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EDGE Preview: Saints Row 2

Gaming's most cynical franchise gets a retread with some old faults intact, and new ones just for you.

No other open-world game so desperately wanted to be Grand Theft Auto as Saints Row. So how do you deal with the fact that, for all its little innovations, it simply wasn't as good or taken as seriously? Easy. You pretend you always wanted to be ridiculous anyway. So it goes for Saints Row 2, which aims to be more ludicrous, exaggerated and overblown than its predecessor. The result is a game that looks to be, in every sense, comic.

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Superfragilistic6565d ago

I get the idea that EDGE doesn't like any sandbox games stepping on GTA's hallowed turf, but to be honest this game looks like a lot of fun (so long as the bugs are ironed out).

The magazine plays down the innovations such as the GPS of the first Saints Row calling them "little" and yet praises Rockstar's copycat GPS system on the same website! Further there's no mention of Saints Row 2's groundbreaking elements in the sandbox genre, in particular the fully playable co-op campaign.

Saints Row is never going to be GTA, so people should get over it! In fact the author seems to clearly miss the satirical nature of the Saints Row premise and believes that everything within it should be viewed through the more realist GTAIV tone. And don't even get me started about the flimsy feminist concerns about the portrayal of women in Saints Row as opposed to GTA.

I think most gamers, unlike the reviewer, will take this as it is. A fun romp of over the top silliness with deep customization and playable with a mate through campaign.

Or in other words, San Andreas on steroids!

MK_Red6565d ago

I have to disagree, for all the good things in original SR, it was a horrible mess and had more bugs than Kane & Lynch and Hour of Victory combined. Plus, it screamed that it wanted to be GTA but it wasn't even as good as GTA3.

And now with uber great GTA4 already out, a game like SR2 which looks ugly, has so many bugs and so few original ideas, I think the previewer was pretty genereous.

Ghoul6565d ago

i played through the entire saintsrow 1 mainly because of a lacking gta title in that time, but on the second thought i gotta give red the agree.

Saints row was a BUGFEST, nothing worked flawless and it had so many issues it got unplayable on some parts, and speaking of innovations is a bit far off saints row had what ? 2 new additions compared to 100 ripoffs or to say it straight a 1 on 1 copycat from gta.

i was actually looking foreward to sr2 but knowing the used the same friggin town in part2 and the grafiks looking worse then in part 1 i gotta pass.

Dan Houser6565d ago (Edited 6565d ago )

Why did they copy us for?

MK_Red6565d ago

Well, this proves that Saints Row 2 is a messy GTA wanna be just like the original except with even more bugs (If that's possible). They'll probably hype it again and get 8s for it like the original even though that deserved nothing more than a 4.

bumnut6565d ago

"And now with uber great GTA4 already out, a game like SR2 which looks ugly, has so many bugs and so few original ideas, I think the previewer was pretty genereous"

gta 4 is not uber great (its also has lots of bugs) and also has very few original ideas. (except for the mobile phone)

i think sr2 will offer players more freedom than gta4 and give them more places to visit. You could go into any shop in sr1 and rob it, imo gta4 is lacking severley in that department.

Skaterboy Tell Em6565d ago

I think the cell phone thing was done first in the original saints row and so was the gps.

bumnut6565d ago

my memory is not what is used to be...hence the towelie pic

Silverwolf6565d ago

At least they are trying! I really don't know what the big deal is with GTA4. To me it wasn't that good to begin with, nothing "uber" about it. Same crap different coat of paint *piss paint that is*. SR was a pretty good game. I can only hope SR 2 is better.

MK_Red6565d ago

Well, even if you hate GTA4, at least it had the coat of paint *piss paint that is* (Lets forget about superb physics and better shooting and better writing).
SR2 is SR1 without even that coat of paint.

tweaker6565d ago

I'm actually rooting for Saints Row 2 to reign over GTA4. Of course not sales wise but over fun factor of the open world sand box genre.

Bigrhyno6565d ago

Well ya, even if you love Grand Theft Auto, who wouldn't want a better game to come out? I wouldn't get my hopes up though for it being better than GTA. I do hope that it is a fun game though and not that buggy because I would love to have a coop open world game.

LeShin6565d ago (Edited 6565d ago )

I'm gonna wade in here and disagree with you Red (for once lol)

I bought GTA 4 on the midnight launch and waited in a looong ass queue. After finally finishing the game and practically seeing everything worth seeing in the city in only about 3 weeks, you know what? I'm bored.

GTA 4 is the one game in my collection which has contributed to my new found ultra cynicism to review scores. I have never played Saints Row but I've been following it's sequel and am damn impressed with the tons of things you'll be able to do which should keep me occupied for a long time.

I hope no one's going to talk about glitches. For me graphical glitches is annoying but if you want to REALLY annoy me, make the game freeze up suddenly. Anything that actually stops the game from working is an almighty bug (This is what made me trade in Assassin's Creed within a week only to repurchase it a month later when they "fixed" it) GTA 4 froze on me about four times until they patched it. Still noticing pop-ups in scenery so it is far from perfect.

Didn't like the fighting system AT ALL and never used it again once I acquired a firearm. Also, forget what everyone says the missions DO get repetitive and the only thing that saved it was the great characters and dialogue used.

Multiplayer is where I think GTA 4 shines and is really good fun, but getting that to work isn't always reliable.

For me GTA San Andreas was the best GTA as you could do a HELL of a lot more. If they could recreate that this gen AND add the multiplayer in GTA 4 then I think it'll deserve a 9.9 lol

On another note, I really wasn't a fan of GTA 4's ending as you didn't get to tie up one MAJOR loose end, unless there's multiple endings I missed.

