is A Failure

Microsoft continues to support the Kinect despite the obvious sales problems the device creates.

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-Foxtrot4411d ago

I still think MS will unbundle it this year....and when they do I can finally see myself getting one.

They are only saying they aren't because they are scared people will hang on untill they decide to do that.....they want as many sales as they can now WITH Kinect and when they want a boost in sales they'll do a Kinect-less version.

It's all well planned out in my opinion.

Mankey4411d ago

I'm inclined to agree with you.

Consumers just don't see the value

georgeenoob4410d ago (Edited 4410d ago )

Talk about flaimbate. Such an arrogant tone in the title, sounds like a fanboy.

OT: Kinect is a success in regards to introducing X1 as a true next-gen console with such convenient voice commands and navigation, as well as apps used such as Skype.

If the author is moaning about games for Kinect, then give it time. It has only been months after the release, you expect developers to captilize the tech this early? With ID@Xbox we're already seeing a huge improvement in its use in games.

Microsoft WILL NOT unbundle Kinect, no matter how badly the PS fanbase wants them to. They stated this nearly a dozen times, yet N4G's wishful thinking keeps trending.

They will lower the Xbox One price as low as they want, WITHOUT unbundling Kinect. Cause MS is committed to Kinect and want developers to be just as committed in the future by bundling it. If it's unbundled there won't be a commitment. It's as simple as that.

OrangePowerz4410d ago (Edited 4410d ago )

What an arrogant assumption by MS that every person wants to pay extra for Kinect no matter if they want it or not without offering any other option.

Where are still waiting since many years to see anything coming out for Kinect games wise since the original was eeleased.

Many other devices have Skype so that's nothing great and voice controll can be achieved with a cheap 5 bucks mic. Thief and Tomb Raider have the exact same voice commands and work exactly the same on X1 and PS4.

MS also stated many times how it's not possible to remove the 24 hour log in or that Kinect needs to be connected and lo and behold now both are gone. Thereare simple rules, the further MS falls behind the less support and exclusive content they will get.

GiggMan4410d ago

Kinect hasn't done anything major for gaming like MS has promised. There is no reason to still bundle it with the X1. If you can live without voice commands you can live without Kinect.

I hope they do offer a "Kinectless" bundle. It will boost sells but also go against everything Microsoft said in the begining. Only problem is they would have to deal with pricing Kinect competitively with the PS Eye. To consumers they are just two cameras.

I personally feel like the X1 hardware is worth around $350 (between Wii U and PS4). I'd bite for that price and they can keep Kinect.

Borma4410d ago

@georgeenoob MS also stated multiple times Xbox One needed Kinect to function. Turned out that wasn't the case. Xbox One also had the intention to place full on DRM and 24hour check-ins remember? They reversed that decision because they started to listen to their fans. So why not listen to the fans who have not gotten one yet, hoping they release one without the Kinect? If people want one, they can buy one. Developers will still develop for it whether 10million Kinect's sold, 30million or 100million. Offer the option so it helps both sides of the fence. Why would that be a bad thing, expanding the userbase? Besides 3+ years of Kinect and nothing truly amazing came out of it (IMO) why should we expect it to change this generation? Some of the big developers have boatloads of money they could use to incorporate Motion-Controls into their big AAA games. But as we've seen you can only do so much to certain games. Please unbundle the Kinect.

@giggman What is sad is I know a couple Xbox One users who thought Voice-Control only worked with Kinect. They didn't know voice commands work with a headset/mic lol.

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Ittoryu4410d ago

@georgeenoob Yeah their as committed as they were to Games with Windows live. Most likely the contracts Mattrick signed are still good once those are fulfilled they will most likely unbundle no matter how bad the xbone fan based doesn't want them too.

hulk_bash19874410d ago (Edited 4410d ago )

@Georgeenoob

Kinect adds more features to the Xbox One as a multimedia device but in my opinion hasn't (as of yet) added anything worthwhile as far as gaming is concerned. That is my gripe with paying a premium for it when in all honesty I don't much care for voice control. Will I end up buying one later on this year? Yes, because of awesome looking games like Quantum Break and Sunset Overdrive. But I could live without Kinect in my household.

