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GDC: Microsoft has Worked on VR 'For Quite a While'

During a conversation about virtual reality technology at the Game Developers Conference, Microsoft Game Studios' Phil Spencer said "I think the technology is really interesting, and it’s definitely something we’ve been playing with for quite a while."

Irishguy954430d ago

Would expect them have too, same with Sony. VR is the future. Always has been. After VR comes brainwave VR.

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darthv724430d ago

VR has been something that has been toyed with for 20+ years by various companies. Looking at the tech then and now there has been huge advancements in making it not only better but more cost effective.

Hatsune-Miku4430d ago

This would put further strain on the xbox one that is already stretch thin trying to run games at 720p. VR with two 480i glasses wouldn't be good at all but I'm sure fanat-X would love to buy it.

christocolus4430d ago (Edited 4430d ago )

@Hatsune

Why are you so biased? You are in every xbx article with nothing reasonable to say? Dont you get tired of talking crap? If MS does release a VR headset im sure xbx fans would go ahead and buy it just as Ps fans would buy morpheus...so why the name calling? Its funny how some guys can have so much bias towards the choice of others.

MelvinTheGreat4430d ago

@hatsune

Whats you're deal dude? How bout you stop taking it up the butt from sony and be glad and happy theres competition between the two companies.

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Volkama4430d ago

Phil spencer is quite right that convincing the masses to wear a headset is a challenge though. Look at stereoscopic 3D and the Hugh push within the TV industry to get glasses-free 3D working.

I don't think something like illumiroom or anything projecting images on your walls can be as immersive or high quality though.

Such a cool time for the games industry right now.

morganfell4430d ago

Microsoft and VR looks like a nice idea for some but then ESRAM rears it's ugly head.

Bandwidth, or rather the lack of it will haunt the X1 this entire generation.

FriedGoat4430d ago

@morganfell

Dunno why you're getting disagrees, The XBone is really going to struggle to output 2 720P images.

malokevi4429d ago

I imagine MS will go the AR glasses, as pet their "Fortaleza" patents.

The way I see it, they stopped working on Illumaroom because they realized that they could achieve the same effect with image-overlay using AR. They would also be cheaper than a full headset, and would augment the TV rather then replace it.

Remains to be seen. For now, I'm happy gaming on my TV. If morpheus turns out well, is well supported, and isn't overly expensive, I'm sure I'll end up getting one.

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AngelicIceDiamond4430d ago

I bet VR will be cool and very unique but like I said I just want to play on a controller at the end of the day.

I just hope its not forced on us.

Muffins12234430d ago

Your still useing a controler,its not like wii or kinect,its a different way of seeing the game. ITs like going from pixels to polygons.

MorePowerOfGreen4430d ago

We already knew this. Seen this in the 2010 leaked docs almost 2 years ago. MSFT will obviously see if the tech flops due to its novelty and if successful, go big as they always do. Kinect 2.0 would be the only thing that would make this tech mainstream.

Eonjay4430d ago

That is a catch 22 you are describing. You said that they would join in if it doesn't flop and you said that only Kinect can keep it from flopping. There is no way to reconcile these opposing situations.

christocolus4430d ago

@morepower

My guess is that MS will go ahead with their VR plans irrespective of what Sony and Oculus are doing. Theyve been working on similar tech for some years now i.e fortazella and illumiroom..its just a matter of when now.

@majiebeast

Huh? You are funny.....lmao.

corvusmd4430d ago (Edited 4430d ago )

Exactly, MS has always been an innovative console company, that's why we now have Broadband, Achievements, Motion controllers, Massive dedicated server support, cloud computing and, game streaming as a mainstay. I'm sure MS will/is doing this right. They don't need to worry about anyone else. I like the AR aspect the seem to be taking...kinda like including the "illumniroom aspect into VR

Pay no mind to maji...based on his/her comments they're clearly new to gaming and lost as to what the facts are.

@fireseed. To be fair, Sony did originate the idea of massive network hacks and charging $50 a year for "free" games.

BlueTemplar4430d ago

@Corvusmd

You're crediting Microsoft with Broadband? Really?

I Know the original Xbox had a ethernet connection, but come on - do you really think the other platforms would be stuck in 1999 otherwise?

Also, motion controllers?? I think you're crediting the wrong company. Game streaming too.

Amazing.

