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Is Facebook buying Oculus a boost for Morpheus?

Last week, as Sony squared up to Oculus across the GDC conference schedule, it looked like we were set for a real David and Goliath battle over the future of VR. Plucky little Oculus, give its first breath of life on Kickstarter before earning a hefty wedge from Silicon Valley venture capitalist extraordinaire Andreessen Horowitz, rekindled the VR dream; now it was to be joined in the race by resurgent behemoth Sony. Oculus had first-mover advantage, remarkable technology and John Carmack. Sony, for all its recent troubles, remains perhaps the finest manufacturer of high- quality consumer hardware on earth (second to Apple, perhaps, but with a far broader scope of operations).

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mewhy324436d ago

I feel that it is. Oculus is now going to religated to social games, farming sims, and things of that nature. Carmack is going to be making virtual livestock now. He should have stayed at Id.

jujubee884435d ago

lol, no way Carmack is doing that. Would be funny though!

ArbitorChief4435d ago (Edited 4435d ago )

If you honestly believe Facebook are going to turn Oculus Rift into a casual/social/mobile gaming platform, you're delusional.

sinspirit4435d ago

I don't mind that Facebook buys it, but I do mind if they raise the price tag higher because of their brand, or that they make it cost more to develop for and abandon the ease of use it was to implement it. Add more functionality to it, I don't care, but restrict it or force people to use these new functions and you'll be driving it down. Better not see things like Facebook and Youtube in how they change the UI every month or two and don't allow choice in it.

medman4434d ago

I know one thing for certain....be prepared to have your eyes bombarded by advertisements when using that oculus soon to be rebranded facebook vr headset.

Battlefieldlover4435d ago

Mark Zuckerberg envisions people visiting virtual worlds where they can buy goods and are served advertisements...Literally his own quote.

Anyone who thinks OR vision isn't in serious trouble is delusional.

porkChop4435d ago

That's what I don't understand. Palmer Luckey says that the vision for Oculus hasn't changed, but reading what Zuckerberg says, he has a COMPLETELY different vision for Oculus and it's all based around making money on ads. Yet people STILL say that ads won't come to the Rift, and that FB won't affect the Rift in any way.

starchild4434d ago

"...he has a COMPLETELY different vision for Oculus and it's all based around making money on ads."

This is simply a lie. You guys aren't even paying attention or trying to be fair.

Here is what Zuckerberg ACTUALLY said in the shareholders conference call:

"Oculus's mission is to enable you to experience the impossible. Their technology opens up the possibility of completely new kinds of experiences. Immersive gaming is the first big opportunity. And Oculus already has big plans here that won't be changing.

The beta version of the Rift is highly anticipated by the gaming community and Oculus has already received orders for more than 75,000 development kits...which is pretty crazy by itself. These developers are mostly gamers, so this is a strong signal of how much people want to develop games for Oculus and how excited they are about it as a gaming platform.

We're going to focus on helping Oculus build out their product and develop partnerships to support more games and accelerate their plans. And they'll continue to operate independently within Facebook to do this."

Then he goes on to explain that the possibilities don't end there and mentions things like virtual tourism and possibilities for new kinds of virtual social interactions.

There is nothing wrong with this. Facebook will likely develop new VR social applications and have some advertising in them, but this will be many years down the road and VR gaming will have long since been established.

You don't seriously believe that they are going to have a well-established successful VR gaming device and just drop gaming and force everybody to suddenly use their headsets only to interact in VR social spaces do you?

By then there will be other competing VR devices and Facebook and Oculus will be doing everything they can to hold on to their place at the forefront of VR. They aren't going to just throw that all away to try to force people to use it only for social interaction.

So, no, porkChop, I haven't heard anybody say there will be no ads in VR ever. What people have said is:

1. The ads won't be popping up in our games and movies, only in future VR social apps, which is exactly what Zuckerberg stated.

2. There is no contradiction between what Zuckerberg said and what Palmer Luckey said. Luckey is saying there will be no adds popping up in our games, Zuckerberg is saying that there may be adds in a future VR social network. Completely different things.

Battlefieldlover4434d ago (Edited 4434d ago )

Oh please starchild that IS what he said, you act like Facebook and zuckerberg don't have a track record. The writing is on the wall. You want to ignore it by all means go right on ahead.

Think before you call someone a liar.

Edit:

"Facebook does not yet have a business model for Oculus, but revenues won’t center around selling Oculus Rift headsets. Zuckerberg said he could envision people visiting virtual worlds where they can buy goods and are served advertisements".

http://time.com/37842/faceb...

