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Why Microsoft Is Ruining This Console Generation

NerdBurglars "The first hit for the Xbox One came when they announced the console always had to be online and would not allow games to be traded. The main reason this was annoying was how Microsoft reacted to it. They tried defending the features and tried to convince people how the features would benefit the users while never truly explaining what the true constraints and details of the features were. Like everyone else I had not seen much of the console so I really couldn't bash it on those reasons alone so I gave Microsoft the benefit of the doubt once they announced they had removed these constrains on the system."

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Kingthrash3604471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

good read, and proof that all lies come to light. in say september the constant lying and truth bending let me know to stay away from the console, at least for a year or so...now today i dont think i'm gunna pick it up... and i want to pick it up mind you, but its so much fog around the system how can i?...this is just my opinion tho my preference really.
if someone like the x1 then by all means enjoy it...its just not for me.

OC_MurphysLaw4471d ago

Right off the bat the article is in-accurate. "would not allow games to be traded". In fact MS did have a trade-in and gifting system they discussed. Was it free from limitations no, certainly not. But there is a misguided notion that MS was not going to allow people to trade in used games or give a game to someone.

Kingthrash3604471d ago

i dont want anyone "allowing" me to do what i will with something i paid for.
like honda "allowed" me to trade in my paid in full car.
it's mine, i paid for it. if i want to sell it for magic beans it my choice to make.
face it bro ms was trying to control its customers and they have and still are paying for that attempt.

Akuma074471d ago

The restrictions on the so called trade-in and gifting systems were their biggest flaws, and basically ruined it. There was no traditional trade-in or gifting at all. This is what people wanted, to be able to do what they want with their games, free of a manufacturers restrictions.

TFJWM4471d ago

They had a gifting system but didn't explain it. As for trading in games, how could you trade in a game if the disc is useless. It was to allow you to install the game but the game would be tied to the system.

Pogmathoin4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

Regardless, someday in the near future, all games will be digital. Steam does ot already, no big deal. MS was to be the first to bring it to your living room. Backfired big time. Sony mocked MS, but themselves will do the same thing. As for ruining things.... The poster of this article, the anti anything good......

Kingthrash... Your comment below... Makes me think you been drinking..... You ok?

redwin4470d ago

@king. If you want to sell your honda the buyer has to pay tax on the fair value of the car when he registers the car in his name. So, exchange is not exactly free isn't it? You where also able to exchange games with someone through family sharing. Mmmmmm, I think we are the biggest threat to gaming. We demand bigger and better for the same price from our end there is nothing wrong with that, but if you are a publisher it's not so easy. I let the companies try anything new, I'll try it and if I don't like it after trying it then I won't support it anymore. Speak with your wallets, but don't say you don't like pizza with vodka sauce if you never tried it... My point exactly !

DragonKnight4470d ago

@Dlacy13g: The fact that they had to have a system for what should NOT be up to them means that, no, you in fact could not just trade your games. What you could do is find a Microsoft approved retailer or follow a Microsoft approved trading process and follow guidelines for what you could get for your game, all based on rules and regulations that Microsoft and their partners set up. That's not how trading works. That's more of a contract situation where you're being treated like a criminal and should count yourself lucky you're not getting sued for daring to try and sell your game to whoever you want.

MS were NOT going to allow you to just put your game collection on craigslist for a price you wanted to sell it for, therefore it's not a misconception that MS wasn't going to allow people to trade in used games or give a game to someone willy nilly. Hell, the fact they had such restrictive DRM was proof enough that they weren't going to allow used games. Not without heavy limitations.

madpuppy4470d ago

Give me a break! MS so called "trade in Program" was a joke! what little information they squeaked out... seeing that they were killing themselves to hide major parts of what they planned when it came to DRM. and everything they did say would change depending who was interviewed.
Only a great FOOL would stupid enough to think what MS was doing with DRM was a great idea.

Kryptix4470d ago (Edited 4470d ago )

@Pogmathoin

"Sony mocked MS, but themselves will do the same thing."

