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Nintendo on why bringing Mario to iPhones is problematic

Veteran producer Kensuke Tanabe believes translating the controls appropriately to mobile devices would be a "really, really difficult task."

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iamnsuperman4465d ago (Edited 4465d ago )

We are not talking about Mario 64 here. But an old classic Mario game (like Super Mario Bros) is easy to port over. Just pick up an emulator plus game and see for yourself. Hey I am enjoying Pokemon blue on my tablet at the moment (I would have paid 69p for it too). But A new Mario? definitely not (that would be reckless on multiple levels).

zeal0us4465d ago (Edited 4465d ago )

I mention how Nintendo could port old classic games and usually get hit with "it would devalue the brand", "mobile controls sucks" , "It will stop people from buying WiiU's and 3DS's" or "Get a WiiU or 3DS if you want Nintendo games."

*Naysayers*
-Nintendo could charge the same price they charge on the e-shop on mobile. This would help avoid devaluing the brand. There's no magical rule stating Nintendo must charge 99 cent. Square Enix charge up to $15 for their mobile FF games.

-Mobile controls are not complex or difficult to use. If you can text then using mobile controls will be a cakewalk. If you don't like mobile controls then you could always use an external controller. Both iOS and AndroidOS support external controllers.

-The people that are on the fence about buying a WiiU or 3DS usually want the WiiU and 3DS for specific games. The type of games that will never release on mobile like X, Bayonetta 2, New Super Smash Bros or etc.

iamnsuperman4465d ago

I do to but the people who talk about brand devaluation don't understand that devaluation would be down to poor marketing. If they just release the games under Nintendo then it would have a small impact on sales and brand recognition. Nintendo needs to sell this stuff under a store (like Nintendo classics) or through a distribution name/service (like Nintendo classics) to highlight these are not going to be new games but old "classics".

I do disagree with price though. If Nintendo wants to have an impact they would need to sell these games dirt cheap otherwise they really won't sell. 99 cents is a great level for something that cost almost nothing to port over.

mikel10154465d ago

That would devalue the virtual console pretty much.

iamnsuperman4465d ago (Edited 4465d ago )

Does the VC have any real value since it is just part of the store? Surely releasing a virtual console (though I wouldn't call it that as I would call is Nintendo classics to highlight the store's focus) on other devices would increase its value (since most of the VC is made up of pre 64 titles). They are nice extras to buy but it never becomes an important service for potential Nintendo hardware buyer.

If I was Nintendo I would keep the 64 games to the Wii U/Wii....(Nintendo stuff) but release the VC under a new name (Nintendo Classics or something like that) which focuses on releasing old gameboy and pre 64 games (which could also include some cross buy/save feature. Play on your phone and your home console)

ChickeyCantor4465d ago (Edited 4465d ago )

It devalues the products (wiiu/3ds) to a degree. Because if you want to play classic Nintendo games you do it on their system.

Sure you can emulate it yourself but ^ that's the legal way.

If people buy it mainly to play a lot of classic games then mobile development would probably give them less of an incentive to buy WiiU/3ds hardware.

LOL_WUT4465d ago

Devalue the Virtual console? Have you seen the WiiU's VC lately? It's a complete joke! At this point in time the Wii had a bigger library of classic games. Like I said before it'll benefit them greatly. Don't know why the fanboys get so defensive when this topic is brought up. ;)

Benjaminkno4465d ago (Edited 4465d ago )

It is lacking.

Hoxever, Ps4 has next to nothing that Ps3 has. At least WiiU is everything Wii was besides a GameCube. Why previous DL games on Ps3 don't transfer is a bit... disappointing. My 40gig died years ago and I'd love to play Castle Crashers or Bionic Commando.
I'm glad I bought MegaMan 9 on Wii.

But maybe that's coming from a fanboy... though a bit off-topic.

Benjaminkno4465d ago

Indubitably.

Why not have Nintendo collaborate with Apple? People are already using emulators.

What better way to advertise your own hardware than licensing old games, and then putting up DEMOS of new games, all on iTunes?

Th3o4464d ago

I think this is more about the principle of the matter. To be frank, Nintendo's one strong suite is it's games. If they ever lost them, it would be very likely that we would see them step into the same direction as Sega. They would make games only.

Let's face it, in terms of hardware Nintendo hasn't been as competitive as any other. Their main market atm is the mobile one (Ds,3Ds etc). Think about them licensing their games to iOS or Android...it would mean only true gamers would ever purchase the actual console instead of using their phone (because of buttons).

The casual gamers would be more than happy to use their cell phones with on screen keys, and the hardcore gamers that are clever will just use a BT controller if they ever wanted to. (Or Nvidia shield:P).

