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Extra Punctuation The Totally Hipster Elements in inFamous: Second Son

On the outset, the concept of the inFamous games is that there is such a thing as a 'conduit', a superhuman with the ability to absorb a specific element and use it as they please. Cole MacGrath in the first two games was Mr. Electropants, he used bolts of lightning offensively and could fly by some process probably involving magnetism. Other people had powers over ice and fire and stuff like that. That all made sense, broadly speaking.

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SpinalRemains1384422d ago (Edited 4422d ago )

Neon doesn't need electricity.

The glow is a result of the gas being heated. Current is just a means to that end. Plasma like if you will. So Delsin is emitting heated neon gas.

You're thinking way too hard here.

Ironically enough, the author seems rather hipster-ish with their wrong assumptions.

Allsystemgamer4422d ago

He's really lost his touch. His complaints now are just petty and ridiculous. I may not like ryse but one of his arguments was not being able to go anywhere he wanted past fences that were clearly put in to narrow the player to go the right way.

His infamous "review" was just dumb.

KonsoruMasuta4422d ago

I think Ryse being too linear was a understandable complaint.

Allsystemgamer4422d ago

I never said being linear was good but the examples were bad. I know many people who stopped with Yahtzee a while ago due to him literally hating nearly everything. It was funny at first but now it's just nonsense.

thorstein4422d ago

Yes. This guy is way too nitpicky. First he claims SP is being hipster...Delsin? Really? In Seattle? More grunge if anything and Grunge is the polar opposite of Hipster.

Second (pun intended)he claims that they should "stick to the elements" but then smoke (fire) and Neon ("Ne" on the periodic table of ELEMENTS) apparently isn't elemental enough for him.

Then he claims Neon must use electricity to "work." Not sure if he understand the properties of living matter or if he is just trolling for hits... Yep, yet another hipster troll trolling for hits like only a hipster can.

Video may not be elemental, but in a way it is what RPGs would call the ether. It is certainly ethereal, especially since radio waves are actually a part of the natural universe.

But, like I said, this is just another hipster troll trying to be "too cool" about a medium which he clearly doesn't understand.

coolbeans4418d ago

@thorstein

"Yes. This guy is way too nitpicky. First he claims SP is being hipster...Delsin? Really? In Seattle? More grunge if anything and Grunge is the polar opposite of Hipster."

From my understanding, "hipster" is just all about following a trend instead of being an actual part of that culture. Perhaps he just felt it was more of a pretender when it came to the "grunge-y" elements instead of truly embodying it. Haven't played the title so can't say for sure, but that's how I interpret his reaction.

(Sorry with late reply)

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LightofDarkness4421d ago (Edited 4421d ago )

Ok, I actually agree with him on this part. Yes, Neon glows when heated considerably. However, it is presented much in the manner of glowing neon signs, which require a small electrical filament and a container to hold their shape. If it were to behave as a gas it would simply disperse before he could do anything meaningful with it. So how is he heating the gas? Body heat won't do it. They make it clear that he can only absorb and control one power at a time, so it's not smoke. It's just an excuse for them to use pretty lights and particles. Also, how would you lasso someone with heated neon gas, no less disintegrate them from head to toe? And how would it create a stasis bubble, which appears to create some form of time dilation? Is that a property of neon gas?

I'm all for sci-fi, but the devs went a bit esoteric and liberal with the powers and elements here. Paper is not an element. Smoke is not an element, contrary to what thorstein said above, and nor is fire. Fire is some fuel burning oxygen. Smoke is a bunch of particulates blowing away in the air as a result of that reaction. So if it's fire, why not just call it fire?

Video is the daftest thing I've ever seen. I don't care how good you are at manipulating radio waves, you aren't going to construct a physically existent army of angels with them. There are a number of cool things you could do with ability to manipulate radio waves and such, but that's no one of them.

All the powers basically boiled down to primary shot, grenade, rocket and screen clearer. A bit more imagination would have been nice, besides just changing how all of those things looked.

thorstein4421d ago

Contrary to what you claim, in ancient mythology there were said to be five elements: fire, water, air, earth and ether.

That is what the author and I were referring to. However, to claim Neon isn't an element is erroneous. Certainly, you have a point with paper, but you completely lost the point that most of the powers deal with the natural world, and that includes radio waves.

Drenchk1014421d ago

What you guys are missing here is that inFamous Second Son is just a game. I personally like the distinct powers and such in the game, it's unique, sure I found the video power a little odd and I personally don't like it very much, but at least SP took the liberty to make some unique powers for a superpowered hero/villain. How typical would it be if they just used electricity, fire, water, earth, etc. but just in a new $70 game? These powers are in practically every RPG with magic elements and such, and I don't mind seeing something new. I'm not disagreeing with you guys on the point of it being odd and weird, but as unrealistic as it is, it's just a video game. I love the game because of how fantastic the visuals are and the gameplay is good (but not as good as 2's imo), but other than that, it's a fantastic PS4 exclusive.

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-Foxtrot675d ago

They really need to

Go off the evil ending off Second Son

Delsin absorbs all those powers

Revealed he’s the real Beast and John in Infamous 2 was just an anomaly created by timelines being messed with by Kessler.

Cole vs the Real Beast

gold_drake675d ago

quite honestly, i dont remember a whole lot about 2 amymore, but i absolutely hated the guy in second son haha.

chicken_in_the_corn674d ago

It would make more sense to go off the evil ending of 2 and the good ending g of SS where Cole is The Beast.

Cacabunga673d ago

Doesnt make any sense calling second son 2 as infamous 3..

OtterX674d ago

Ha, yea Delsin was obnoxious.

I wouldn't mind another new character, but somehow bring Cole into the story.

We can just pretend like Delsin never existed. :)

thejigisup674d ago

Everyone that age is obnoxious. It's been years and is like to think delsin has grown

neutralgamer1992674d ago

Until we wait for a potential new entry it would awesome to have infamous collection for PS5

RaidenBlack674d ago

Umm ... how about this?
First we get the Tushima sequel(coz its most rumored)
Then a new Resistance (need new PS SP FPS)
Then a totally new IP (new IPs are always interesting)
And then a new inFamous?

Pepsi_Man3000674d ago

resistance is insomniac I think

xHeavYx674d ago

Can we also get a complete remaster of InFamous 1 and 2?

fr0sty673d ago

Gimme a new Warhawk and MAG while we're at it.

DivineHand125674d ago

I had a great time with the second son. Never got to play the originals and hope they get remastered one day.

DazaMc674d ago

The graphics were amazing, I got the platinum on that one. Very good.

ChasterMies674d ago (Edited 674d ago )

If I had a choice between another Infamous game and another Spider-Man game, I choose Spider-Man. Sony should spend its resources on its winners.

Tacoboto674d ago (Edited 674d ago )

Infamous was such a winner its studio was given the freedom (after 3 titles + their expansions) to do a new IP with GoT, just like with Sly Cooper before infamous.

I'd welcome a 4th title even more than another Spider-Man, it'd be exciting what they could do with new powers fit for the hardware outside the limits of a licensed superhero game.

jznrpg674d ago

Spider-Man is guaranteed and is made by Insomniac so why not both as Sucker Punch would make Infamous.

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