They're a major backer of the Blu-ray disc and was also the same people that brought us the DVD so I really doubt it. I believe they'll back up physical and digital equally which is what Microsoft should also be doing since not everyone has blazing fast internet. What's wrong with having different choices?

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OpieWinston4471d ago

Anything that bashes X1 you'll call "good read"
Because you're just an Anti Microsoft hater...GTFO kid.

Kingthrash3604471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

lol funny guy.
no anything stating the truth is a good read bro.
anti microsoft...foo i'm useing windows as we speak MS is coo so is the x1...but that doesnt make them great salesmen..lol deal with it, dont like it the get a 360, 720 just as good as 1080, x1 the most powerful console in the world, x1 wont work without drm, x1 wont work without kinect, etc,etc,etc...it really goes on and on. i didnt forget, because i am anti false advertisement tho. anti drm, anti blatant lies.
but if supporting this practice is your thing then by all means enjoy this way of selling products. i wont..i will watch them because they are a big part of gaming and were one of the best when the 360 was out...now that they got loyals they are trying to take advantage of them and thats just bad imo....yes imo, some are ok with that and thats cool this is my opinion thats all if you dont like it then dont read it. im not the only one with this opinion.

also i barley ever say "good read" i've only said that twice. smh

Ratty4471d ago

Anti Microsoft hater? Doesn't that mean he's against Microsoft haters? Or does it mean that's he hates people who are against Microsoft?

buffalo10664470d ago

there is hating microsoft and there is acknowledging the truth. hating nazis makes you a nazi hater but there is just reason for it. there is also just reason for disliking microsoft because they are a selfish deceptive company who are pulling down this generation with their poor marketing and underpowered console

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Death4471d ago

I read the article after I seen you said "good read". I'm dissappointed in both of you now. Constant lying and truth bending? The author doesn't believe cloud compute is possible since we haven't seen the benefit 3 months in. I would agree if he stated he was dissappointed in cloud processing to this point since we really haven't seen proof it works. If you research cloud compute you will see it is very impressive and has near unlimited possibilities. I'm skeptical it can be done on consoles for gaming though. A game similar to Titanfall that had to be connected would be the only real candidate in my opinion. Developing a game that performs both on and offline using cloud compute doesn't sound efficient to me. Time will tell.

As for the entire online arguement, it was a once every 24 hour check to verify your library. The upside was all your games could be ripped to the HDD and not needed for verification in the drive. You could also access them remotely from another Xbox One which meant you didn't need to take your library with you. I like the idea and am not scared that the system needed to be connected to the internet once a day.

Kingthrash3604471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

tf = cloud computing. remember.
the check in..well you gotta not think of your self...you would be surprised how many gamers dont have a internet connection...yeah our connection works well enough, so much so we can comment on n4g right now...but many others all over the world not so much...so a brick xbox would be bought by the uninformed and the loyalists would be forced to buy a ps4, wiiu, or add another bill and get internet or if the area is not connected they are stuck.
also some have connection but have a limit to how much gb they can use a month...so bigger bills for them or a bricked system...trust when they tell you the console gaming world isnt ready for always online/check-in policies in gaming.

BABYLEG4471d ago

You'll be surprised how many people dont have a car.

GamingNerd0134470d ago

Here's the problem fist yes it was the 24 check in y cause not everyone has good connections or heck no connection at all and last most of all what happens to the system if the house electricity goes off? I think this is the most truthful article I read in a while everything he said is spot on and the truth wich y their r so many people that have a bad taste for MS with what they tried to do to their consumers and constant lying about everything that comes out of their mouths and 4 that people don't forget and will remember the BS MS tried to pull on people like forcing kenect that nobody freaking wants.

DragonKnight4470d ago

@Death: Cloud compute is a farce and a myth right now. Every test of cloud compute done to allegedly enhance graphics required the use of 1 to 2 additional gpus that were hardware based. Cloud compute is also not something Microsoft invented, and isn't completely new technology, so the fact that Microsoft were hyping it up as being able to make the Xbox One as powerful as 3 Xbox One's well before the launch means that criticism and ridicule of the fact that they have produced NOTHING of what they claim cloud compute can do completely acceptable and expected.

