OnlySP: The mind behind Metal Gear Solid, Hideo Kojima, has been uncharacteristically talkative lately.
That seems to have more to do with the controversy surrounding the length of Ground Zeroes than anything else. He’s saying that Phantom Pain is going to be 200 times ‘bigger’ than Ground Zeroes, whatever that means. He’s had a few reasons for splitting the game up into two parts, which you may or may not accept, but at the end of the day it is a deliberately split up game.
300,000 Metal Gear games were sold during the first quarter of 2023, Konami has announced, bringing the total number to 59.8 million.
Do not worry they will give use those pichincko remakes for top dollar soon.
Metal gear solid 3 in the fox engine looked/ran amazing but was sealed away :(
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I know re-makes and stuff have been played to death this generation.
But damn I wouldn't mind an MGS4 remake
I thought the series would have sold more over all these years and different releases.
Metal Gear isn't that big, and there hasn't been a new release in years. Also MGS2 and 3 are still missing from digital storefronts.
5 mgs games in total if I'm not mistaken. 59 60 million seems about right. Mgs is dope to some of us but it would be hard for a lot of regulars to understand
Although there are notable exceptions (GTA, certain first-party Nintendo games, Gran Turismo), as a rule games didn't sell as much in earlier generations as they have in the past few generations. So a lot of PS1-PS2 era titles that are viewed as seminal games didn't actually sell all that much by today's standards (yes, despite the large install bases of those systems lol). I remember a similar surprised reaction happening a few months ago when Square announced the total overall sales of Final Fantasy VII.
Some of the best fun you can have online was the first metal gear online and to a lesser, but still fun to an extent, MGO2. The magazine, CQC, stealth, and tactical play Vs real players is just a blast. Not to mention playing Snake vs everyone? Amazing. The game will never be the same without Hideo, but Konami can definitely update what’s already there and take my money.
You wouldn't be talking about the OG MGO that was included with MGS3:S would you? It's rare running into another former player. Those were some of the best memories of any online game I had.
Yes my man!! That seems like the BEST game that nobody played! Tranquilizer pistol, drag the body to a corner and lay a girly mag right by their head so they wake up and instantly get caught by the mag. You could get real toxic if you wanted at that point, but man that game was incredible! The only thing annoying was that damn Konami ID
Hideo Kojima: "After the launch, many people seemed to expect GZ to be a full game."
People would have gotten “your intention” if you stated it from the beginning but people didn’t want smaller episode like MGS games.
He should have just focused on MGSV and work Ground Zeroes into that game instead
I don't remember there being confusion over Ground Zeroes being a full game. But then again I was just starting to catch up on the MGS series as a whole at that point so I might've not paid enough attention or simply have forgotten that there was confusion about it. I bet the whole Moby Dick Studios thing didn't help the casual observer understand what the hell was going on though.
I only got both MGSV games when Phantom Pain was already out and I kinda agree that it probably would've sucked if I had to wait one and a half years to pay The Phantom Pain after Ground Zeroes.
I'm sorry what now?
Who expected that?
If it was meant to be episodic or an experiment for that, the price should / would have reflected that
To be fair, there really wasn't enough content to actually justify even the smaller price tag. It was still half the cost of a full game, yet a 20th of the content.
I can't stand these paid glorified demos.
Honestly, it was basically similar to the FF15 Duscae demo. My theory is he was taking too damn long to make a game and Konami was like, “Sell what you got!” It just has kind of a scummy corporate “let’s sell this demo for half the price of a full game,” feel to it.
That’s just my take on it. I love Kojima and I love the MGS series, but this and 5 were the biggest let downs, ever. Clearly unfinished work forced out because, in Konami’s defense, Kojima was going over budget and taking forever on the project.
Lol, I loved Ground Zeroes, but releasing that level at $40 during a dryspell for games at the onset of the new gen was an obvious cash grab.
I handed over my money happily, but plenty of non-diehard fans were understandably letdown by the scale of what $40 bought them.
The price was originally $40 for the physical PS4 and XBO versions, but due to controversy it dropped down to $30 before launch. And as much as I love GZ, and even bought it twice, I do agree that $30 was too much. It should have launched at $20.
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I don't know how about anyone else. But i've bought it for $20 1 week after release (or $15, don't remember the exact exchange rate) and spent 24 hours beating every mission and getting all the steam achievements. I was 100% aware what the game was about beforehand though and i did enjoy every second of it. I knew it was a work in progress and it was probably the best and less restrictive game i've played in a long time (and controls were just perfect).
Even previous MGS games didn't gave me that much freedom as Ground Zeroes did.
Love stealth? Got you covered.
Want to speedrun? Here's the timer.
Wanna kill everyone? No problem, grab that AK then and let's party.
Wanna cause chaos? Just tell Pequod where to land.
Love to drive? Then go ahead.
Miss Raiden? Then play as him.
I wish they would continue MGSV, finish remaining chapters and add more missions as DLCs, there was SO many options... A poor man still can dream...
Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful. Everything about it is mechanically focused and aesthetically nuanced, and not a single thing feels out of place or without purpose. Big Boss moves about each environment with a pace that provides the perfect cadence to use all manner of gadgets in whatever ways you like.
You are incorrect and I will be taking this time to correct you. The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker Forsaken Fortress is stealth that no game has yet to match. Having Link, crawl, sneak and hide under a barrel is innovative stealth that Metal Gear Solid, Splinter Cell, Thief and Tenchu wish they had achieved. I rest my case.
Shit Metal Gear Solid game though
It's boring, empty, repetitive
Great mechanics and gameplay but it's just so dull....
I played it long after the hype had settled, and I had a blast with it. Strip away the disappointment over what it could have been, and you're still left with a great game
The gameplay loop was phenomenal, no question. From a gameplay standpoint it's an incredible stealth game.
"Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful."
Let's not pretend Kojima was entirely innocent there. The game was 5+ years into development, way over budget, and wasn't even halfway done. That's why Chapter 2 is so unfinished and Chapter 3 was scrapped entirely. He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made. The same thing happened with MGS: Rising. That's why the game got rebooted as MGR: Revengeance and was handed off to Platinum. That's the only way the game was going to get finished. And yet after wasting millions on a scrapped game, MGR only went on to sell a little over 1 million units. It was a failure no matter how you look at it.
That's why Kojima was "locked away" in his office for the final 6 months of development of MGSV. So the team could actually piece together and finish the game. Was Konami just supposed to let Kojima spend more than a decade with infinite funds to make one game? Kojima isn't Rockstar, his games don't sell 170+ million units. At some point the game has to come out.
I get that Konami are a garbage company but they aren't solely responsible for what happened with Kojima. As much as I love his games and will always be a fan, MGSV was almost entirely Kojima's fault and I'm tired of people pretending that it wasn't.
Can you prove any of what you're claiming? Because I've seen Kojima build a studio and release a AAA game in 3 years with Death Stranding. All I'm seeing here are the same conspiracy theories that people like to believe to confirm their biases towards certain people, same with Neil Druckmann. For instance, MGSV may have been in development for a while but you leave out that he was also having the FOX Engine developed alongside it, an engine so good that MGSV ran at 60fps on a PS4.
He's gone on record disputing that he ever goes over budget on very rarely has to delay his titles.
"He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made."
Where did you get this from?
Best gameplay of the series hand down, its not even close. Worst story in the series hand down, its not even close.
I can’t say it’s the best or the worse to me I stopped playing metal gear at the end of 4 the official end of the snakes saga and the best in my book was 3 snake eater excellent gameplay and excellent story telling giving us the reason for big boss to go and create his own country before the metal gear saga on the 4-8 bits consoles.
FoxTrot where 'you at, doggy? you must of wrote this. i knew it was only a matter of time before you started writing articles! >_<
yeah, yeah.. ill keep an eye out. something like this once in a while, especially as a fanservice, is no where near as bad as the DLC that has been pumping out in the last 7 years. ive done My share; i can litterally count on one hand the DLC ive bought last gen. socom confrontations Cold Cront DLC, operation flaspoint Extra missions, cod4 map pack, ummm, and little things like LBPvita TimeSaver DLC, 1 or 2 50.¢-$1.00 things in PS home and a $1.49 gun for KillZone Mercenarys.
and ill do the same if i see more and more people taking this trend. but for right now the last time i saw it done was 5 years ago for GT5p. so right now that cynical conspiracy BS can just **** me.
I totally agree with this article. This "game" is a testing ground for what might happen in the future. Just like DLC, when it started coming out, it was supposed to be a way to extend our game experience but in reality it was a sneaky way to get us to pay more and the general consumer has "accepted" it. This is going to happen more and more if Ground Zeroes is a success just like with Titanfall more online only multiplayer games will be $60.
"He’s saying that Phantom Pain is going to be 200 times ‘bigger’ than Ground Zeroes..."
Well I'll be! If someone can confirm that then I'm gobsmacked!
It's worth noting that this isn't the first time Kojima has released something of this sort. The VR missions for MGS were about half the price of the game, and didn't add much except repetitive VR training for fans of the series (like me).
Of course, GZ isn't quite the same sort of thing, and a comparison between them is necessarily difficult in light of the fact that none of us have played GZ yet.
I preordered GZ yesterday and will pick it up Tuesday. We'll see then what sort of buy this is, how much play we can get out of these side ops he talked about. I tend to get ridiculous with MGS games anyway - checking every detail, looking for all secrets, etc. So I'll get plenty hours out of the game. Will it be worth $30? I don't know, but I suspect it will be based on Kojima's record. Until any of us know what it's like, articles like this are irrelevant - based entirely on false premises and assumptions.
I wonder why the game couldn't be extended beyond camp omega. Why not give us the hospital part and escape with ocelot. We've all seen it already and its near the beginning of the game I'm assuming.