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Spec Sheet: Sony's Project Morpheus takes Oculus Rift head-on

A lot of products come out each week — we don't highlight all of them, but all of them make it into The Verge Database. In Spec Sheet, a weekly series, we survey the latest product entries to keep track of the state of the art.

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amnalehu4452d ago

90 degree vs 100 degree field of view measurements are not entirely accurate. As it stands, there is no standard method of measuring VR field of view since there are several factors that effect it. I'm pretty sure that if the Sony VR field of view were measured the same way the OR's is, there would not be a 10 degree difference.

starchild4452d ago

Whatever the confusion might be, it doesn't change the fact that multiple sources have said that there is more black space on the peripheral edges of Sony's headset than there is in the Rift. I think the Rift actually does have a 110 degree field of view, while Sony's headset has a 90 degree FOV.

amnalehu4452d ago

What are you basing your thought on? Here is what one of the Sony R&D people had to say on this vey subject:

Eurogamer: You've got very similar specs to Oculus. One big differentiation is the field of view. How did you come to that decision?

Anton Mikhailov: Is the difference diagonal or horizontal? That's the key there - diagonal is basically 1.4 times the horizontal. Ours is 90 degrees horizontal. If you do that calculation diagonal it's over 100, or somewhere - I think it's quite complicated doing the maths because the optics we're using are fairly non-standard, so I can't give you an exact answer. But it's certainly far above 90.

Because this is the wild west of VR, we don't have a standard way of measuring things. When you buy a 46-inch TV, you know they mean diagonal, not horizontal. If we'd like to compare specs, we need to get a very clear spec in line. And actually optics are even more complex than that - you know, for the head mount displays it's a little strange because the aspect ratio might not even be 16:9. What you really want is a vertical field of view and a horizontal field of view. Diagonal can be kind of misleading. It gets complicated, and the numbers range wildly - basically we can quote numbers between 90 and 120, depending on how you want to talk about it.

Another thing is glasses and eye relief. When you get closer to the optics in VR displays, you get a wider field of view. So if you're quoting a number that's at the lens, that could be quite a bit wider. The specs we quote is 90 degrees field of view for a glasses-wearing person at 15mm eye relief or further. So it's a very specific spec.

GeraltofRivia4452d ago

With the PS4 hardware not even able to run games past 1080p (as of now) I am assuming the PS4 is basically like a 5 year old low end gaming pc in regards to hardware and capabilities. With the Oculus Rift being PC based wouldn't that mean that the experience should be much better then anything a gaming console would have to offer?

MelvinTheGreat4452d ago

The Oculus will always be superior because the developers know that most who buy the oculus will have powerful PCs. Thus oculus will most likely have higher res screen, and the in-game images will look better

GeraltofRivia4452d ago

I understand people have a need to DISAGREE with my posting, however could you at least give some reasoning behind it?

shazui_204452d ago

I only disagreed with "the PS4 is basically like a 5 year old low end gaming pc in regards to hardware and capabilities" because that's not the case.

I'd have thought the rift would offer a much better VR experience provided you have the right rig. I mean why shouldn't it, if you pay more you should get more.

WeedyOne4452d ago

Yeah the ps4 is more comparable to a current mid range pc than a 5 year old low end gaming pc.

PoSTedUP4452d ago (Edited 4452d ago )

@gerlato- it depends on games and whether or not OR has immersive controllers (do they have something like Move? i cant remember). dont they have some kind of glove in development?

hardware will play a part, yes. but also sales (third partys continuing to support), so which ever company markets it the best.

imo, if sony does OLED, it will be a good alternative to not hitting above 1080p (if ps4 cant).

graphics has never been an issue as far as cosole games sales go, even tho sub to PC, console games sell more (comparing ones available on both platforms: PC and console), so not only hardware sales, but which device proves to have the best attach rate for games; is where developers will prefer to go. this gen you are seeing more multiplats come close between ps4 and PC because some devs feel it isnt worth it to optimize for pc if the game is going to sell better on consoles. so that can also be the case for multiplat VR games.

no doubt OR is going to be an awesome experience, but right now it is very much up in the air still bc there are a lot of other factors involved that play a big role in each of their success other than just hardware specs.