There is no upside. Don't try to sugarcoat Microsoft claiming each and every Xbox One owner is a criminal. There is no reason why all your games can't be ripped to the HDD now, MS just took their ball home because thankfully the majority of gamers in the world don't share your dangerous love of Microsoft and their anti-consumer tactics. There is also nothing stopping MS from implementing remote access either. Hell, Sony is the one that started game sharing as a feature on the PS3 and guess what they didn't require? An online check in to verify your library.

Are you admitting that Sony is capable of doing something Microsoft seemingly can't, or are you admitting that Sony doesn't suspect that every Playstation user is a criminal the way Microsoft does?

H0RSE4470d ago

@king

"the check in..well you gotta not think of your self...you would be surprised how many gamers dont have a internet connection..."

- why would people without internet buy a console that requires it? It's like claiming the Amish would be upset because the X1 requires electricity - it's a non-issue.

"so a brick xbox would be bought by the uninformed and the loyalists would be forced to buy a ps4, wiiu, or add another bill and get internet or if the area is not connected they are stuck."

If you are in the position where you do not have internet access, First I would question what you are doing spending $500 on a game console. Even the cheaper PS4 requires internet and a subscription to access much of its "bread and butter" features via PS+.

But even if I look past that, if you were able to purchase a console that requires internet without the topic of internet ever coming up, especially since you don't have internet, (so you'd think you would bring that up,) then I would just consider that a case of learning from your mistakes...

"also some have connection but have a limit to how much gb they can use a month...so bigger bills for them or a bricked system.."

- again, if this was the case, why would you buy a console that requires internet? It's like someone with a prepaid phone complaining because long distance calls keep using up all their minutes.

buffalo10664470d ago

the issue with the cloud isnt that we havnt seen it working its that logically it doesnt appear that it can work. processing is a lightning fast action with data sent across super fast data bus lines. doing this over usb 3.0 isnt even logical never mind the internet. why do you think usb graphics cards arent a thing

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Automatic794471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

Why is everyone wasting time discussing something that did not come to pass.

kingthrash is a troll

Don't you get tired of hearing yourself.

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UncleGermrod4471d ago

I'm pretty sure the fog has cleared. I don't really think there is any thing to be hidden any loner. 3-4 months ago, I could fully understand people feeling this way. But at this point, you know what your are getting, so if you choose not to get it than i guess it isn't for you.

Kingthrash3604471d ago

the fog did clear and with the price drop i would have considered it..but that new boss caused more fog to come...for me at least.
understand this, i always get all consoles so to experience all games that appeal to me. no matter the brand. i dont have brand loyaly. i've NEVER said xbone or pony in my comments because that what loyalists do. i look more into whats good for me and my habit. gaming in full is my habit. but i work in retail, i know the lies and truth bending companies do to get sales. that what i've seen from ms this gen.
the new boss brings fog from what his past shows and what he said about the xbox. the future of the brand is instantly unknow with this guy, i comment on this because i care about the branch. if i didnt i'd be happy not concerned..i'd be rubbing it in not showing my dislike of this guy at the helm....imo it was a bad move...after many bad moves they make more and more bad moves. there is a method to this madness and it mostly points at a closure.

HomerDog4471d ago

Of course I should have known it was maria with this article. This site is ridiculous

DragonKnight4470d ago

Did you report the article?

FlunkinMonkey4470d ago

For a 5 day old account, you certainly know a lot about this site and Maria..

I put it forward that secondary accounts are more troublesome to this site.. Quit your yapping. You know where the door is.

HomerDog4470d ago

Yes I did get banned the only way to survive in n4g is to not say anything negative about sony or it considered trolling. But I see many people do the same and just troll xbox everyday and no one seems to care.

LexHazard794470d ago (Edited 4470d ago )

Of course its a good read. Its a negative MS article from one of my favorite submitters Maria. Keep em coming, good job!

Edit: Sarcasm...

starchild4470d ago

A better article would be "Why fanboys are ruining this console generation".

DragonKnight4470d ago

Unless this was titled "why Sony is ruining this console generation" in which you'd be all to happy to participate in offering your opinion as to why they are.