I'll be willing to give Saint's Row 2 a try.

felidae6565d ago

this is just your opinion ... i love GTA IV because it's the first living, breathing videogame world.

to see all the people in streets doing their things plus all the traffic is totally awesome.

the main character is the best one ever created - he even kicks Nariko's a**

MK_Red6565d ago

Thanks for the great post. The thing is that no matter how good or bad you consider GTA4 to be, Saints Row is 10000 times worse. I still have that game (Haven't traded any of my 360 games so far) and I can't believe now how I could even play it back when it came out.
The thing is that IMO, GTA4 was a great sandbox game and not only back then Saints Row felt insanely unfinished and buggy, now it seems like a pre-alpha level sampler.

Seriously, EDGE is usually pretty positive in their previews. They were even positive when previewing Haze few months ago and we all know how bad Haze turned out to be. With this preview and vids I've seen of Saits Row 2 and considering the horrible mess of the original, I'm already excepting SR2 to be one of the worst games of 2008.

Shankle6565d ago (Edited 6565d ago )

I have to say I've found myself just ploughing through the GTA missions just to complete them. I really enjoyed it at first and the city is undeniably stunning, but now that I'm used to it, the missions are just becoming dull. There's no fluidity or immersion like there was in FPSs last year like Bioshock and COD4. Remember set pieces like the chopper crash and big daddy fights?
The combat system (not hand to hand) seemed pretty cool at first, because for GTA it's very fluid, but compared to Uncharted it feels clunky and awkward.
And the radio isn't anywhere near as good as Vice City.
"Oh my god there's blood and pubic hair all over the studio!"
Some of the multiplayer is good. Anything that involves a chase is great, but deathmatches are crap with the combat system as it is.

All in all, it's a stunning game on face value. The city feels real, the driving, now that I'm used to it, is great, the characters are brilliant, and police chases are better than ever, but the missions are too dull and the combat too clunky for me to call it a 10/10.

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Saints Row 2's Juiced Patch makes the PC port so much better it's criminal

Drive it like you stole it.

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Broken Games That Never Got Fixed

While a lot (like way too many) games launch in sorry states these days, a lot of them do eventually get polished up over time fixes. The same can’t be said for these properly broken games.

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Cacabunga275d ago

Worst for me is wipeout 2048.
I got gold in every single player race, made it extremely far into the great online shop platinum was a finger away.. then lost all my online progression. Many players experienced the same and hadn’t been fixed since

joab777276d ago

Cyberpunk and No Mans Sky are obviously the 2
best comeback stories. Cyberpunk is literally one of the best RPGs ever made now.

Christopher275d ago

I wouldn't call NMS broken at release, just under-delivered.

Michiel1989276d ago

junctioning is only broken now because it's been datamined which monster which gives which card and which card gives which items and every single spell to junction with the highest points for each stat. For it's time when that info wasn't readily available it was good, not without it's flaws, but not broken,

-Foxtrot275d ago

Exactly. I never got this because what made it broken was the knowledge of what to exploit.

Playing the game for the first time back then you never had any knowledge to make it so easy.

One minute the Junction system is complicated, the next it's super easy / broken. What is it?

gold_drake275d ago

i mean, ff8 is not "broken" per se, its just that the junction system is too good and easily exploited even an hour into the game. haha

Ashunderfire86275d ago

Star Wars Jedi Survivor is one of them. I can’t get in the Cantina bar later on in the game. The door and other doors throughout the environment is locked off. It is a shame, because I wanted to complete the game, but I can’t until they fix it.

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Ten best games from the 2000s you may have missed

The 2000s was a great decade for a lot of brilliant video games. Here are the ten best games of the 2000s that you may not have played.

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isarai1236d ago

You know usually when someone says "you may have missed" it's games that were lesser known, hidden gems, underrated games. These are all super high profile games that sold extremely well.

FPS_D3TH1235d ago (Edited 1235d ago )

You know the 2000s is 20 years ago too? Maybe, just maybe this wasn’t an article targeted to 30+ gamers? Still says at the very beginning of the title “THE BEST GAMES you may have missed”. Regardless of how well they sold there’s tons of gamers who haven’t touched these older well known games lol.

Welshy1235d ago (Edited 1235d ago )

It's games you "may have missed", insinuating you were around and gaming in the 2000's and were there to miss them. If it was aimed at everyone else then they missed literally everything, not just the top games.

The original commenter is right, this is a badly written article at best pointless at worst.

Crows901235d ago

Besides only being able to miss it if you were around during that time..if your point stands then this is a horrible list. Tons of better games people may have missed

XxINFERNUSxX1235d ago

I would like the original max payne remade in a new engine with ray tracing. 😊

FPS_D3TH1235d ago

Remedy games already working on that and I’m so stoked for it

XxINFERNUSxX1235d ago

Oh yeah thanks for reminding me I totally forgot they were doing it. Also what the hell happened to Kingpin: Reloaded? On Steam coming soon and nohting from the dev.

MadLad1235d ago

Yeah, I was just going to say. It's interesting seeing them back behind the series. Max Payne 3 was amazing, but then Rockstar just sat on the IP.
Well, they sit on virtually anything that isn't GTA and Red Dead now.

porkChop1235d ago

What is this list? These are all hugely popular games. I was expecting games like Dark Messiah of Might & Magic, Advent Rising, Arx Fatalis, etc.

FPS_D3TH1235d ago

the title didn’t say lesser known titles from the 2000s. This is 20 years ago now lol. Big assumption this list was made for older gamers.

Dirty_Lemons1234d ago

That makes me feel so old.

Inverno1235d ago

I've only played 3 on that list. Part of me feels bad about how little I used all the consoles I've owned as a kid. One bright side is, there's over 30 years of games to experience for the first time.

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