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Why is everyone leaving Sony?

Play magazine asks what is going on with the recent Sony departures.

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DEEBO4435d ago

destroy and rebuild simple as that.

Ego's thinking you're on some legendary game developer but you're not.
wasting 100 mill on a game and it still sucks,yeah you need to go.

Sony loves making games but quality and cost is a factor and the ps3 was getting burned left&right even if the game was Good (mag)

Team_Litt4435d ago

I can see bet you have bought into the positive spin. Anything to help you see Sony in a glorious light all the time

NewMonday4435d ago

do you have other sources of information or do you just make up stuff.

and their is nothing positive about letting someone wast 100 million and 4 years of dev time, Sony should have pulled the plug a long time ago.

Kayant4435d ago (Edited 4435d ago )

So Sony supposedly spending close to 100m and rebooting a project 3 times are signs of positive spin /s

Justin Richmond going from Naughty dog to Riot games is obviously a career change for what most likely seems like personal reasons.

Sony moving a studio from one location to a bigger location then firing 50+ people suggests something was wrong with a project. I mean it doesn't make sense to expand a studio then cut the workforce after a few months. What would have been the point of moving/expanding if not to grow?

Jaime Griesemer (I:SS Lead Designer) has moved from project to project every couple of years but has been only at two studios (Bungie & SP) ---> http://rewardingplay.com/re... and this is why he left Bungie --> http://www.neogaf.com/forum... and has this to say on his leave from SP --> https://twitter.com/32nds/s...
SP is also expanding --> http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

cba to go into the rest of the others but I hope you see the point. It isn't as clear cut as it seems.

Fact is no one knows what is really happening so you trying to equate it to Playstation *doomed* is not any better than so called *positive* spinning. But it's obvious some kind of *shake* up is going on.

curtis924435d ago

What you're implying makes you just as bad on the other end.

Alsybub4435d ago

They definitely need to do something at the moment.

They need to be more stream lined until PlayStation starts to turn a profit in a couple of years.

Supporting article here: http://uk.reuters.com/artic...

Joe9134435d ago

Either way he spent 4 years on a game and it was not ready to show and if Sony did not like what they saw then they have every right to cancel the game if they felt like they were losing money and that's just going off facts not rumors if Sony would have just let the game come out because hey this is the guy behind GOW3 he can do no wrong and the game sucked then you be crying about that and if someone believes a insider or a source or even a rumor what business is it of yours why can you not respect his decision to believe who the hell he want you want to see Sony in a negative light all the time so what does that say about you.

kenshiro1004435d ago (Edited 4435d ago )

What positive spin? What should everyone do, put on sackcloth and go 'woe is me, Sony is doomed'?

NO ONE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON AT SONY.

You can't assume this person left or that person left because Sony is some sinking ship and everyone's jumping off. Unless you're some investor or you own stocks, stop acting like you know what's going on.

Some of you are sad...really.

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GarrusVakarian4435d ago (Edited 4435d ago )

Ahhh, "damage control"...the term fanboys use when they don't have the intelligence, or knowledge,to form a competent counter argument.

"Listen guys, maybe it's this"

DAMAGE CONTROL!

"When a company is in a bad way, they restructure"

DAMAGE CONTROL!

"We don't know exactly what's going on, let's stop jumping to conclusions"

DAMAGE CONTROL!

Some people will try and explain the situation or make sense out of it, others (bundi, dark11, gozer, morepowerofgreen, Team Litt etc) will troll and shout damage control because they aren't interested in the situation, only the negativity that comes off of it, which they feed on. I know which side i will be on.

bleedsoe9mm4435d ago

"downsizing" , "restucturing" , "outsourcing", "reorganization" we really have no idea what it means for sony long term , and if anyone thinks they can their full of crap .

truefan14435d ago (Edited 4435d ago )

Sony is restructuring, but it seems the ps4 fans are missing the point. It's all about timing. Sony fans got after MSFT for what they call abandoning the 360, but what MSFT was doing was the exact restructuring ps4 fans are giving Sony a pass for. MSFT has more internal studios and games in development than ever before because they restructured at the end of the console life of the 360 to prepare for XB1.

343 has been built up, Black Tusk had been built up, LXP is new, Lion head working and Fable and an unannounced MMO, Rare going back to old ips ... Also 2nd party support is high Remedy, Crytek, Platinum Games...I could go on and on because MSFT restructured and is ready to really compete.

Sony were so worried about trying to catch the 360 they sacrificed the first few years of the ps4. PS they only passed 360 because of the GTA5 bundle, but 360 sold about 90 MILLION more games so MSFT beats Sony. Back on point, just look at how Sony is skipping PAX and relying on multiplats and indie games, similar to MSFT at the end of the 360 generation. Meanwhile MSFT is so confident with their pipeline of games they can't wait to tell. It's impossible to restructure and have a ton of games in development, because it is uncertain who stays and who goes. Look at the releases for ps4, killzone, infamous, tlou remake, uncharted, those are all safe games, Sony isn't taking a lot of chances on new ips. Expect this trend to continue for a few years. Their finances are starting to become a factor, the concern for ps4 fans should be the people who are leaving played a big factor in playstation success. Not only that, but the break ups have been sour. I know I know, MSFT lost Whitten, but Mattrick needed to go. All in all expect this restructuring to last a little while, it is not a quick fix.