SteamPowered4452d ago

Check out PrioVR. That's some full body immersion right there. And the DK2 from rift has a camera for tracking as well. I have seen all kinds of VR peripherals to solve the k /m problems. Dual analogs, wii motes, replica firearms, you name it. If anything, OR needs to settle on one set and not make the mistake of the Steambox and have 13 configurations.

PoSTedUP4452d ago

yeah deff. and im not gonna say its necessary, but, it would be a lot better to have a universal peripheral like how Move can attach to a gun etc. but better bc move is limited, too. but then you are gonne have the ppl that jus want to sit on their ass and play like i will sometimes so hopefully they implement good controller support, as well.

all this talk is getting me excited.

Evilsnuggle4452d ago (Edited 4452d ago )

Silly PC fanBoys never learn market analysts have estimated That sony will over 100+ million PS4. If Sony sells as well as Kincet or 25% of PS4 own buy a sony vr that is 25-30 million VR.
The rift will sell 1000 to the 1000 pc fanBoys .lol lol :-)
PC FANBOYS don't understand that pc gaming is a small niche market and not mainstream like gaming consoles. Michael Pachter said 85% of the AAA game industry sales comes from game consoles. PC fanBoys don't tell me how many people have steam account that means nothing. I have like 7-10 xbox live accounts and 3 PSN accounts that is not a indication of how many PC game as they are. If PC AAA gaming is so large the why would rock star skip the lagers game audience in favor of smaller audience Of consoles. That makes no sense GTA 5 is the best sales game of all time but it's not even on pc. If pc gaming is such a big market Why make the largest most expensive game of all time 4 game consoles only. That makes no business sense

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KINECT 1 is garbage and a gimmick and barely works I only one For my kids. But kinect sold 25 million . If the SONY VR Works well and the Press gave Sony VR rave reviews. It sold sale as well as Kincet. This is something pc fanBoys don't understand a business. The PS4 VR doesn't need to be better than the rift to sell more. It needs to be priced at a mass market price and work well the press was Loved the PS4 VR. The PS4 VR just has to work . Look at the press coverage of GDC most of it is a about Sony vr . The press is only mentioning the oculus rift because of Sony's VR. I'm talking about sales and mass market.

SteamPowered4452d ago (Edited 4452d ago )

There are more pc gamers than Ps4 gamers. A lot more in fact. By the sheer number of pc gamers, the odds are pretty good that even at a low adoption rate, they will still sell well.
And ps,oculus sold over 60,000 Dev 1 kits and Are on par to beat that with Dk2.

webeblazing4452d ago

silly fanboy you think pc gamers care about sells. if a company is successful im sure people dont care how much stock or revenue or whatever.
what is a AAA game pc proves you dont have to have a crazy large budget to make a great game, and when a pc game do its on a completely different scale than console games.

gtaV yeah you trying to hard. gta always come to pc late it also comes with tools. and have more feature than console version

your trying to hard buddy. i know you mad right now but itll get better

starchild4452d ago

"PC FANBOYS don't understand that pc gaming is a small niche market and not mainstream like gaming consoles."

You're truly clueless. PC gaming is not a niche market. PC gaming is, in fact, much bigger than any single console.

PC game sales alone generated 20 billion dollars in 2012. That same year the entire gaming industry only generated around 65 billion, and that includes all console, handheld, smartphones, and PC software, as well as console and handheld hardware.

So PC games ALONE generated nearly a third of the revenue of the entire gaming industry. That's bigger than the game sales of any two consoles combined.
http://www.forbes.com/sites...
http://www.cinemablend.com/...
http://www.pcr-online.biz/n...

Especially right now, and for the next couple years, the PC gaming user base absolutely dwarfs the PS4's user base.

