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Infamous Needs to be Reinvented

Infamous: Second Son is a pretty good game. Though I didn’t care much for the plot, I still enjoyed my time grabbing new superpowers, traipsing around virtual Seattle, and fighting the dastardly Department of Unified Protection (DUP). That said, the biggest impression I’m left with after completing the “good” path of the storyline and running around finishing some post-game objectives is that Infamous is a series in need of some substantial re-thinking.

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ATi_Elite4444d ago

Make it more of an adventure game where you explore the Huge Sandbox world thus making all areas accessible but your chances of surviving those areas depending on your characters skill level.

example if you haven't mastered flying or super jump then you can still get on roof tops but you will not be able to go from roof top to roof top thus finding the secret cloud world and leveling up your fire ball powers even more.

*secret cloud world was just an OFF hand example I know this is NOT SUper Mario.

iamnsuperman4444d ago

I think the only issue with that is it would need no structure to work which in term means it won't work. If it had structure you would need to level up your character to a certain level to survive. This could get extremely tiring and boring as you get to the appropriate level of a power to survive in a certain area but then need to refocus to survive in another area. If the game had no structure then what is the point of progressing. I also think this would be hard to implement correctly.

I think inFAMOUS could benefit from an extended upgrade tree (tailoring your own style as there would be a vast range of options). Also fixing certain issues the series has (empty world). I don't think inFAMOUS needs to be reinvented just refined and upgraded.

ATi_Elite4444d ago

When I say character level I don't mean Leveling up as in the typical "GRIND".

I hate games that make you Grind. STALKER had open levels but you just couldn't survive in them long without the proper gear and that meant finding it or buying it but nothing about STALKER was a GRIND as everything had a reason or a way of feeling important.

No boring repetitive grinding to level up, that crap is stupid.

SpiralTear4444d ago

I really liked the improved movement abilities in Second Son (very fluid and easy to navigate), but the whole "good path vs. bad path" morality idea feels very dated now. With games like The Walking Dead making morality so ambiguous and full of grey areas, the good-evil spectrum is more limiting than ever (not to mention that many powers are locked behind one kind of moral alignment).

Also, Delsin is not anywhere near as interesting a character as Cole. Cole evolved over the course of the first two games, while Delsin's main personality features could be learned within the first hour and didn't do too much to change.

I really like Infamous as a series. Free-roaming action sequences are awesome, but the things that made the series so iconic in the PS3 days don't seem to be cutting it now, at least not on their own.

Conzul4444d ago

I think the morality branches will remain bland and un-interesting until the series goes M-rated.

There's only so much emotional tug to be achieved from T-Rated morality.

I don't really see any other weaknesses in the franchise on the whole.

micx4444d ago

Why reinventing the wheel? It functions perfectly for now, at least until we'll be able to levitate.

Seraphim4444d ago

"Infamous: Second Son is a good game that suffers by refusing to try new things." that alone, to me gives this opinion little credit. Sucker Punch went from Electricity to providing the player w/ 4 powers. I'd say that's incredibly new for inFamous.

It does work. I have some trivial issues but some of those were alleviated once the next two powers were unlocked. Overall I thought it was a solid entry but I can't say I didn't miss Electricity. I mean Cole and his ability to ride the power lines was just too thrilling. None of the powers had that effect in Second Son. Although they were pretty cool in their own right. I don't think there's any need to reinvent inFamous but Sucker Punch definitely needs to take a hard look at making a more well rounded game and obviously which powers are used are going to be very important to any additional titles. Still Second Son was probably the 2nd best inFamous title imho so Sucker Punch delivered.

elninels4444d ago (Edited 4444d ago )

I agree it was an extremely FUN game. Nothing was new or mind melting, however the fast paced combat was just fun.

I do wish that powers had more diversity(all powers functioned almost exactly the same), and that the boss fights were more creative. The final one specifically. I would discuss it but that's npt fair to those who haven't played it yet.

Edit: some spelling errors.

marlinfan104444d ago

switching powers and adding a couple more is doing something incredibly new? its the same thing. thats like saying call of duty did something completely new this year by changing what guns they use.

Seraphim4444d ago (Edited 4444d ago )

I wouldn't consider it akin to switching guns. If that's your mindset then so be it. Your opinion but I don't see it or feel it that way. Switching powers and adding some was something incredibly new for the series. They stepped out and did something new is all I'm saying. Not only did they try something different but they gave you more than 1 power. Which is something Incredibly new to the series. Tagging, billboards, a lot of the game had the same premise as the first 2 but went about them in a different way. I'd certainly like to see more diversity and more to do. Though Assassins Creed and many other games fall into the same problem. To each his own but imo saying it's like changing guns is apples to oranges. Completely different.

maniacmayhem4444d ago

It needs to take a more Justice League route where your character goes up against a Legion of Doom or Brotherhood of Evil where your character fights other villains who have been gifted with powers by the ray sphere.