greenlantern28144410d ago

@georgeenoob
The Kinect makes xb1 a true next gen system.
You mean the Kinect that was also on the Xbox360 which did the same thing is next gen to you.
FYI the PS4 has a camera too but it is an optional add on, much like Kinect should have been then the people who wanted it could go buy it like the ps4 owners did.

zerog4410d ago

@georgenoob. A camera does not make a "gaming" system next gen. Its the games and stepping them up a notch that makes it next gen. I have yet to see any camera based games that are worth bragging about on any system and frankly in my opinion they all suck. Voice commands can be done on practically anything these days from phones to pc and yes belive it or not but the ps4 as well. So what you have is a camera that still adds practically nothing to actual "gaming" and that's all that matters to you as being next gen? Please tell us how this marvelous device has made such a huge difference in the actual game play of any AAA title so far.

kreate4410d ago

i wonder whose actually complaining about kinect?
is it the ps fanboys? or the ppl who actually want to buy a kinectless x1 for $400?

Anon19744410d ago (Edited 4410d ago )

Georgeenoob said "Microsoft WILL NOT unbundle Kinect, no matter how badly the PS fanbase wants them to."

This left me puzzled. Why would the PS fanbase want the Kinect unbundled, exactly? I'm not following the train of thought here. How would that benefit them in any way, shape or form?

As for the "you wait and see" attitude towards Kinect, you do realize the Kinect was released in 2010, right? It sold around 24 million units and had quite an install base and guess what? Developers at large didn't exactly throw their weight behind the accessory, despite the large install base. What on earth makes you think developers are suddenly keen to spend resources making games for Kinect 2.0 now?

Honest question. If they didn't do it for 24 million Kinects out in the wild, what makes you think they'll suddenly support this time out? Even though the unit is more advanced, what's do you think has changed in terms of developer attitudes towards the device?

k3rn3ll4410d ago

Honestly I dont see how people can say MS is losing the sales war when they are only in 16 countries compared to 50 a ps4. With that in perspective, 4.5 million to 7 doesnt sound bad at all

Sarcasm4410d ago

k3rn3ll

Because those market are extremely small for the xbox brand so it wouldn't make a difference. The two BIGGEST markets was the US and UK which last generation it dominated by at least a 40%-50% lead.

This time around, they are being outsold in those two territories as well as the rest of the world.

UltraNova4410d ago (Edited 4410d ago )

This opinion piece is bullshit. He actually wrote a huge article just to say that the ONLY reason Ps4 is selling more is the lower price (not to say that it doesn't help but its far from the only reason). The rest of the points made where just stealth fillers.

No my friend the actual reasons (yes plural) for the ps4's lead is Sony and their proven loyalty to their customer, their amazing and far more diverse library of exclusives that we all know is coming, PSN's value overshadows that of XBL any day just on free games alone, then comes the icing on the cake, the fact that you get more hardware with less money!

All points above where the same for last gen except for the price. PS3 was more expensive for the whole duration and it still outsold the 360 worldwide (where it matters most)even after launching a year later BECAUSE they had the right strategy.

Sony's strategy worked in the past and it will work this time simply because its pro-consumer.

mkis0074410d ago (Edited 4410d ago )

@ k3rn3ll

US sells 20-40 million plus

UK+europe sells 20-30 million plus

Japan sells under 10 million (360 under 2 million

Rest of world is around 10 million

THese are the breakdowns of the ps3 and 360 generation. Notice the places where MS has released have the bulk of sales?

For the total generation you are looking at 10-15 million maximum consoles sold in the places they aren't already out. (extremely generous seeing how low Japan will be)

This early in the gen they would sell 500,000-800,000 more max if they all the sudden launched in those countries. Then take away some because the xbox one media functionality is meant for the US.

gaffyh4410d ago

I would consider buying a Kinect-less Xbox One, because it would mean that I would never have to have it connected. I just don't have the space for it, and it is putting me off buying the console itself. If it was unbundled, then that would mean that MS would have to take into account those who don't have it, and you wouldn't miss out on any major games because they wouldn't want to split the fanbase, although I guess that is also one of the reasons why MS wants to keep it bundled.

I still think it there will be a Kinectless bundle announced, probably at E3.

Boody-Bandit4410d ago (Edited 4410d ago )

@kreate
"i wonder whose actually complaining about kinect? is it the ps fanboys?"