My opinion is that Nintendo made the right move to keep their games home. This way we can expect quality games from them, and not shovelware like Wii (although no NINTENDO made game was actually shovelware...but you've seen how this could get out of hand on mobile market)

Nodoze4464d ago

It is very simple, they will not pay Apples 30% tax to release on their platforms.

Now if they were to negotiate with apple to pay 10% I say they should release at least 1 game as a test. The deal with Apple would be for platform exclusivity (I.e no Android).

KonsoruMasuta4464d ago

That would be the dumbest idea ever. Forget the fact that Nintendo putting games on mobile devices is dumb.

It's dumb for a number of different reasons. First, Apple would never make a deal for only 10%. Second, why would they make it exclusive to Apple platforms? The number of Android users are growing at a faster rate than users of Apple devices. Soon, Apple's share in the market will be close to nothing.

Nodoze4464d ago (Edited 4464d ago )

Easy with the insults. Exclusivity is what makes a platform/console/phone etc unique. I would bet that Apple WOULD reduce royalty rates to obtain Nintendo titles on their platform exclusively.

I mean if Nintendo released them to Android they would be pirated and posted within hours of release.

Oh and if Nintendo releasing titles to mobile devices is such a dumb idea, why is EVERYONE talking about it INCLUDING Nintendo? Come on now, grow up.

KonsoruMasuta4464d ago

I think you need to grow up! I didn't insult you. I said your idea was dumb, not you. You don't understand how Apple works with their App store. The reason they have their royalties that high is so they are guaranteed a large cut of the profit.

And again, Android users will soon outnumber users of Apple devices, as Android devices are more appealing to consumers. They're cheaper, and you can do almost anything thingyou can do on a IPad or IPhone. Why would Nintendo put all of their money on a horse that's losing the race?

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U.S. patent examiner rejects Nintendo’s summoning characters patent as obvious: non-final ruling

The rejection is non-final (and even when such rejections are labeled as “final”, the process is far from over, given that there can be, at minimum, an appeal to the Federal Circuit).

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Relientk7755d ago (Edited 55d ago )

Good, as they should! A game mechanic like that shouldn't be locked behind a patent, and Nintendo didn't invent it either.

PRIMORDUS54d ago (Edited 54d ago )

Nintendo wants to keep wasting money on bullshit lawsuits, real smart in this economy. They should put that money aside for other game projects. On the other hand, I don't care if they waste it all either, and they are screwed in the future maybe that will teach them a lesson.

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Nintendo Completes Share Repurchase and Sets Price for Secondary Offering

Nintendo completed its share repurchase and set its secondary offering price at 8,347 yen ahead of March 16 delivery.

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Nintendo Suing U.S. Government Over Tariffs

Nintendo filed a lawsuit in the United States Court of International Trade.

Nintendo of America is suing the United States government over the sweeping tariffs President Donald Trump put in place last year, according to a complaint filed Friday in the U.S. Court of International Trade and obtained by Aftermath.

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Deathdeliverer80d ago

Well dayum lol. Old agent orange pissing off every industry and nation.

0hMyGandhi79d ago

The fact that you have ANY disagrees will forever baffle me. And to the (apparent) MAGA contingent that exists on this website, enjoy your 8-9 dollar gas.

AuraAbjure79d ago (Edited 79d ago )

Yes, they had better be pissed after Trump told them the way they rip off the USA is over.

EveryPlatformGamer80d ago

LOL I read this on gaff, will they refund the money back to the gamers? highly unlikely. Didn't they just raise prices and pass it onto the gamers? Only Nintendo would send out the Ninjas to the US government.

-Foxtrot80d ago

That’s what I was thinking, imagine them winning hypothetically, getting a s**t load of money back which they would have lost if they hadn’t raised their prices and it’s business as normal.

It would just mean people paid more for no reason since they got the money back anyway.

Outside_ofthe_Box79d ago (Edited 79d ago )

A lot of companies partially passed the cost to consumers instead of all of it. They would still have to at least pay that back to gamers, but we know that won't happen. What's also sad is that prices won't come back down after the initial hike caused by tariffs.

People didn't understand the full repercussions of tariffs. That alone should have cost him the presidency if people knew it was a permanent price hike for consumers

Inverno80d ago

The people should sue these companies for having to over pay cause of these tariffs.

Eonjay80d ago

Naw they should sue the government for forcing the tax to begin with. No one reasonably expects these companies to absorb the taxes. Many smaller companies tried and were shut down or faced to increase prices to try to maintain their business. The tariffs effect everyone.

Inverno78d ago

I meant it mostly as a joke cause we all know the costs of these tariffs were passed onto the consumer. But it's seems no matter how vocal we are here in the states our "representatives" don't seem to care enough to represent us. And things are about to get worse.

Killer2020UK78d ago

The companies were doing what the law required then to do, the tariffs however were illegally implemented. Usually it's criminals we punish, you seem to have different ideas 🤷‍♂️

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