@ifc. its not that notion. the facts are in the sales #'s. amd another example would be BlackOps2 (huge game), sold like 6-7M on PS3 the first week, 7-8M on 360 the first week, guess how much it sold on pc the first week.. 0.4M. spending money on a nice rig actually has absolutely nothing to do with people buying games. piracy is on consoles too, but, like, not nearly as much as on pc, obviously.. and dont get me wrong, some games will sell ok on PC, it also depends on the game but when compared to its console counterpart, its usually a big difference.

It's sad. The game has so much potential on PC with mods and everything. You can feel how they had to be conservative and cut corners with the console version.
But rockstar didn't release red dead redemption for pc so it's very possible that they won't release gta v either. I feel like there would have been an announcement by now if they planned on releasing it...

@PoSTedUP

Call of Duty isn't big on the PC anymore because the VAC anticheat engine doesn't do shit and they used it for all the CoD games after 4, also the developers don't seem to care either. That being said they still sell enough copies on the platform for them to be profitable.

GTA and RED is the only game from rock star that's worth buying. They Dont make manhunt or midnight club. I didn't like max pain it was just shiney gfx. What happened to agent I was waiting all last gen for it. So at this point if they Dont release a PC version I'm done with rock star just like cap com, and SE. I Dont support devs that treat you like the dumb blonde, and they rare release enough games that I would be feeling like I'm messing out.

@vega, well even for cod4 the community manager at IW said that they saw a "distrubing" number of people playing cod4 online on pirated copys. its just the facts. and mw2 sold a little better than cod4, on pc. so it grew, it didnt become "unpopular" after cod4. and imo, the more something grows on pc, the more it gets pirated. same for consoles, but on a much smaller scale.

@PoSTedUP According to VGchartz MW1 sold 300k more then MW2, MW3 sold better but the community plummeted due hacks were available day 1 because they didn't bother to improve security over MW2. The Witcher 2 was pirated 4.5 million times but was still profitable and CD Projekt has a more realistic idea on the subject.

"For some people, piracy, it's in a way trying the games because...some people treat it [like] some kind of a trial. Some people just cannot afford it in the full price. And ultimately, I believe that if we treat these people right, then at some point, be it mid-price or maybe budget, they will go out and buy our game"

-Iwinski

i didnt say it cant be profitable, but when i said MW2 sold more than MW1, that was a direct statement from IW, so they prob know more than vgchartz and are including digital sales. i would never use vgcharts in a debate, personally.

and that quote makes sense a little, but its also just a bunch of hoping that some of the thiefs will buy the game, which is realistic, but commnsense, yeah some people intend to use it as a trial but im sure the majority know wha they are doing. i wouldnt condone stealing either tho. but it depends on the game and development cost wheher itsgonna be profitable with lower sales on pc. imo, if you dont pay for it, you dont deserve to play their work of art. so it has more to do with principles and morals than some companys trying to look at it in a positive way bc it is inevitable. but im sure we can all agree that the sales would be much better if it was hard to or impossible to pirate games, therefore it hurts the industry in general. any kind of stealing does. but kudos to the devs who are trying to embrace that fact and get some of thoes people to buy it.

Why do you guys pick and choose only certain games to try and bash the PC?

You ignore the fact that the vast majority of multiplatform games can be found on the PC. The PC gets games it shares with the PS4, it gets games it shares with the XB1, then it gets exclusives from PC centric developers, and in the end it gets more games than any other platform.

You ignore the fact that every platform misses out on particular games. You can't play Titanfall, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell Conviction, Mark of the Ninja, Metro 2033, Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare or The Witcher 2 on any Playstation console for example. But you CAN play those games on a PC or Xbox console.

So clearly the PC is a profitable platform otherwise developers/publishers wouldn't put so many of their games on the platform.

And the sales numbers bear this out. PC game sales as a whole generate far more revenue than any single console. In fact, more than any two consoles combined. I'm sick of posting the links to prove this since console fanboys like yourselves simply ignore them, but the facts are out there for you to verify for yourself if you really want to know the truth.

that really doesnt have anything to do with what IM talking about, starchild.

when you compare multiplat games, with the majority of them (probably all of them), one single console sells way more than on pc.

everything else you said, well, i guess it wasnt in reply to me bc i didnt mention revenue in general or which platform gets what game, and that has nothing to do with the fact that a lot of games get pirated. but i mean cmon, with the ammount of indies, mmos, and games that dont make it to consoles, there are too many for consoles to compete with. the revenue of console is mostly made up of the bigger games (up until this recent boom of indies) but pc has far more games, way more indies, way more F2P, so many more mmos etc. that make up that revenue. but when you take ones console counterpart and compare it on the other hand.... is what im talking about. thats where piracy steps in, for some reason. and may be why gtaV might not make it to pc.