I have an X1 and I haven't used Kinect in months. It just doesn't work in my particular setup with triple panel displays and multiple sound sources running at the same time. The only way the voice commands work is if I mute all the audio sources and than speak. It's just not worth the effort when the controller works better and without hiccups.

So no, it's not PS fanboys. It's consumers that don't see a need to have this device that isn't necessary and adds next to nothing that can't be done better on a controller or a mic plugged into the system or controller. I mean seriously, what's the point? And all of that at increased cost to have a device and uses up system resources to function.

The implementation of a mandatory Kinect, IMO, was MS's biggest mistake with the X1. Add in the policies they were initially going to implement? And here we are.

This whole generation with MS is going to be an also ran going up against Sony when it could've and should've been an epic battle.

But Kinect is far from the only reason Sony is so far out in front. MS needs to stop focusing so much money on marketing and gimmicks (this has nearly always been MS's MO - modus operandi) and more money on gaming and devices that add to the immersion level of gaming. Kinect isn't it.

Visiblemarc4410d ago

@Georgeenoob

Your comments always tend to lean toward irrational fanboy rants, so probably no point responding to you...but one thing you said was particularly baffling.

When you say: Ms will not unbundle Kinect no matter how badly the Sony fanbase wants them to. You do realize that people saying MS should drop kinect believe it is their key to greater retail success. Why would the "PS fanbase" want that?

It just doesn't make sense. I'm so tired of how having an opinion about a product or company gets a person mobbed with accusations of fanboyism.

Despite what you and some extremists think, the vast majority of people here are video game fans and come here to hear about, and discuss the industry. All of it. Most of us aren't obsessing about one brand and don't have dark agendas.

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GamersHeaven4410d ago

I am sure they will Microsoft have no choice but to unbundle sure as hell wont drop the price after Titanfall failed to be the big console seller they where hoping it would be and with investor very unpleased about the money they have lost with the Xbox over the years.

n4rc4410d ago

Ahh.. So you know microsofts hopes and dreams.. And also read the minds of ms investors raking in cash year after year?

And they have plenty of choice.. X1 is selling faster then any Xbox before it.. Just because some have a weird vested interest in who comes out on top doesn't mean 2nd isn't a success.

shadyiswin4410d ago

i love how big a failure titanfall was..... but infamous was amazingly sucessful. Only problem is titanfall is obliterating infamous and is despite a 2 million console gap.

Xbox one is selling extremely well dispite how this will love you think no one wants one,the forza and titanfall bundles are flying off shelves in my store. Once people under stand youre getting $60 game and a $150 kinect for $449 they see the value,not to mention the ps4 just cant do half the things the xb1 does.

Why o why4410d ago

'Once people under stand youre getting $60 game and a $150 kinect for $449 they see the value,not to mention the ps4 just cant do half the things the xb1 does.'

Please do tell us half of these things the ps4 can't do the x1 can..........really interested to know.

miyamoto4410d ago

Like I said so many times before, M$ CAN NOT DISCONNECT Kinect from the Xbox One because of so many partnership contracts they have with other data and information farming companies out there. So many millions of dollars are invested into this contraption.

PSVita4410d ago

The thing is they had THREE YEARS to test it out and realize it wouldn't work next gen. Sony had MOVE and it failed so they pretty much let it go. But instead of just supporting the kinect like MS should have, they forced it on us and said #dealwithit. If there wasn't an added $100 NO ONE WOULD CARE but they're making us pay for something we don't want or need.

TitanUp4410d ago

x1 owners have told me its easier to navigate the dashboard with kinect than the controller.

ape0074410d ago

yes it has some cool features but it's in no way shape or form worthy of having it mandatory

BitbyDeath4410d ago

Switching Kinect out with a microphone will make the system a lot cheaper and leave 95% of Kinects main functionality in tact.

Pogmathoin4410d ago

Telling the X1 to turn on in total darkness is awesome, it recognizes you and signs you in automatically...... It feels like air is the mouse to a laptop....

A012345674410d ago

That really says more about how poorly designed their menu is when they use the controller than a testament to the kinect...

Silly Mammo4410d ago

And yet MS is now selling a X1 remote control.

Allsystemgamer4410d ago (Edited 4410d ago )

And IMO if you have to use voice to do something as simple as UI navigation you have some bad UI

@below

I can do the exact same thing on ps4. If I'm browsing the net or Netflix I can just press the ps button and open what ever game I left off at...

n4rc4410d ago

It is easier..