AngelicIceDiamond4470d ago

Well I can't wait for Titanfall along with XBL update and twitch stream update.

Stories like these don't effect me as a gamer not one bit especially considering when I know EVERYTHING MS did this past year.

This is quite frankly your everyday anti Xbox hate article.

One guy's opinion doesn't translate the world or the whole industry like a said this just a run of the mill piece that I've heard/read countless times over and, over and, over and, over again.

If your gonna make a 100th hate Xbox piece at least make it interesting because this is horrible I mean downright terrible piece...of crap.

Titanfall in 2 weeks can't wait!

kickerz4470d ago

good read??? thats the worst pile of horse shi_ ive ever looked at.

Gamer19824470d ago

This article hits nails on heads everywhere.. Though the title I would say is wrong it doesn't mean they are ruining the generation because of these reasons.. Just they are basically duping there own fans and people who buy their consoles.

2cents4470d ago

Fanboys are ruining this generation.

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Concertoine4471d ago

Good lord, even if they were doing that bad and assuming they would stay that consistently evil, how would that ruin this gen. There's 2 other companies also putting out good games.

lolCHILLbro4471d ago

Well im on Xbox One and im enjoying this console generation so far and its going to get even better on March 11th with TITANFALL!!

CYCLEGAMER4471d ago

@lolCHILLbro
I agree, I purchased both and have been enjoying the xb1 and its games more. I think the fanboys are the ones that are truly ruining this generation, out of pure hatred (for MS) boredom, and jealousy.

georgeenoob4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

Exactly. It's the fanboys ruining this gen. Constant articles bashing X1 full of hatred, even though MS is listening to feedback and improving X1 accordingly.

The recent and upcoming update is evidence that MS is vibrant in improving the gamer experience. We got MS execs like Phil Spencer listening to requests bringing back beloved classic franchises on top of the nearly dozen AAAs already announced. Yep, totally ruining this gen. You wish.

PoSTedUP4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

@melman- the hate is comming from 360 gamers, too. and all the hate in the world didnt stop sony last gen even at $600 (without tax and games, and lack of games) and it still was out pacing 360 in its respective time frame, and they didnt ruin last gen either. so i think that is a poor excuse and seems to be Actual Legitimate reasons for the hate on MS. which im glad to see people waking up and not supporting crappy practices and realizing which company cares the most about gamers and their needs. MS was good last gen, there are only a few reasons why such a big 180 this gen and ill tell you: none of them are positive; which is what people are seeing now.

@gerogenoob: sony fans didnt say last gen "boohoo the fanboys are ruining teh generation" with all of the ps3 hate... bc they werent. the fans and gamers were reacting accordingly to what the companys were doing. and again, thats what you see here.

Automatic794471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

I agree chillbro some of these trolls are annoying. Love my Xbox one can't wait for titanfall

Concertoine4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

The console's power, design etc are irrelevant if it builds a decent library of titles. The real problem is MS's descisions regarding the console. If they fall behind far, thats when they'll start making their policies more favorable and start producing more exclusives, like they did to get their foot in the door with the xbox, like they did to get a sizeable market share with the 360.
I honestly dont want MS on top. They produce their best content when overcoming adversity.

CYCLEGAMER4471d ago

@postedup
I doubt that it is 360 fans that are trolling developers, toy sites, petitioning for games to be on ps4, and crying about resolutions. We all know Sony fans are the most vocal on the internet, and us living in the digital age, people are more and more influenced by what they read on the internet, than what is actually happening and what it "actually is". Case in point, I have people at work who know very little about gaming, telling me that the xb1 is all digital, only does 720p while the ps4 has all of the new games and all of its games are in 1080p 60fps. This not true, but who do you think they are hearing that from? TROLLS ON THE INTERNET!

The ps3's problems are completely different from the xb1's problems, the ps3's problems where its price and lack of games. The xb1's problems are PR, it's marketing strategy, price, and internet trolls.