Try to be objective when ready this, it will make perfect sense.

majiebeast4435d ago (Edited 4435d ago )

Lol all these xbox fanboys concern trolling shouldnt you be playing Titanfall?

XBOTTOX4435d ago

I love how people are making statements and logical assumptions as to why these people left Sony. If it only it was that easy.

redwin4435d ago

So, the lead designers and the "botton pushers" get "fired " not "layed off" because of something that the lead designers messed up on. And they get fired before the investors look at the books for the quarter for the ps4. You all think that Sony can do no wrong, all they are giving me this year as exclusives are a bunch of indie games. Agh, it's like choosing to stay in the matrix.

HighResHero4434d ago

If you would like a positive spin I can give you one Litt.
They still have hundreds of other talented devs working on highly ambitious projects across multiple platforms.
They have the most and the possibly the strongest first/second party studios in the industry.
A few talented people move to more ambitious positions while their current employees are generally teeming with continually advancing talent.
Just objective facts, no rose tinted glasses necessary. Nice to be able to look at objective reality.

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MelvinTheGreat4435d ago

This site is great. Almost everyone on here claims sony has the best studios, yet when they fire people its for the better. Why? Why change the magic formula? If sonys studios are so great and awsome then why are they letting people go?

Why o why4435d ago (Edited 4435d ago )

The studio output was good, definitely but seems like sony are trimming the fat. Time will tell if this is to the detriment of their output from here on. Just because you're doing great, doesn't mean you cannot or shouldn't improve be it in talent, output or efficiency

xxBiG_BoSSxx4435d ago

If their studios are so bad then why are their games so highly praised by critics and fans?
Why do so many developers state how great it is working with Sony?

I keep seeing people call the logic and analysis being applied to these stories as "damage control" but they never mention what the "damage" actually is.

Joe9134435d ago

Because it is business all game studios do this if you have 50+ ppl working on a game and that game gets canceled what do you do with the 50+ ppl if you have no new projects for them to work on clean floors windows and such lol just think about it before speaking and I think it is funny how ppl (who I honestly think are Xbox fans)keep talking about Sony letting go of idk around 100 or so with the recent lay offs but irrational games just laid off like 200 ppl after making a damn good game to change their focus with a smaller team that will work on digital only games so it is ok for other companies to fire everyone to be more streamlined and it is fine but when Sony does it there is something wrong lol MS been losing execs left and right since the xbox one was announced the person that wanted to become CEO and sell the division off is now running that division and they sold a studio to Amazon yet Xbox fans feel everything is ok yet want to talk about Sony.

morganfell4435d ago

Simple Melvin. You have forgotten, or else never learned, a basic rule of life. As Darwin stated it,

"It is not the strongest or the most intelligent who will survive but those who can best manage change." Or the more simple explanation by Tolle, "Evolve or die."

kenshiro1004435d ago (Edited 4435d ago )

So wait...Sony is the ONLY company in the world who lets people go or something? I'm sure there's other companies who were going through a restructuring process that have let supposedly important people go before.

These things happen. Sony's running a business, not a zoo.

And I agree that Sony should not have allowed someone to waste so much money on a project that never took off in the first place.

GarrusVakarian4435d ago (Edited 4435d ago )

You do know that when a company restructures, they don't have the luxury of choosing their favourites and who to keep, right?

They can't just go "but man, i really love Evolution studios, i don't wanna let these guys go!" *stamps feet*.

Restructuring is a cold process. You have to think of people as "assets", not as hard working human beings with families.

GrandTheftZamboni4435d ago

"sony has the best studios, yet when they fire people its for the better"

Best can be even better. Bestest?

DawnOfDon4435d ago

@Melvin

People on this site thing everything Sony does is great and can't see them crumbling

redwin4435d ago

Sony is like any other company, they need to please the investors and in turn they will please us for a long long time. To please the investors they have to make unpopular decisions and they are not under outh to explain them to the public. But I don't buy that, they all got fired in the same month, was a coincidence.

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G20WLY4435d ago

Some good points DEEBO.

Shall I tell you guys who's not leaving Sony?

The players :)

(which also means the consumers...)

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bloodybutcher4435d ago

Who knows what ''failed trolling'' means?

Eonjay4435d ago

These things happen in business all the time. Our executive VP was just replaced for under performing. We just don't have media outlets blowing all of our staff changes out of proportion for hits.

Anon19744435d ago (Edited 4435d ago )

What's weird is why this is even news. People move around the industry all the time. Way back in 2007 there were 40,000 people working in game development in the US alone, and that was seven years ago. Peole move around in the industry on a weekly basis. GameDeveloper magazine used to have a section in the back every month that kept track of the notable moves of individuals in the gaming industry as they opened new studios or jumped over to another team.

Suddenly we're supposed to think this isn't business as usual? What's unusual is why anyone suddenly cares.

ArbitorChief4435d ago (Edited 4435d ago )

Why is everyone leaving Sony? Simple, $1.1 billion loss forcing Sony to make changes and restructure. Simply business.

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted21d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8521d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele21d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk21d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay21d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10121d ago (Edited 21d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit21d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg20d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10120d ago (Edited 20d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14921d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_34d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle34d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit34d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog34d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog34d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad34d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_34d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage34d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda34d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong60d ago

looks god awful on the base systems