When I'm watching TV, I say Xbox play titanfall and what do ya know?

I'm instantly in the multiplayer menu, right where I left off..

Quicker and easier then anyone else can do it ;)

SilentGuard4410d ago

yeh, probobly becuase MS designed it that way. develop a clunky dashboard that purposely makes using a controller harder to use than justify Kinect by showing how much easier it makes navigation.

ger23964410d ago

So that's worth an extra $100?

n4rc4410d ago

Add in 1080p Skype and controlling my TV (a mic isn't a ir blaster) plus signing me into xbl automatically....

Yep.. Very much worth $100

BG115794410d ago (Edited 4410d ago )

@Skype and everything else is behind the xbox live pay-wall, so it ends up being more than 100$...

Oh and you can signing using camera on the PS4 too.

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supersonicjerry4410d ago

the system is so much easier and better with the kinect trust me! I was going to get it without the kinect but target had that good deal for 450 so i bought it and i can't imagine it without the kinect. its kind of dumb to not get the kinect with the system because it makes it so much easier and better

-Foxtrot4410d ago

It's not the point, many people such as myself don't want to use Kinect at all. A standard controller is perfectly fine and has been fine for years.

It's only better getting around the dashboard because it was created with Kinect in mind. It's up to Microsoft to bring out an update alongside the Kinect-less bundle to make it more controller friendly.

" I was going to get it without the kinect "

If you had a choice then I don't think that we would be having this conversation.

I honestly don't care how nice it is to use around the dashboard, I care about the games and because the controller is superior and always will be to Kinect thats what matters. Not how easy it is to flick through Facebook or have a gander at Netflix

air14410d ago

Foxtrot

Everyone that has xb1 is quite happy with it and enjoy how well kinect works.. Clearly kinect working we'll has no effect in your decision at all you just have some built up hatred towards kinect...

I do not like self entitled ppl like you at all and I'm sure I'm not the only one so why don't you do everyone a favour and just stick with your ps4..

SilentGuard4410d ago

How exactly were you going to buy an Xbone without Kinect? I don't know they ever offered one without it

supersonicjerry4410d ago

@SilentGuard amazon bro it was everything minus the kinect for 350.

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Bigpappy4410d ago (Edited 4410d ago )

This sounds like republicans trying to get rid of Obamacare.

If you guys want to believe that the reason X1 is being outsold by PS 4 is because M$ included a camera, you can go ahead and make fools of yourselves.

If M$ were to remove it, they would become the next Wii you. People who aren't buying because it has Kinect, wouldn't buy it without Kinect. The games you want to play would be the same games. Travis thoroughly the most nonsensical comment I hear from the PlayStation farm (and we all know there are many of those).

How many price cuts would it take for Kinect to be considered free? Getting rid of Kinect would hurt not help X1. The best thing M$ could do to close the sales gap, would be to hurry up and get DX12 on X1, if that would have graphics as shiny on X1 as they are on PS4. Kit is actually a non issue . If price is the issue, they could fix the price and absorb the lost due to Kinect. But if cameras stopped people from buying products, tablets, smart phones and laptops would all be off the market.

You young people seem to lack the ability to think for yourselves. This me too, sheep mentality is very telling.

-Foxtrot4410d ago

"If you guys want to believe that"

I never once said I did believe that was the reason, re-read my comment again please. I never once said "It's being outsold because of Kinect".

"If M$ were to remove it, they would become the next Wii U"

Then it's their job NOT to become the next Wii U.

"People who aren't buying because it has Kinect, wouldn't buy it without Kinect"

Really? Your going to generalize making it look like you know for a fact thats what would happen. I'm pretty sure a lot of people would buy one if they unbundled Kinect, I'm GUESSING a lot of people, like myself, don't like paying extra for something they'll never use or want to use.

It could go for £200 and even then you would still be thinking "But if it didn't have Kinect it would be £140" for example.

Omegasyde4410d ago

"The best thing M$ could do to close the sales gap, would be to hurry up and get DX12 on X1, if that would have graphics as shiny on X1 as they are on PS4. "

....and I stopped reading your comment right there.

