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Kinect Could Eventually Come To Smartphones, says Microsoft

Microsoft intends to extend Kinect to smartphones as soon as it will be possible, according to Michael Mott.

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lelo4420d ago (Edited 4420d ago )

Microsoft needs to stop being so stubborn by trying to impinge Kinect with every device. Nobody (or hardly anybody) wants Kinect. It's already costing them a lot of sales of X1's...

christocolus4420d ago (Edited 4420d ago )

I own an xbx one and i find kinect to be very useful i know many others who feel the same way.

why not wait to see how its implemented into smmartphones before dissing it.

Ms may just make the current kinect model compatible with phones or they might just shrink the tech (stripping it off some of its features) and build it directly into their phones somehow.. im curious to see what they have planned though.

Gazondaily4420d ago

Yeah I like the Kinect and this is kind of intriguing but I think they need to focus more on the X1's version of Kinect before jumping the gun.

We still need to see a PROPER use of it for our core gaming applications. It's a great tool and all but I just feel something more needs to be done to justify its inclusion as far as its implementation when it comes to games are concerned.

Alexious4420d ago

It may actually be even more useful for smartphones than for games, in my opinion.

ravinash4420d ago

I think the main problem with Kinect is they have developed a technology and are trying to fit the apps around it.
There are a few good implementations, but when it comes to games, it hasn't been used much at all.

If it comes to smart phones, it might be good for some functions, but again it depends on what problems it resolves rather than just again forcing useless apps to justify the toy.

I'll be looking into moving away from my galaxy in about a year’s time as I'm sick of the useless apps that Samsung keep pushing onto my phone.

I already have a ipad, so maybe I'll try a windows phone next, but I'll have to wait and see if this would add anything or if it's just another feature I'd just turn off.

Why o why4420d ago (Edited 4420d ago )

I've got something similar already. It's called a galaxy s4 and guess what. . . .I hardly use its full functionality.

Eye tracking

Voice command

Gesture command

;)

Thehyph4420d ago

Oh dear.

Someone try this:
Get an Android phone. Now place that phone near your Kinect. Turn on Google Now. Begin speaking to your Kinect.
Obviously, Google Now doesn't know Xbox commands, but it will Google what you are saying before Kinect gets off its ass.
Once that is done, look at the contrast in size between Kinect and the smart phone.

My only point is that Kinect isn't very good.

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Fireseed4420d ago

Apparently 24,000,000 people is "Nobody (or hardly anybody)"...

MasterCornholio4420d ago

The Xbox 360 sold over 80 million consoles so while some people want Kinect the majority don't. Otherwise they would have sold over 40 million cameras.

micx4420d ago

I agree with you on them forcing it unneccesarily, but I believe there's a good number of people interested in it.
But they should leave alone those who aren't.

Imp0ssibl34420d ago

What's worse is that they will probably roll it out for Windows Phone exclusively, at least at first. Don't know what to think about that...

Alexious4420d ago

Yeah, that seems likely....

-Superman-4420d ago

nobody wants Kinect?! If people did not want Kinect then they wouldnt buy Xbox One but PS4 INSTEAD.
Also Kinect Adventures sold 25 million, Uncharted 3 sold 6 million.
Nobody wants?! You have no rights to say anything

blackmanone4420d ago (Edited 4420d ago )

An over exageration and he has no right to say anything? You DO realize that statement is in itself an exageration which, by your own admission, should apparently void you of all "rights"?

Not only do you sound like a child, but you make half a point and it's ass backwards.

Blaze9294420d ago

"Microsoft needs to stop being so stubborn"

Microsoft? Or maybe YOU need to stop being so stubborn maybe? Yeah I think it's you.

Illusive_Man4420d ago

You're wrong. Kinect works well. You wouldn't know though. You don't own, nor do you ever intend to own an X1, kinect or no kinect.

Btw X1 has been on sale for like 3 weeks now, they are currently cheaper than a PS4.

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micx4420d ago

"We'll be watching you," says Microsoft.

Gazondaily4420d ago

I'm never using my phone on the toilet ever again.

ravinash4420d ago

I'm sure the people you've been talking to will be happy to hear that.

Alexious4420d ago

Soon they'll put Kinect into freezers as well.

christian hour4420d ago

41 megapixel camera phone... lol. Anyone here a medai student and/or photographer laughing their asses off at this right now? Megapixel has become such a buzzword. No amount of megapixels will make up for a tiny light reader and heavily compressed, plagued by digital noise, pictures. I wish phone manufactures would just be honest when showing their cameras capabilities... Anyone remember that dumb ad with the guy doing his photoshoot by jumping out of a plane and using a HTC phone? The fact people actually believed the end result photos came from the phone... so dumb. Read up on DSLR's, how they work, and how megapixels (mostly a buzz word) play in to that. Having a higher "megapixel" coutn on a pro camera makes sense, havign it on a camera phone is just trying to sell a phone by using bigger numbers.

Saying that I've no doubt camera phones will eventually get there. But first the camera phone is going to need a better lens, and a bigger and/or multiple sensor. I think googles "block" phone thingy will pave the way. Imagine canon or nikon brought out their own replacement camera for it. would be awesome for people who use it to capture memories and do quick editing on apps.

Personally I'll use my phone for phone things, and my camera for camera things. I dont need kinect or a 41 megapixel camera. Not when the photos still look like absolute ass :P

christian hour4420d ago

I love when people disagree with facts. If you think a higher megapixel count on yr phone makes the camera better than one with a lower mgapixel count... I guess you're the kind of person who dismisses facts and lives in a dream world of cotton candy clouds.

DeathOfTheFanBoy4420d ago (Edited 4420d ago )

Have you actually seen the picture quality of the from the phone he is referring to though? It's (for a phone) astonishing.

But I know what you are saying and you are quite right, megapixels are only a small portion of what it takes to capture a good imagine, most people seem unaware of that fact.

Btw, I have a windows phone and I love it it (I always thought of myself as an Android guy) But my wife bought me one of the new Lumia's and it's just brilliant, if you own an xbox and/or a PC with Windows 8/8.1 it's an amazing set-up.

christian hour4419d ago

Its great what they're fitting in phones now and I will agree capture quality is improving, theres definitely a much better light reader in the latest phones, but to put it down to megapixels is silly.

Personally I'm stuck with a pretty outdated android phone, but I only use it to keep in touch with friends through whatsapp, and a couple of apps for jotting down ideas as they come to my head, maybe the occasional youtube video. Works good for me :)

Sadly my 360 bit the dust a long time ago, but I got a new pc with windows 8 back in november, wouldnt mind seeing the benefits of having a phone that can interact properly with my PC.

modesign4420d ago

kinect on microsoft phones that no one buys. haha

marlinfan104420d ago

its funny how you guys will complain about literally anything MS does. don't you realize how pathetic you sound?

"hahaha MS is sooooo stupid...dont mind the billions they make every quarter"

maybe they should just sit idly by and not implement or make any type of new tech. I'm sure thats what would make you guys happy.

TheUltimateGamer4420d ago (Edited 4420d ago )

While the tech is cool and reasonably useful on systems I can't see any way this would be a benefit on a phone... Maybe I'm being short sighted? I guess we'll see. I'm intrigued.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio14d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing14d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9214d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit14d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing14d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9214d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay16d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn217d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn216d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown17d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay16d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay16d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac16d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger17d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300017d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde17d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde16d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7518d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_15d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.