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VR vs. Kickstarter - Are developers taking advantage of us?

VRFocus - Kickstarter can be a brilliant thing. As an innovative website that lets people pitch product ideas and have fans pledge donations of their choosing, it makes all kinds of unique videogames, peripherals and just about everything else possible when investor’s risk assessments don’t turn out favourably. Not to mention that it allows creators to retain complete control of their vision and, for better or worse, reduces financial pressures upon those makers. Indeed, virtual reality (VR) itself owes a huge debt to the platform; without it we may have never seen the Oculus Rift VR headset that has spearheaded the technology’s revival following a 2012 campaign that raised over $2 million USD.

micx4428d ago

Some for sure are, but Kickstarter is still a brilliant place for all the enthusiastic developers looking for a breakthrough.

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randomass1714428d ago

Depends on how you look at it. If a company asks for crowdfunding to make something and they blatantly don't deliver, then yes they probably took advantage. But with the case of, for example, Exploding Rabbit and Super Retro Squad, that was just a poorly planned situation that went badly. They were pretty honest and upfront about what went wrong with the development of their game and now they're taking money out of their own pockets to get refunds to their backers. Very unfortunate, but the silver lining is not all crowdfunded games end up that way. A Hat in Time looks so cool and has Alpha updates every few months and Broken Age from Double Fine, while it had its issues, still got released and is apparently a lot of fun. :)

OC_MurphysLaw4428d ago

I have long felt Kickstarter more or less is taking advantage of the consumer by getting you to buy into a promise. This isn't specific to games mind you ...its the whole kickstarter model

JBSleek4428d ago

It's a website for donations essentially. If people get mad because they gave donations to ideas then that is silly.

Kickstarter isn't an investment site. You may receive the product that you are backing but there is no guarantee.

You aren't owed anything on Kickstarter so people shouldn't feel obligated for anything.

randomass1714428d ago

I've backed a bunch of things and I don't expect them to be guaranteed successes. That all said, I have yet to back anything that hasn't come to fruition. A Hat in Time and Mighty No. 9 have some time before they are due. And if they don't come through, they apparently are legally obligated to supply a refund. It's somewhere in the Kickstarter terms agreement.

OC_MurphysLaw4428d ago

I do understand its not an "investment" legally as you actually are buying something of "value" in turn for your pledge.

However, I think the reality of what Kickstarter actually is vs what they legally try to present is very different. Kickstarter is basically a crowd sourced VC Fund. Yes, you get something for the money you front them but those funds are are given to support the idea and eventual end product much more than for the promise you buy on the pledge level.

With VC funding if you convince a VC to back you then you get funding if not, you don't. On kickstarter you have a set level of pledge that needs to hit in order for you to get the funds. If you meet that level then you get you money. Reaching your kickstarter goal is the equivalent of convincing a VC to fund you. Basically the kickstarter has convinced enough people about their idea to get money. They are skirting the laws around investment by saying for that X amount of dollars we will give you "xyz".

I think there needs to be a more strict set of guidelines applied to Kickstarter and possibly the acknowledgement that this is indeed some kind of limited investment vs purchase.

Its just a murky as hell area that already has seen exploitation by some.

cogniveritas4428d ago

I wouldn't call it "taking advantage" as long as the consumer participation is voluntary. I tend to chip in to kickstarters for visual artists product's and band albums. I haven't been let down yet.

hkgamer4428d ago

not really taking advantage. It's more like a safer option. Some people take out loans, mortgages etc... to get the investment for their businesses, which is a huge risk for something that may not succeed. Kickstarter just gives the people an initial investment to start their product, hence the name kickstarter.

The ones that fail after getting the kickstarter money is normally the ones that don't budget accordingly. They also have to be cautious once they finish their game. Who will actually buy the game? A big chunk of their audience already bought their game so will there be anymore?

DanielGearSolid4428d ago

It can't be considered taking advantage, because you get a reward for your donation, and thats all they're obligated to give you

And as a backer, you are aware of that going in

aliengmr4428d ago

That is true, but the article referred to an instance where a developer is adding a pretty extreme stretch goal for OR support.

I think its treading really close to "cashing in" territory, rather than a "We have to have X amount to do this" thing.

I don't know, but it is something these devs should be cautious of.

randomass1714428d ago

Gotta watch out; some Kickstarters are indeed scams. But don't let the bad eggs deter you from the honest work that has gone into the website.

blackmanone4428d ago

You're investing into something where you have no investor rights or privileges. Of course they're taking advantage of you.

JBSleek4428d ago

Donating*

Investing implies that you are entitled to compensation or receiving something in return, which you have no right to do.

Kickstarter isn't the stock market.

SilentNegotiator4428d ago

If you're giving willfully to something that might not pan out, no one is taking advantage of you.

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