Wow, now console sales are going to increase when a graphical API releases?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I better save the date lmao

Automatic794410d ago (Edited 4410d ago )

I agree bigpap,

Kinect is a great device. The games are not yet there but there is no denying how smooth it is used for Xbox live. What I don't get is the amount of hate from Sony fan boys they praise VR and don't have one real experience from it. Kinect is already proven a worthy companion for example recording game clips, voice commands (RYSE),Skype, motion gaming. Granted we need more experiences with Kinect which D4, Fantasia music evolved are examples, tru Id@xbox game, and more but we don't want it forced upon in games but something that feels natural. I for one can't wait to see where it goes.

Ginesis4410d ago

Your comment should of been the end of this discussion cause it made soo much sense. +bubbles for you.

SilentGuard4410d ago

I would buy it without Kinect. $350 would be a fair price for Xbone with Kinect being thrown in for free. The console should be $350 becuase relative to more powerful PS4 has cheaper memory and GPU.

BX814410d ago

@ foxtrot
Then clearly bigpappy wasn't talking to you.

On a side note for all of you who want to come in here to bash the xb1 and kinect, this article has 82 comments at this moment. There are currently 10 articles on the homepage about the PS4 and all of them don't even have as many comments as this article. Go show those articles some love instead of bringing your negativity in here.

#TheTruthLikeA.I.

Sheikh Yerbouti4410d ago

I can buy a webcam for $15. The optional PS3 camera is only $60...? You have to assume the Kinect is $100 at least by comparing price.

deester4410d ago

it not just the camera it is the fact that kinect adds nothing for the extra 100.00 let MS lower the price to match with ps 4 and I personally would still not buy one because it is under powered they sold there soul to add the kinect put 3 year old tech in the ram and killed the system .it will never match the ps 4 it will never be next gen unless they revise it and add faster ram

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air14410d ago (Edited 4410d ago )

Can you please stop with your rant on how you would buy xb1 if it was sold with out kinect..

If you simply can't afford it now then just wait for the price drop, it happens every gen... Stop trying to make it how you feel it should be sold especially since you have no consideration on how well it works..

Omegasyde4410d ago

I'm logical.

I might buy an Xbox when the new Halo comes out. Hopefully it's with a larger scale like 16 vs 16.

SilentGuard4410d ago

yep, people should be happy to spend an extra $150 for the console to have Kinect included. Especially if your someone like myself that doesn't use Skype, or care to ever record game clips, or has no interest in motion gaming. Really makes a consumer feal like he's getting a deal.

air14410d ago

Silentguard

We'll if that's how you look at it and feel like that's the only thing worth mentioning that kinect is capable of then wait until the console drops 150$..

I get why you don't like it but unlike you I do like kinect and would love the tech to grow to its potential the damn thing has only been out a few months! I also like the full support ms has for kinec if they get that killer app everyone will have a kinect and things will be like the mic situation of last gen.

mt4410d ago

I think Microsoft knows about kinect issue but you know it was planned for a long time to include it. I mean if you think about it, they spend millions investing in this tech, and they want to force it into X1.

Lucreto4410d ago

I think it will be down to how much of a financial hit they are willing to take of the removal of the Kinect.

They have invested millions in the tech and at one point was the driver of the new console but dropping of the Kinect would signal it was a failure and the shareholders would not be happy losing that money.

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amazinglover4410d ago

They won't have a kinect less version that would admit defeat and hurt them more. I do expect a disc less version that will give them an excuse to sell it cheaper with out seeming as if they are cutting prices out of fear of losing the console war.

randomass1714410d ago

I agree. A cheaper SKU without Kinect is probably what a lot of people are waiting for.

MikeGdaGod4410d ago

$350 for a Kinect-less XBone....i'd "jump in".....

Castle3334410d ago

"No you wouldnt" you have NO intentions of ever buying an xbox one. That's what xboners say everytime someone mentiones kinect is useless for them.

That_Guy2u24410d ago

@georgenoob

*cough* *cough* Drm *cough* *cough* yea i dont tae microsofts word anymore

Jonny5isalive4410d ago

I don't see why they wouldn't un-bundle it for the cheaper model, they sold a 360 without a HD for cheaper and it cost them alot of digital sales probably. This move would get them sales and wouldnt loose any because anyone who wanted a kinnect could still get one. I wont buy an xbox1 with a kinnect ever. I may get an xbox1 someday for cheap, as I got both previous xbox early in their lives, but not if it comes with kinnect and costs more than 300$.

