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I don't trust digital distribution

Ryan shares his fear on Digital Distribution using PSN as an example. What happens when the service gets shut off? What happens to your digital library of games?

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GarrusVakarian4418d ago

Physical all day everyday.

The only digital games i get are from PS plus. Nothing beats having a physical copy of your purchase to do with as you please.

ATi_Elite4417d ago (Edited 4417d ago )

Digital All day baby.

they are all stored on my massive 4 TB USB HDD. (how physical is that)

if that thing fails I have the important ones burned to Blu-rays PLuS my keys are stored on the cloud/notepad so I can download any game I have from any Free source and just stick my key in it.

Looking at a shelf full of media is nice but for ME i have no use for media so I'm getting rid of it.

I think back at people who had super large collections of VHS tapes, now those things are JUNK!

GarrusVakarian4417d ago (Edited 4417d ago )

That's cool, but for me, trading games in towards other games is really important. I trade in the vast, vast majority of games i buy. Out of the hundreds of games i bought last gen, i only kept around 10 of my all time favs.

I wouldn't be able to trade games in if i went all digital, so that's an instant no no.

BattleAxe4417d ago

Unfortunately, I decided to go digital on PS3 when full game releases started happening on a more regular basis.

I can say that I would never go digital on a console ever again, since you never know what Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo will do regarding digital backwards compatibility.

Fortunately I own two PS3s, and I will be upgrading each one to a 1TB HDD in order to back up every single bit of content that I have purchased over the years. I figure that this is the best solution in order to be able to ensure that I will have my PS3 games for many years to come, and I will still have the ability to play CDs, DVDs and BluRay movies, amongst other features that will keep the PS3 relevant in my home.

Bottom line is that the PS3 is probably the last console that I will ever buy, with the exception of a PS Vita if it ever gets supported with great triple A first party games like it should have been from the start.

Prime1574417d ago

They aren't junk if they still have avhs player. I'm sorry you trust everyone with your digital keys.. if they are drm-free and purchased legally, good for you. Otherwise, you are a cancer.

ShinMaster4417d ago (Edited 4417d ago )

As long as the option is still available, I will choose physical.

Going all digital years ago would've been nice. But games today are getting bigger. Over 40GBs in size. And with a lot of people not having fast enough internet, with bandwidth caps and ISPs throttling your speeds, it can make for very frustrating experiences, taking hours for a single game to download.

assdan4417d ago

The problem with digital is that you don't technically own the game. You own a license to play the game. If steam wanted to, they could legally revoke every "license" For every game you own. No I highly doubt that will happen, but it wouldn't be illegal.

snarls2004417d ago

that works as long as the save files are not copy protected

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chris_x2k34417d ago

Physical is going away pretty sooon. That's a fact. Enjoy your last console with physical copies of games. There won't be any more going forward. You can down vote this post for truth if you like, it won't change the fact that YOU WILL be going digital, or not playing games at all sooner than you realize.

maxallepi4417d ago

I agree with you Chris. Digital is the future, but still having a hard copy is more secure. You can however (eg steam backup) backup your games and burn to disc which is what I'm planning to do sometime in the future. What I do not agree on is DRM.

Prime1574417d ago

Digital is fine under specific pretenses... for example, SIM city on one hand. If you can't get you single player game after a service goes offline, then that person is an idiot consumer.

Single, dang, player.

GarrusVakarian4417d ago

Lol, as long as i have the *option*, then i'm going physical. If the future is all-digital then i will obviously have to go with the flow, but it's not at the moment, so all it's all good.

ShinMaster4417d ago (Edited 4417d ago )

Going all digital years ago would've been nice. But games today are getting bigger. Some of them over 40GBs in size. And with a lot of people not having fast enough internet, with bandwidth caps and ISPs throttling your speeds, it can make for very frustrating experiences, taking hours for a single game to download.

ravinash4417d ago

Internet might be great where you are, but there are still large markets out there with internet that are dead slow.
As long as thats the case, there will always be a phisical option.

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s45gr324417d ago

But physical copies in the United States are going the way of the dinosaurs. What if five or six years from now you can only get your games via digital distribution then what stop playing games.

ShinMaster4417d ago (Edited 4417d ago )

"What if..."
Sure, but as long as the option is still available, I will choose physical.