Then you have to recruit heroes to fight them. A free-roaming, inFamous RPG type of game...*drool*

CrossingEden4444d ago (Edited 4444d ago )

I think they seriously need to expand on side plots and supporting character quest lines. And they DEFINITELY need to bring factions back. Because the side content in infamous outside of Paper Trail missions are pretty lackluster and play it way too safe. (Btw, who immediately figured out that the paper conduit is the first prisoner at Curdon Cay who killed herself according to the audio logs, if this is supposed to be some big revelation it's very poorly handled in the game)

Replaying the game and critiquing it gives me the impression that they had to cut corners and cut out content that would've expanded on Eugene and Fetch. The first half hour makes you think you're gonna get engrossed in this coming of age cinematic superhero story but after that most of the important dialogue is relegated to in-game dialogue, we some cutscenes even being completely and utterly pointless and kind of a waste of a scene that's using full performance capture.
"Come on supergirl, got people to meet and powers to steal"
^ No point to this scene whatsoever besides being an indication that the mission started. It's just Delsin walking back and forth for ten seconds then it ends. Meanwhile, there's a line of dialogue in-game where Fetch is explaining what being imprisoned was like, while you're tailing a van and trying to keep up with someone who's running at light speed.

They did improve the narrative overall though with Delsin being a much more compelling and likeable protagonist than yet another shave headed brooding caucasian male with no personality and a gravelly voice. Cole isn't the worst protagonist ever but he sure isn't compelling or written as well as the big leagues of gaming.

And let's seriously stop it with the illusion of choice and very antiquated moral system that barely changes the game. Just let us decide at the beginning and then lock us in or get rid of it. And at the very least improve the writing so that the evil side doesn't feel like fanfiction.
"This move I like to call LAZER"
^ Makes me cringe every time I hear it.
That and the fact that Reggie still says "I'm so proud of you" after you kill countless civilians and cops.

This game is gonna get an awful lot of honorable mentions at the award shows this year instead of actual awards due to the faults stated above. I want them to do better, because this was a good first next gen entry, it's just not an AMAZING first next gen entry. So at the very least we can put our minds at ease that the only possible thing they can do now is take our feedback and give us a mind-blowing GOTY well written varied infamous game next time.

EDIT:Inb4 stealth disagrees from the trackers who never offer a rebuttal yet can't stand to see ps games get critiqued and analyzed.

iamnsuperman4444d ago (Edited 4444d ago )

I pretty much disagree with much of what you have said. I agree with the side missions and the other conduits missions but I feel the moral system offered much more with changing the way you play (it doesn't have to affect the story). I was much more careless and aggressive as Evil than the good route (the good route I was much more careful and dodging a lot). Moral decisions don't always have to effect story as long as it does something meaningful. I liked this approach

I think the narrative was of a lesser quality than inFAMOUS 1 or 2. The rushed the development of Deslin and his character progression was far too quick for me too care. Cole and his gang was a far more developed and interesting story. Cole was a hard character but I actually cared what happened to him in inFAMOUS 2's good ending (same with Zeke in the Evil ending). It was really sad because they developed Cole.

inFAMOUS Second Son also deserves recognition and accolades for its technical achievement. It is a stunningly fluid game

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-Foxtrot689d ago

They really need to

Go off the evil ending off Second Son

Delsin absorbs all those powers

Revealed he’s the real Beast and John in Infamous 2 was just an anomaly created by timelines being messed with by Kessler.

Cole vs the Real Beast

gold_drake689d ago

quite honestly, i dont remember a whole lot about 2 amymore, but i absolutely hated the guy in second son haha.

chicken_in_the_corn689d ago

It would make more sense to go off the evil ending of 2 and the good ending g of SS where Cole is The Beast.

Cacabunga688d ago

Doesnt make any sense calling second son 2 as infamous 3..

OtterX689d ago

Ha, yea Delsin was obnoxious.

I wouldn't mind another new character, but somehow bring Cole into the story.

We can just pretend like Delsin never existed. :)

thejigisup688d ago

Everyone that age is obnoxious. It's been years and is like to think delsin has grown

neutralgamer1992688d ago

Until we wait for a potential new entry it would awesome to have infamous collection for PS5

RaidenBlack689d ago

Umm ... how about this?
First we get the Tushima sequel(coz its most rumored)
Then a new Resistance (need new PS SP FPS)
Then a totally new IP (new IPs are always interesting)
And then a new inFamous?

Pepsi_Man3000688d ago

resistance is insomniac I think

xHeavYx688d ago

Can we also get a complete remaster of InFamous 1 and 2?

fr0sty688d ago

Gimme a new Warhawk and MAG while we're at it.

DivineHand125688d ago

I had a great time with the second son. Never got to play the originals and hope they get remastered one day.

DazaMc688d ago

The graphics were amazing, I got the platinum on that one. Very good.

ChasterMies688d ago (Edited 688d ago )

If I had a choice between another Infamous game and another Spider-Man game, I choose Spider-Man. Sony should spend its resources on its winners.

Tacoboto688d ago (Edited 688d ago )

Infamous was such a winner its studio was given the freedom (after 3 titles + their expansions) to do a new IP with GoT, just like with Sly Cooper before infamous.

I'd welcome a 4th title even more than another Spider-Man, it'd be exciting what they could do with new powers fit for the hardware outside the limits of a licensed superhero game.

jznrpg688d ago

Spider-Man is guaranteed and is made by Insomniac so why not both as Sucker Punch would make Infamous.

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