Ive never liked kinnect or other motion games besides wii sports a little. I just dont know why they force you to buy it and then release almost no games on it. It can be used for some games, but there are not many games being made for kinnect anymore(3rd parties stopped trying). For some reason they will not make a light gun game like TIME CRISIS where you use your furniture for cover. That is the only game I would ever wannt a kinnect for.

MS SAYS "You want an xbox1 you must buy this kinnect and then have the option to buy 2-3 horrible games a year for it."

ITPython4410d ago

Kinect is essentially the same thing as the SixAxis controls that Sony introduced with the PS3 controller. Sony had high hopes and hyped it as ground-breaking, but in the end it was something that nobody really wanted or cared about, and few developers even used it (was always annoying to use, even with first-party games who tried to use it in more interesting ways).

The best use for the sixaxis controls since the introduction of it on the PS3 is in Infamous:SS, where it is used like you are holding a spray-paint can. It is executed brilliantly without feeling like an annoying after-thought like it did all last-gen on the PS3. It was the first time since early 2007 that I have enjoyed using the sixaxis controls.

But the big difference between the Sixaxis controls in the PS3 controller and the Kinect, is that it didn't cost extra. Whereas the Kinect may be upping the price of the XB1 by almost $100, whether you want Kinect or not.

SpinalRemains1384410d ago

Blazing angels with SIXAXIS was sick!

Actually one of my favorite gaming experiences. Aside from that there was nothing else, but flying through that ice cave, fighting enemies and using the sixaxis was really awesome.

Matt6664410d ago

I have both a PS4 and a Xbox One, and I don't even have my kinect plugged into my Xbox One, I not going to use it anytime soon, if anything they should of sold kinect as a separate item.

Gamer19824410d ago

Failure?? Hmm over 25 million people bought Kinect for 360.. Sure 20 million of them realized it was a piece of crap AFTER they bought it.. But MS just sees that it sold 25 million which taking dead consoles into consideration is nearly half of 360 owners. MS refuse to believe its not as great as they want it to be. They just look at sales numbers and 1 in 2 people wanting Kinect in their eyes. That's the real issue.

CJDUNCAN4410d ago

it's a $100 sign in tool honestly. I barely use it, maybe to initiate recording sometimes, but outside of that it's just plugged in for no reason other then signing in on startup.

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF4410d ago

Sales didn't matter to PS3 fans when they lost over 24 months in a row to the xbox 360.

They matter now though.

Kavorklestein4410d ago (Edited 4410d ago )

Yeah.. I have said the same thing time and time again. And Just like PS fans think MS fans are blind or are too trusting, MS fan felt the same way about PS fans last gen..
So it's a crapshoot, and we'll just have to see how it goes... I think if people really were meant to care so much about how many of whatever console sell, then they should be going out and BUYING consoles for the less fortunate.. Arguing who or what is better doesn't help us as gamers.. Now a rich douchebag being willing to GO BUY a PS4/XB1 for his buddies IS going to help his platform of choice, AND help his gaming community to attract new fans and devotion to a certain brand. I think people aren't taking advantage of the time they have. They could be spreading the word about how cool a game console is buy buying it for a friend or family member. If you wouldn't buy the exact same console TWICE whether to replace yours, or for a friend, then you probably don't have as much faith in it as you claim.
I mean, If a game is good, you'll buy the HD remake of it right?
Why not the same with consoles?
If you like it that much, then buy it, and help others buy theirs/enjoy theirs with more games, etc..
Don't wast time trying to fight tooth and nail about preference.

I mean we don't see people in a grocery store parking lot screaming at each other because one person drives a Mustang, and the other person drives a Corvette, do we?

If you wanna try to control/convince people, then buy them that game system, otherwise, give opinions, not lectures...
That's where I'm going with gaming forums/comments from now on... Let's just live and let live, and of course we can be impressed/disappointed etc, but keep it intelligent, and let's definitely not knock things we haven't tried, or just because we PREFER something else...