Going all digital years ago would've been nice. But games today are getting bigger. Over 40GBs in size. And with a lot of people not having fast enough internet, with bandwidth caps and ISPs throttling your speeds, it can make for very frustrating experiences, taking hours for a single game to download. The US is still behind.

GamingSinceThe80s4417d ago

I can't imagine buying a game for $60 and not end up liking it or feel like it has no replay value to me.But being stuck with it forever not being able to get back 1 cent of my wasted money.It's already like a kick in the nut's only getting between $30 to $40 for a $60 game that that just came out a few day's before.I'v been burn way to many times by bad games to ever be ok with full price digital only.I do buy lower priced games and rare or hard to find digital games from time to time though.And your right PS Plus is very fair for the money.

darkwalker4417d ago

Those problems could easily be rectified if there was a buyer's remorse period in place for games. Maybe most games would allow you to play it for a couple days before you officially own it. And beyond that, they could always implement a trade-in system where you lose access to the game but are refunded money towards the purchase of another game.

diehardmetallicafan4417d ago (Edited 4417d ago )

Once again Lukas i totally agree with you, and with the exact same circumstances. the only time i'll but digitally is if its dlc i really want and for a cheap price. I love my physical copies. Having them all lined up on my shelves in alphabetical order is awesome. especially now that im nearing 100 ps3 games and already own over 100 ps2 games. They're nearly half way to my dvd collection.

Edit: i like the option to trade in games, but id rather not give eb games (australia) my games to sell for triple of what they'd give me pre-owned.

medman4417d ago (Edited 4417d ago )

I made the mistake of buying cod blops II, after no having bought a cod title since blops I. I returned it after a few days for a full refund on Amazon. So in essence, I got to experience the hot mess singleplayer and dabble in the multiplayer for five bucks for a few days, and was able to recoup all my money. With digital I would have been stuck with that garbage. To me, that's case opened, case closed. There is no comparison. Digital is just too inflexible right now. The real killer is there is no price difference between physical and digital copy. That doesn't make a lick of sense. That should tell you something isn't right.

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Nitrowolf24418d ago

"Remember the PSN network outage that happened a few years ago and it took about a month to get everything working again? Some people couldn’t play their games because their accounts weren’t being authenticated. I use this example again because I’m a member of PSN. Some games that you purchase might require DRM. This means that it needs to authenticate itself each time you play. What happens if you purchase a game, install it but can’t play it because your game can’t authenticate to the needed server? You’re stuck"

That's not how It works, if you downloaded something already, it's already activated, it does it right before it downloads, and that I belives is if ur acocunt isn't activated. So regardless, unless people went and deactivated their accounts (doubt there were even that many, if not a few), their digital games still worked perfctly fine.

Nonetheless though, it's still A valid point. I will never go full digital as long as physiclal copies and pricing of digital exists.

Axonometri4418d ago

I am starting to find having a digital copy at ready right on the device or manageable from PC to be very handy. I share concerns like others over entirely cloud based content, but I am finding the convenience when it is working positive.

If my disk breaks, I am toast. If my internet or service goes down, it won't be forever and possible to get something out of it.

theXtReMe14418d ago

This is how I feel also. I come from the Pong and Atari age, but having my library of games ready at a button click is incredible. I do worry that one day, when old servers are replaced with new, that my library will disappear... But, I also think that the future of computing and gaming is headed towards the cloud and all of our purchases should be safe for eternity.

If millions of gamers start relying on digital distribution,, I doubt any company would have the balls to pull it offline without fear of class action backlash. Regardless of what their legal team has prepared for us in the forwards of our online agreement. Though I do think the courts should now define user rights for such distribution, so the consumer is protected from unscrupulous companies looking at quick cash grabs across platforms.

For now, I am buying only the games I feel I will go back to time and time again, digitally. Any game that is short or will only grab my attention for a single play through, will be rented via Gamefly. That way, I am not throwing money out the window for games that I play once and forget.

Axonometri4418d ago

Agreed.

Isn't it awesome to have been around and played through gaming from nearly it's conception? I showed my son a couple of Atari games not long ago... his response, "What the? That looks terrible and lame." I said, "Son, that was like the PS4 to us when it came out." He just shook his head.

s45gr324417d ago

If you live in England "The First Sale Doctrine" has finally been implemented for digital distribution this means the consumer has the legal right to buy used games digitally, trade, and share games digitally including able to return games digitally. Sadly is only available in England and some other parts of Europe not the rest of the world damn it

GamingSinceThe80s4417d ago

theXtReMe1,The thing is in the future when some or all of these company's cease to exist there will be no one left to sue.

ElementX4418d ago

I really don't care if something happens to my digital library. I play a game until I get sick of it then move on. If I can't play a current game in 6 years it's no problem to me. There are already so many games I want to play that I can't imagine going back to play older stuff or play a second time. I am not a collector, I have no use for last gen systems once a new one comes out, in fact I'm looking to get rid of my ps3

Axonometri4418d ago

It is purely nostalgia. I enjoy going back to relive now and then.

micx4417d ago

I'm not keen on it as well. I buy something from time to time, but I rely on physical more.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot13d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle13d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7713d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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15 Years Ago, Mortal Kombat (2011) Saved Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise

A brutal reset, a smarter story, and a return to what made it great—Mortal Kombat (2011) revived the series.

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italiangamer22d ago

"Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise"

Press X to (seriously) doubt.

DarXyde20d ago

Underrated comment. I used to hate that game so much that any time my siblings asked me to play it, I just picked Hom and shut myself down mid-match.

Soy20d ago

And then MK1 killed it again.

DivineHand12520d ago (Edited 20d ago )

15 years went by so fast. I remember playing through the story mode at launch.

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PlayStation legend Shuhei Yoshida says Jim Ryan fired him because he didn't listen to him

Why did Sony push Shuhei Yoshida out of his role leading PlayStation's first-party games? He'd overseen some huge successes. Well, apparently, he didn't listen.

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Relientk7721d ago

Yeah I can see that for sure. Shuhei Yoshida should have been in charge not Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga21d ago

It should be free highway for him now.. but Sony are too stupid to see this, especially that moron Hulst

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Wtf why all that anger. PlayStation is dominating on every level. Besides I think there is a little more to hiring a CEO than just who is available. Its not like its a athlete your team wants to buy.

neutralgamer199221d ago

S2Killinit

live service failures, chasing trends, closing studios. yes dominating

Cacabunga21d ago

Sony is Dominating because competition is not existing. Compared to previous gens this is the poorest in terms of software offerings.

Last gen we got Uncharted 4 Lost Legacy and TLOU2 from ND alone.

This is so far a remasters gen, with no competition to lift up the quality

1nsomniac21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

..."PlayStation is dominating on every level"....

...Really???

PlayStation are soon heading into a new generation in the not to distant future. They currently have the worst customer satisfaction they've ever sustained as a company. The company is heading for a huge crash while at the same time they'll need to be planning how they are going to try and win back that favour and the build up to their new releases.

Yes financially they're winning but they're going to have to ride out this complete public corporate disaster. No one has faith in the company or the product anymore. They've damaged their public image so much this generation. Greed can kill anyone.

medman20d ago

Hulst is a disaster......

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blacktiger21d ago

He would've done the same thing and fire Jim Ryan and Shuhei would be the villain. Why?
Because Elite creates the narrative and distraction for gamers, users and citizens.

Outside_ofthe_Box21d ago

More confirmation that Jim Ryan is the culprit for what has happened to Sony. Hulst needs to go too. What sucks is that a lot of the good top heads at Sony are no longer there. I wish that guys that were forced out prematurely by Dumbo Jimbo like Shuhei and Layden came back.

robtion20d ago

Yep. Yoshida was responsible for bringing one of the best games of this generation to playstation (Stellar Blade). He is an actual gamer and is in touch with what gamers want (creative, fun games, not GaaS and agenda pushing). He also seems like a genuinely nice guy if you watch some interviews. Of course they got rid of him.

darthv7221d ago

Makes you wonder if MS even thought about hiring him after Phil and Sarah were leaving. He certainly couldn't make their situation any worse.

Agent7521d ago

Microflop. After Windows XP and Xbox 360, it all went floppy.

S2Killinit21d ago

Floppy 😆
No pun intended

badz14921d ago

Yoshida for President! Jim Ryan was and always be a hack! Sony should get Shu back

Lightning7721d ago

All the gamer/consumer lead heads are gone across PS and Xbox. shuhei gone phil's gone (questionable) but gone. The future of gaming is somewhat uncertain across the board.

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