Bonerboy4452d ago (Edited 4452d ago )

Not only are you biased and blindly ignorant in your entire fanboy rant, you are also incorrect. Toddle off and enjoy your console with the sony VR that will be quite 'limited' based on your 'almighty' console hardware as soon as it launches. Im sure it will be interesting and fun for all the sony folks, but it will hit that tech wall much sooner than later. Market analysts estimates and sales cant improve limited hardware. Put another way.... sony can sell all they want but sales wont make for a better and more immersive experience, only versatile and evolving hardware specs will. Your statement is illogical and nothing but flawed fanboy rhetoric.

I will be enjoying the constant evolution of the infinitely more versatile and powerful pc and Rift.
Ta-ta....fanboy.

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dcj05244452d ago

The OR will be better but since the PS4 is only 4 months old I do not believe that it has been fully optimized and maxed out.

amnalehu4452d ago

AC4, NBA2K14, Infamous Second Son etc... all @ 1080p.

GeraltofRivia4451d ago

what is you point in saying "AC4, NBA2K14, Infamous Second Son etc... all @ 1080p."

medman4451d ago (Edited 4451d ago )

@geraltofrivia
Well, according to early impressions, the project morpheus vr holds it's own very well against the latest iteration of the oculus. Some have said Sony's vr headset is more comfortable, the display doesn't feel as close to your eyes making the viewing experience less straining on the eyes(according to some), and also Sony's vr allows you to turn around and look behind you in the environment due to it's rear sensors, something that the latest rift headset does not allow. Both are 1080p at the moment, the rift has oled display while Sony haven't decided whether to go oled or lcd, with lcd currently the option used in morpheus. So in all, Sony's headset is actually preferred by some who have used it thus far, but let's be honest...we have no idea what the final versions of either of these projects will be. Also, how much will morpheus cost? At the moment, it's plugged into a processor unit that no doubt helps take load off the ps4. How good will that processor be in the final product? Sony have said they plan to make the system wireless. What does that mean for the processing unit it's currently plugged into? I'm wondering how well that would work and if that wouldn't induce lag, the last thing you want. A little lag in gaming isn't terrible, but every little bit in a vr headset would be very noticeable, I would think. I think it's a great product from Sony, I just don't know how the final version will perform or what it will cost.

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DrRobotnik4452d ago

I think this will be a passing fad, just like motion controls and 3d. Yes, there will probably be a killer app released to utilize the full capabilities of these vr headsets. But at a $300-$500 price range. That's a little to much to swallow right now. Especially for just a add on that only uses a few games.

dcj05244452d ago

Yes but with time, the price goes down.

WeedyOne4452d ago

Put a porn app out for it and people will buy it!

specialguest4452d ago

I want Sonys VR to be as best as it can possibly become, because a subpar experience might be a bad first impression for many people and kill the return of VR in general. As of now, it was just introduced, so we'l have to stay tuned to what they have in stored and their business direction with VR. I'm not concern about the oculus rift, because they've been very transparent about their goals and ambitions, and I know they won't release their consumer product until they are satisfied.

My position in this silly "VR war" that some people and articles are trying to brew up is that in the bigger picture of things, I don't see this as a competition. This isn't about who lands on the moon first to reap all of the glory and rewards. This is more like a brothers at arms to overcome the mountain of challenges to finally make VR a reality and mainstream.

aliengmr4452d ago

I think you just won this comments section.

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1Victor35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Can’t be a good list without astro bot and moss and moss book 2 they are the cream of the crop.
If his choices are as good as those 3 games then I gotta try the rest of his list

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Fishy Fingers48d ago

Are a bunch of games, some of which are nearly 10 years old not one being from 2026. Barely one from 2025.

I do like the irony of the closing paragraph though, "Why VR Adventure Games are Thriving". Really buddy?

mooreneco2148d ago

That’s because it’s his favourite VR adventure games thus far, a great game always a great game regardless of age - Half life 2/ Ocarina of time - are old but still among the greatest games of all time. The irony of it is several are from last year, depending on platform, have you even played VR?

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