TheXgamerLive4410d ago

Hahaha again the only people to complain about ANYTHING Xbox is sony fanboys. The Kinect is a huge success and those that have Xbox One enjoy it for many reasons gaming and non gaming.

deester4410d ago

you are wrong I have the 360 and at least 150 games for it but have never had the kinect for me it is useless and I will not be forced to buy it to get the xbox one when ms comes to there senses and stops forcing it down our necks I will buy one maybe

CJDUNCAN4410d ago

I love my xbox one but the kinect has been pretty useless so far for me.

headblackman4410d ago (Edited 4410d ago )

how about just wait for them to make the x1 the same price as the ps4 and keep the kinect in and if you don't want to use it, you can just put the kinect in the closet until you find something that will interest you in using it? i say that to say, that your issue isn't with the kinect device, because it's a device of innovation, but rather pricing. so why encourage them to abandon something that's actually good for the system rather than encouraging them to lower the price? that's rather odd. no one is encouraging sony to drop the price of their online back to free and no one is giving them a fit over that!

GordonKnight4410d ago

Agree

It's the same reason Naughty Dog said TLOU wasn't coming to the PS4. Same goes for RockStar with GTA V.

ChickenOfTheCaveMan4410d ago

They should have done this the minute the console got out. They try to sell this thing based on voice commands, which could be done through a 10$ mic.

The camera itself sounds great, but it's almost useless in gaming, that's why Nintendo and Sony passed on this technology and why team Xbox should have done the same.

It's really ludicrous that they sacrificed power(ram+cpu) for this useless feature.

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digim04411d ago

I don't know if i'd call it "well planned" but I agree. I'd be surprised if they don't ditch the Kinect in the future. It's obvious from the growing sales gap they need to.

Veneno4410d ago

I've said it before Phil spencer's first duty in office is to get a kinectless Xbone out to retail and drop that price. But even then it would only serve to partially lessen the sales gap agajnst PS4. Then his next duty is to convince buyers to believe xbone is the better console. But will he do it the Microsoft way by trickery? Or will he actually make xbone a truly better console.

Castle3334410d ago

Their only option is games, games and more games.

Excalibur4410d ago

I waiting for the "slim" model with no Kinect and a 1tb HDD.
It will happen.

Gamer19824410d ago

In 4 years perhaps for the slim.. As for Kinectless?? The longer they leave it with Kinect the harder it will be to remove it as devs are currently working on games with Kinect in there minds thinking its on EVERY console. If they dropped it they would lose developer faith. Ask Nintendo what having 3rd partys turn on you is like... It's not pretty losing 3rd partys.

D3ATH_DRIV3R_7774410d ago

I'm sorry, but as a proud PS4 owner, i have to say that *KINECT IS A FAILURE* part is just a bit crossing the line for XBOX ONE owners! i wouldn't count them out just yet as far as the KINECT goes. MS is armed with a big fat wallet and they'll crank out some games for it that will make it impressive to use. *KINECT IS A FAILURE* , really? who comes up with this stuff?

digim04410d ago

Exactly. You're a PS4 owner. Use a Kinect and you'll see it doesn't bring a whole lot to the table. It might be good someday, but for now it's keeping Microsoft from offering a more competitive price and from launching the Xbox One in a lot of European markets.

Summons754410d ago

The only two games on the 360 Kinect we're Dance Central and Gunstringer, everything else was either hyped up and failed or just a great idea on paper but bad in practice.

Here we are with the superior Kinect 2 and all we have is Kinect Sports Rivals. MS has put more focus into kinect being used to move menus around then they have promoting games for it. Even Ryse was going to be a Kinect game but then switched to a messy controller based game because of the little interest in Kinect.

For either side of the field, Sony or MS, there really is no defending the Kinect and this is coming from someone who bought a kinect on the 360 day one and kept it for years. Sony gave up on the move because there wasn't much interest in it and most games that had it compatible weren't that great in move mode.

ghostface94410d ago

they gave up on the move cause it was trash im getting fru and d4 to go with my kinect

That_Guy2u24410d ago

the last kinect was perfectly fine and the only enjoyment i got out of it was 10 mins of dance central every couple months

zeusky4410d ago

id be willing to bet there are more people who use the kinect voice controls everyday than people who play their ps4 everday

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user95970824410d ago

Your article is bad and you should feel bad.

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA16d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY16d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay16d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos16d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7216d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY16d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator16d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum16d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z16d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad17d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga17d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot16d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose17d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE17d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername16d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy17d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde17d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8617d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8617d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole17d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300017d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot17d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle17d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7717d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments