So this guy makes a comment and you guys call him a troll and talk about what he has posted in the past all to discredit his opinion? He must have hit a nerve and from what I see in his post about the Kinect he is dead on. You spend time and energy on this person when if you have the Microsoft product it should be you who is calling out Microsoft about the kinect after all it's real clear if you don't they will never support iit. They will keep trolling you along. Lol and why? They already have what they want from you, your money. And they'll troll you just enough for you to keep giving them more. In my opinion Xbox One owners not all but those who come to sites like this and defend them on every thing they do simply need to do one thing......Raise Your Standards!

I think this time around MS is using kinnect to make the the xbox easier to control and to interact with. It has less to do with gaming. I understand why they did it and if the price was not so high they would have more success selling it. The features it has are really appealing to the casual crowd throw in the ability to hook up your cable box and it's sure to be a crowd pleaser, they just have to change the price at 299.00 it would fly off the shelves.

Microsoft doesn't NEED to anything. It's been 3 months since it's release. PEOPLE just need to shut up and wait. The main flagship title, Kinect Sports Rivals, isn't even out yet.

Always such Kinect hate from people who don't even own an Xbox One. It's hilarious.

@Illionaire: You come across as just one of many here who just create and account because you have and anti-M$ , Xbox or Kinect agenda. The article is not talking about the existence of Kinect, but its inclusion in the X1 package. So how do you get M$ as trying to justify Kinect for 4 year, when the people who have been buying them for 4 year clearly got out of their beds and when and seek them out and bought them. Kinect has only been included with Xbox mandatorily for 3 months. It would have been nice if M$ had Kinect Sports and a few more crowd pleasing apps that are just fun not fitness, but it is quite obvious to me that both Sony and M$ were more concerned on how to release new hardware that can yield a profit that they were at insuring adequate software was ready to fully support it after release.

So what we have here are promises of better days ahead. Will Kinect be justified to all including those who would never by and X1 anyway? NO. Will there be better games and software that uses it in innovative ways? YES. We have a long way to go in this console life cycle. Asking someone to pay upfront on promises of better is risky and a horrible selling strategy in my book, but many of us have bought into this base on our pass experiences with these companies and the potential we see in the hardware.

@Illionaire - Whilst I do think kinect is a waste (For me), you have to admit the response of the in game character was pretty sharp.
Now I do know the video lag of the camera, but it does seem pretty responsive.
credit where its due

@Illionaire

Of course you can claim many gamers don't care about the device, while also excluding that many do in fact like it. Of course you're going to hear "countless" claims of people not liking the Kinect online - this is how it always is. It's always the ones with the complaints or the disagree-ers with the loudest voices, regardless how many of them there are.

Go into any number of multiplayer games on Xbox One, and you will likely hear "xbox record that," "xbox unsnap," "xbox stop listening" or other commands over voip. The fact is, there are a lot of people who use the Kinect and appreciate what it brings. But then I'd imagine your argument you be "using it and liking it are different things," which would then begin the cyclical game of semantics and shifting arguments.

You also seem to put All the blame on the device while conveniently leaving out some key points.

1. There are optimal operating settings for the device, including distance from the player both horizontal and vertical, room lighting, voice volume/clarity, etc. So people who set it right next to their speakers and blast them, or people who don't speak clearly or loud enough, yeah, you might run into some problems. Sure, you could label these as shortcomings of the device, but they are known shortcomings, so for people to disregard them and then complain about less than favorable results, well that's human error.

The Kinect is a console peripheral available at retail cost, so if you or others are expecting it to work flawlessly every time, you are sorely mistaken. However, if you do calibrate it correctly and set it up in a favorable position, it does work work well. Since I've had mine it's had around 80-85% success rate, both with gestures and voice.

2. You also fail to acknowledge that developers are responsible for how their games interact with Kinect and how well they do it, which is why some games that use Kinect are abysmal, while others work well. The Kinect is simply a tool, and some can be better at using it than others.

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As for other comments here, many of you are putting way too much emphasis on motion controls. A game can make excellent use of the Kinect, without ever engaging in motion controls. When I see people comment with the "flailing your arms" response, it tells me they have little to no experience with the Kinect, and are deliberating choosing their words to cast a negative shadow on the device. "Flailing?" Really? What, are these people on fire?

Basically what your saying is that Microsoft included Kinect because Xbox fans love Kinect.

Hey, thanks for straightening us BLOWNY phan.bois. out.

with your army of 4.

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They do need to justify it, because right now it's creating an unnecessary price hike on a console that's loosing pretty badly in sales. An extra $100 for some hand gestures and voice controls is not justified to many people, especially when those things can just be done the traditional way, with a controller.

So what if Kinect has a Guinness World Record? It was the hot, new item/gimmick back then for families and casuals that quickly collected dust. It was rarely used for anything other than exactly what the new kinect is being used for....hand gestures and voice controls.

MS DO need to justify it the new Kinect, because people right now are asking for it to be removed and sold separately....unless you count hand gestures, voice controls and 'Fighter Within' as justified?

Kinect is an unnecessary gimmick, it always has been and always will be unless we start getting PROPER games for it, not games with pre-set paths, super basic controls and limits on player movement/interaction.

Also, what is up with 3/4 of your comment being completely off topic? 1080p? Cloud? Wtf....Stop raging all over your keyboard and stick to the topic.

Sir, what does you argument of resolutions and cloud have to do with a piece of hardware most of gamers don't want? I really don't understand your comment!

Holy shit dude...You just took it to a whole new level of stupid. You do know that all those games you just listed are on the PS4(exclusives withstanding), and running better on the PS4 as well right??? Killzones 1080p60fps multiplayer says hi.
By the way, anyone that has half way decent eyes can see that The Order is graphically the best title shown on next-gen to date.

Yes once again Axios uses statistics and gets them wrong.

He says 24million isn't a failure. Actually it is a massive failure. It's quite the opposite of 'record breaking'.

What this in reality showcases is the pull and trust MICROSOFT ONCE HAD. Because it doesn't have it any longer.

Once upon a day, when Microsoft wasn't seen as Pinky and more as the Brain, they promised the moon, the sun, the stars...and Milo.

So thank you for showcasing that 10 of those 24 million came in the first 4 months.

Imagine that almost half of the Kinect's purchases were in the first 4 months, and the other half (little bit more) took the next 36 months or so.

So 10 million in 4 months on hype
14 million in the next 36 months based on a reality entering the picture.

Looks like a pretty similar trend being set for the XB1 as well. Decent sales at first, then a massively drop off.

Once again you also forget to talk about things other then resolution. It's the trifecta of framerate, resolution, and graphical quality/effects.

Your 1080p list also showcases the problems with the XB1. Notice they are mostly fighting, driving, and other small box games. Games with small playing areas.

The smaller the play area, the less power is used. The problem is, many of the best games are open world or almost open world games. This is only going to increase.

1920x800 still beats most XB1 games, and it still is native pixel resolution, thus it will be 1080p except with black bars. But the part you see and play, will be of 1080p quality.

Also do you even know that one of the reasons why <1080p is bad is not just that it's a lower resolution, but because of the nature of HDTV's and them being fixed pixel display. It means if it's not 1:1 pixel mapping, which 1920x800 still provides 1:1 pixel mapping, then there is additional degradation beyond that simply of it being a lower resolution.

I also see you omitted the largest list of games of them all, the ones running at 720p.

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.