Word from the wise...DRM is the future of gaming whether we want to admit it now or not. MS problem was that they tried it to early and people aren't exactly ready for it. Both of these companies have the same goals but are taking different routes to get to that same place, which is DRM, and to take over your living room. The difference is that one is taking the direct approach, while the other is taking the backroad. I.E. what do you think Playstation now is??? Do you honestly think that if this works out that they will just stop at providing ps2-3 games?? This is Sony's "backroad" to drm as they prepare themselves for the future.

PoSTedUP4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

@melman-people trolling and some of the hatred for MS are two totally different things. you said hatred, and prelaunch, it was pissed 360 fans, as well. that is what i meant.

the ps3s problems were different, yes very good. but that has nothing to do with my point in what i said. you said fanboys are runing this generation, when, last gen it was the opposite way around and they didnt ruin last gen. the specific problems only affect the respective companys that bring the problems upon themselves, the gamers react accordingly, and that is what you see here. im not saying MS are ruining this generation, but themselves, and quite frankly, they had it comming to them.

Insomnia_844471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

I would like to politely invite all of you to STFU already with the "fanboys are ruining this gen" "this/that site is biased" "this/that site have become Sony pro". Seriously, please stop. Did you want all the bashing the PS3 had last gen to stop? Did you hear PS3 fans say "360 fanboys are ruining this gen"??

Grow tfu and open your eyes!!! You are the kind of people Microsoft takes advantage of. Blind and dumb as fck!!!!

LoydX-mas4470d ago

@insomnia 84,

Pot calling the kettle black.

GordonKnight4470d ago

Nintendo has it way worse than MS, when it comes to fanboys and trolls. Now there are those delusional Nintendo fanboys, but their far & few. Gamers just need to have fun with what they like and stop talking smack.

I can't wait for Titanfall, Mario Kart 8 & InFamous second son!!!!!

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christocolus4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

Exactly...these articles are getting really pathetic, companies will always hype their products and try to tell consumers why they should go with theirs..its not an uncommon practice. This writer makes it look like iys only ms doing this....smh

@dagr.......r

What are you on about now?....smh.

DaGR8JIBRALTAR4471d ago

You'll listen to lies all day but run from the truth...typical fanboy logic.

PoSTedUP4471d ago

i agree. also i think now would be the best time for someone else to enter the console market. nintendo is getting their asses handed to them and MS is getting so much hate/ had so many technical fouls; someone with the right budget could be the next best alternative to the PS4, imo. 3 months after launch and you getting outsold by the ps3 is not a good sign for xbox. someone should buy nintendo and show them how online is done. hopefully their sales improve with games but its not likely bc ive seen soo many X1 commercials and a bunch of WiiU commercials (which had a horrible marketing message. really, it made Leap Frog look more appealing..) and WiiU sales are still not greal and X1 sales dipped significantly (even with all these manufacturers promoting them like crazy).

starchild4470d ago (Edited 4470d ago )

Exactly. I own a gaming PC and PS4, but don't own an XB1 and if I decide to get one down the line that is my choice. Nobody is holding a gun to our heads demanding that we buy a certain console.

If you like Xbox, get and Xbox. If you like Playstation, get a Playstation. Same goes for any other platform.

Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo don't do anything that ruins gaming. The biggest thing that affects my day to day enjoyment of my hobby are fanboys. I can't go on any gaming site and just interact positively with other gamers without immediately being inundated by the vitriol and toxic behavior of fanboys.

@Insomnia_84 and PoSTeUP

The problem with your comparison is that it simply isn't true. The PS3 didn't get a quarter of the hate. There were problems and concerns people had that were written about, but by and large it wasn't so blatantly fanboy driven. Sony fans took great offense to anything remotely negative said about Sony and have exaggerated things even further in their heads over time.

Go find a "negative PS3 article" from back then and read the comments. Yes, there were a few Xbox fanboy trolls, but nothing even close to the numbers and extreme hate that we see from the Sony fanboys. There is a huge difference and if you can't see it it's probably because you are some of the ones guilty of it.

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ErcsYou4471d ago

Technically they are ruining "their" console generation. Sony seems to be doing just fine and Nintendo is ruining themselves.

DonDon4471d ago

^ Wisest words ever spoken.