JBSleek4435d ago

Considering both options aren't muliplatform I don't see either being a hit until a competitor makes one for all.

thorstein4435d ago

I'm pretty sure Morpheus is both PS4 and PC compatible.

porkChop4435d ago

Right now Morpheus is PS4-only, but Sony has said they are considering bringing it to other platforms. And honestly it would make the most sense. In order for VR to really take off it needs to be multiplatform. On top of that, Morpheus would be a great benefit to PC gamers as it has its own processors that do all the work on its own. It wouldn't give the huge performance drop that Oculus gives. Many PC gamers would be very interested in that.

Battlefieldlover4435d ago

I agree, I think it will be PC compatible sooner then later in its life cycle.

SamPao4435d ago

Yeah I can see it having PSNow installed, so it doesn't matter if you don't have a console at all :)

starchild4434d ago

@porkChop

You are so grossly misinformed. The external processing unit box on Sony's headset is used to un-distort the game geometry to be split off and displayed on an external display for spectators.

It also does simple frame interpolation (like the True motion features on HDTVs) and also some audio processing.

It does not create true extra frames out of nowhere. You still need to be able to render 60 unique frame per second. All they are using it for is to create duplicates of each frame to output at 120fps to try to make up for the slower pixel response of LCD panels (which is the display type they are using).

An OLED display that refreshes at 60Hz (or better yet, 90Hz or 120Hz) wouldn't need this. Frame interpolation looks unnatural anyway and introduces artifacts. Not to mention it is extremely easy to do and doesn't require much processing at all.

"it has its own processors that do all the work on its own", you claim. But you really have no idea what you are talking about. This wouldn't help PCs in any real way. GPUs and other core hardware parts still do 99% of the lifting.

Perez4435d ago

being a gamer I am far more inclined towards Morpheus now that Rift is FB owned but I was really more Sony then Rift even before. If you get down to brass tacks I cant really trust FB not to do something I disagree with and as everyone said voting with your wallet is the best way these days.

Si-Fly4435d ago

Apart from VR is going to look like crap on a PS4 in comparison to VR on a PC with a Rift.

porkChop4435d ago

How? Morpheus has its own built-in hardware that handles all the extra processing. It does not have the huge performance drop that the Oculus Rift does.

Si-Fly4435d ago

Presumably you're talking about the FRC Processing unit in the headset? The one that doubles the frames from 60 to 120fps? And now tell me how many games so far on the PS4 have hit 60fps? Don't expect VR PS4 games to look as good as non VR PS4 games, reaching that 60fps is going to cause compromises ...

porkChop4435d ago

No. It has its own processors (rumored to have 3), its own GPU, etc. It handles a lot of the extra work like lens warping, etc, to create the VR. It takes much of the extra stress away from the console allowing the PS4 to mostly focus on running the game itself.

TheTowelBoy4435d ago

It is for gamers who prefer Sony's platforms and distrust Facebook :P but as for actual real world, no preference at all to either, circumstance I'd say that it does indeed give quite the boost to Oculus. It's easy to get on hate trains these days. But I mean really, how many people have a facebook? A TON OF PEOPLE. Now that might mean nothing to gamers, but to potential investors it means when the OR actually becomes available to the public these guys will have a forum for free advertising. To a lot of people. Thats not even considering thé 2 billion theyll get, which will pretty much make everything easier for them. The only thing I'm concerned about is the rebranding. Facebook went in knowing these guys had a vision, it's THAT vision they bought into, not their own. It just seems like the Oculus team will have an easier time because of this. Now as for the backers.. I can understand their frustration, I would be if I had backed this. Unfortunately the only money I'm giving them is when it goes public. I wish I had backed it though. Anyway I'm still excited, but cautiously so. Just everyone should be when stuff like this happens.

djplonker4435d ago

Just like myspace and bebo facebook is a fad that will no doubt get replaced somewhere down the line... maybe O.o

The Great Melon4435d ago

I would disagree with that. Facebook has managed to grow so large that it has practically ingrained itself as an institution for communication on the internet. Half the websites you look at have Facebook logins integrated into them. There will doubtlessly be a new 'thing' that emerges to waste time on, but Facebook won't fade away because of that. Something like reddit might be more likely to fade away in my opinion in favor of something new.

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted23d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8522d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele22d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk22d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay22d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10123d ago (Edited 23d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit22d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg22d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10122d ago (Edited 22d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14922d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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The Best VR Platformer Games in 2026

A classic genre takes on new life in VR, so here's a rundown of the best VR platformer games available in 2026.

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1Victor24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Can’t be a good list without astro bot and moss and moss book 2 they are the cream of the crop.
If his choices are as good as those 3 games then I gotta try the rest of his list

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_36d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle35d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit35d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog35d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog35d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad35d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_35d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage35d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda35d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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