ToxicSushi4430d ago

@BlueTemplar
Sega Dreamcast had a NIC add on module vs. the modem module. Now that was a technological machine ahead of its time :-)

johndoe112114430d ago

What the hell does kinect have to do with virtual reality???? Does oculus have kinect? Is that the logic you're using to justify that piece of sh!t accessory???

beerzombie4430d ago

Yes it dose it had to use a camera for motion tracking to be better. That's were the Kinect will be a plus because everyone has one not 20% percent like the ps4 which by all standards is freaking great.
also Ps4 will either have to bundle a camera that will raise the price where X1 can just sell the Vr cheaper because everyone has a camera.

MusicComposer4429d ago

@beerzombie The Kinect 2 refresh rate is only 30hz which is too slow to be used in VR. The PS4 camera by comparison is 60hz at 720p and is 120hz at 480p. It seems like Microsoft is pursuing AR instead of VR though.

majiebeast4430d ago

Microsoft the me too company.

MelvinTheGreat4430d ago

Its not like VR has been done before....oh wait it has...that means...sonys is copying too *gasp*

BG115794430d ago

Oh yeah, everyone remembers the Virtual Boy.

Old McGroin4430d ago

@ BG11579

Or a more recent example, Oculus Rift.

beerzombie4430d ago (Edited 4430d ago )

I think Sega and Nintendo did some of this too.

specialguest4430d ago

I've done it first before those companies. Made both hands shaped like a binocular and put it against my eyes and BAM! instant VR.

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Fireseed4430d ago

Oh totally, why do they always have to copy Sonys HYPER ORIGINAL ideas...
Like Morphe... Ohhh Oculus...
Oh I know Mov... Oh Wii (Also know by Sony as the "lollipop")...
Oh wait I got it Trophi... Oh achievements...
Hmm

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Fireseed4430d ago

@gulash

My point being, everything is iterative.... and yes I'd accept that MS probably took that from Spyro. Along with a lot of others things, but that's how we get advancement.

MazzingerZ4430d ago (Edited 4430d ago )

Achievements and the whole XBL concepts and features for the X360 are rather taken from Bungie's MP ideas in Halo 2, including voice messages.

Bungie created XBL, it's amazing how after all that partnership Bungie kept free after all that, one must respect their ideals of being an independent developer.

Microsoft paid for XBL so I guess we can't call it copied, Bungie was behind it, but yeah, MSFT has mostly been the company that purchase others ideas and I have nothing against that if that help to make things better and reach more people.

You can't blame on everything on the buyer as there's also a seller, those buys out motivates small companies to innovate and someday make big money from that, so innovation is still on the picture, just not from big companies.

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

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Gazondaily4430d ago (Edited 4430d ago )

@grim

what?? Oh please. That's some desperate spinning. A system wide system of achievements that is universal snd tracks your achievements and logs them online is the same as Spyro thr Dragon's skill point system?? Aha okay. Yeah because MS looked at that and came up wjth their system.

My days are some people delusional.

But MS are copying Sony with VR right?? Lol look at the double standards.

starchild4430d ago (Edited 4430d ago )

@grimlash

You're really grasping at straws there. I mean, that is a huge and absurd stretch. The idea of earning things in games goes much farther back than Spiro. Microsoft was the first one to systematize it across their entire ecosystem in all of their games and to have them all add up towards an online "gamerscore". Give credit where credit is due.

Edit: Haha it looks like Septic beat me to it by a couple minutes.

Angeljuice4430d ago

@Fireseed
Thought I'd make a few corrections to improve the accuracy of your bodged points;

" Oh I know Mov... Oh Wii" .....OH EYETOY (THE ORIGINAL)

" Like Morphe...(began 2010) Ohhh Oculus...(began 2011-2012)"

No need to thank me, it's a free service.

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Old McGroin4430d ago (Edited 4430d ago )

@ majiebeast

Sony is more of a "me too" company in many ways, they just do it a bit more stealthily. They see what new ideas are being implemented by other companies, gauge how the public reacts and then once everything has blown over, implement the exact same ideas themselves. Examples are the VR headset (Oculus), the Move controller (Nintendo Wii Controller), PS4 TV shows/capabilities (Xbox One TV Shows/capabilities), streaming games (Gaikai/Onlive), PSP/Vita (Nintendo handhelds), remote gaming on the Vita (Wii U remote gaming), Trophies (Xbox Achievements) and the list goes on. Maybe they should actually just change their name to Me Too altogether.

goldwyncq4430d ago

If last gen was the motion control gen, this gen would be the VR gen.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio8d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing8d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster928d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit8d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing8d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster928d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay10d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn210d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn29d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown10d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay10d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay10d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac9d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger10d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300010d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde10d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde9d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7511d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_9d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.