AgitatedOcelot4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

I think what you see is a product of fear. That is to say people are still having lingering fears that going forward the games are going to be watered down because of the Xbox one. Even though we see higher res faster multiplatform games for the ps4 now, there could be sabotage of the concept of a game right from it's inception because of the limitations of the Xbox.

I think they are probably right and wrong at the same time. Some games probably will be watered down because of the Xbox, and other games wont. Mostly I expect the first party exclusives from Sony to be awesome.

The question remains however, exactly how much planning around the weakness of the Xbox one will limit game design on the PS4 for multiplatform titles. I think the answer is that it's still going to be an issue if the Xbox remains significant in the market. If it tanks completely, and it could, it could be a non issue. But it's probably not going to tank completely, and it's probably going to be limping along behind the PS4 the entire generation dragging some of the multiplatform titles down.

Death4471d ago

If it's any consolation, the PS4 and it's lack of a camera to take advantage of the pretty light on the controller in every box is great incentive for third parties to not use Kinect. I'm thinking it's easier for devs to use the extra processing power the PS4 has than it is for them to make up for the PSeye having less than a 100% attach rate.

Insomnia_844471d ago

I like people with logic and common sense.

Bubble up!

GordonKnight4470d ago

The media is ruining Nintendo. I just don't see how the media puts down the Wii U console, but then they give them a 8.5 - 10 on all their game reviews.

The message I get from the gaming media is the Wii U is bad console, but has amazing games. That just does make sense.

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lonewolfjedi4471d ago

lol yes man! still waitin for good ole nelson to talk about this

CYCLEGAMER4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

@lonewoldjedi
I think what he was talking about has already come to light. With ps4 boasting higher resolutions, but most of the games having frame rate issues i.e. Tomb Raider, Knack, Thief...etc. While the xb1 games are showing to be more stable, by being able to hold a more consistent frame rate.

sweendog4471d ago

best part is reading the comments. Im 100% sure megaman is georgenoob

Infamous2984471d ago

I am laughing at the xbox fanboys commenting in the article. Poor creatures been exposed to microsof's lies and PR , hypocrites

jessupj4470d ago

@Daniel

I'm still smh at that.

Gosh there's lots of MS apologists in this thread.

Notice how everything in the article is factual or at least widely accepted to be true. The apologists could at least try to form a rational counter argument, but all I'm seeing is crying and whining.

They always seem to play the victim and never actually properly and logically address anything these kinds of articles bring up. It's getting a little annoying to be honest.

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trywizardo4471d ago

because you didn't buy an xbox one and now you can't play titanfall . just saying ...

Majin-vegeta4471d ago

But you dont need an x1 to play TF you could just go buy a 360 buy the game and gold and its still cheaper in the end or use a pc

joebloggs19714470d ago

I said exactly the same thing a few days ago. Go and buy a 360 for 50 quid and acopy of Titanfall. From what i´ve seen and the research i have done there isn‘t going to be a huge difference between the two platforms

DonDon4471d ago

They drastically reduced the price AND included Titanfall in their latest bundle, and I STILL won't buy it. In fact, most feel the same too...

http://n4g.com/news/1463407...

Kiwi664471d ago

then why has it sold out in some places and is #1 most preorder in the USA so guess that means most people disagree with your statement

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DoubleM704471d ago

" In fact most feel the same too"

Who are those people? IS THAT FACT

DonDon4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

@ DoubleMS_fanboy:

Yes, it is a fact, did u not see the link I provided? Man, some of u overly defensive MS fans don't always remember to put on your thinking caps...

@Krispy Creme: Check the link I provided above.

@ DroneXbot: Yeah, but the rest of the world IS important, and they aren't going to be swayed by one game alone. MS is too shady to trust just yet.

Kiwi664470d ago

that news is old by now but on amazon only 1 day ago it was #1 and in regard to it selling out that story was on this site

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA26d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY26d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay26d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos25d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7226d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY26d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator26d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum25d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z25d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad26d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga26d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot25d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose26d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE26d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername25d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy26d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde26d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8626d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8626d ago (Edited 26d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole26d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300026d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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-Foxtrot26d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle26d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7726d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments