HIM again lol!?!?!!??

"Even GTA - in markets like the UK, the majority of sales of GTA are on Xbox. It is clear that when you look at actual independent sales data - not ours and not theirs - that we do have a larger install base."

He DOES realize that the EU is much more than the UK?right?

Do people actually read where they got their numbers from?

The Official companies that Track EU sales numbers. no VGchartz or any other bullsh1t site. my guess is sony was talking about units sold to retailers not the consumers.

Edit: talk as much sh1t as you want it doesnt change the fact that the numbers are true.

@TheHater

The numbers were taken from the official companies that track EU sales. Basically EU's version of NPD. is that good enough?

for shame.

Have you forgotten where you are? I realize that Chart-Track and GfK are just like NPD, pretty much their European counterpart. But simple rules of logic and reason don't apply on N4G.

'It must all be lies.' LOL

for how long

is adding in sales that aren't going to be added. Sony could do the same thing too.

Fire him Microsoft!

MS is speaking alot of bull nowadays.

Wow, this is some of the lamest PR I've seen in a while

the PS3 is getting squeezed out of the console war.

::rollz eyez::

Greenberg is MSFT's version of Baghdad Bob: "Don't worry, everything is fine...the Americans are not here......"

I'm going to approve this just to promote the dream.
edit/ too late.lol

All of a sudden MS counts "sold to customer" numbers?

They've been using shipped numbers for god only knows how long.

And if what he said was true, he would have said MS was still leading in europe the MOMENT sony said they outsold the 360 in europe. He would have said it while he was doing all his other bragging and boasting. Instead, he waits for nearly two weeks later?

And last I remember when I saw chart track and the GFK, sony did infact overtake them.

Nuff said they are desperate.....MS is speaking alot of bull nowadays.
i'm so glad i have a ps3. 10 year machine + bluray built in...free online....plus the game i want....vs 360 hardware red ring...online charge yearly 50 bucks.....i'm sure they will intro new 720 because of current red ring problem sooner or later given original xbox 4 yr life (i bought the original xbox the 3rd yr) getting rip.....
who going to buy a console that that gonna last another 2 years,,,,lol

LOL what the heck is up with Microsoft lately? They're on a roll with PR talks. They're trying that hard to take any attention away from June 12th.

Secondly, the 360 in Europe has a 16 month advantage. 16 months! We're talking a full fledge 1 year and 4 months before the PS3 shipped. Secondly, the PS3 launched with "No Games" and a extremely higher price tag and still manages to sell better than the 360.

360 fan..... and their agenda.

where's your PROOF that he's wrong?.....

I mean maybe he is lying, but what creditable source do sony folks have that says different?, he says chart track and gfk confirm his statement so instead of calling him names to make yourself feel better lets see a independant source with the data from those sources or other reliable sources over the last year for Europe?....I just want to see for myself.

JOY

This guy is a wellspring of comedy gold! ;)

BBBut the Cell

First Sony is "squeezed out" in the US and now they are trailing in Europe.

End Result - The death of the PS3

PRAY BEYOND

awwww, you droids can't take the fact that 360 is selling more in your little europe, too.

The MS damage control has been pathetic lately.

His job is just to lie about the worst console in history I like to see what people like him are going to say when ps3 outsells everything.

He is right since he forgot to add "leading the ps3 in Europe in rrod units."

ps3 fans can't do math again.

ww total: 360: 19 mil ps3: 12.85 mil note: these are numbers from SONY and MS

in Japan, 360 = 500k, ps3 = ~2 mil
in US, 360 = 10 mil, ps3 = ~4 mil

if you do the math, 360: 19-.5-10 = 8.5 million in europe + rest of asia + other regions

ps3 12.85 - 4 - 2 = 6.85 mil for europe + rest of asia + other regions

8.5 > 6.85. so if you do the math, you'll see that in the whole europe, 360 base > ps3 base.

unless you want to tell me that the 360 destroys the ps3 in china, africa, australia and other non-europe regions.

10 times in a row would be enough!! Now, comment this story again

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/...

lol... forget Chart-Track and GfK... these Sony lovers would never believe them.. they rather continue digging at VGChartz because it tells them what they want to hear...

First Shane Kim,

Now, him.

WTF.

"On the topic of that exclusive content, a Sony exec recently suggested that it would come to PS3 eventually. Will it?

It's not possible as far as I'm aware, but that would be a good question to ask Rockstar. Rockstar and Xbox have only said there are exclusive episodes coming this fall to Xbox 360. I might put that up for a bit of wishful thinking on their end."

And don't disagree with me, because the above aren't my words!

PS3 fanboys call this guy a liar yet they cant prove it. Do you guys believe everything Sony says??? Stop crying and back it up with facts instead of FUD. At least this guy was able to point out that the sales numbers from several sources show Microsoft has more units sold. Wheres Sony's proof??? You want an example of Sony's lies???

Wheres your Toy Story quality graphics on the PS2??? Wrong

Wheres your twice as powerful as a 360 graphics for the PS3??? Wrong
4D??? Wrong
1080P games running at 120fps on dual-HDMI??? Wrong
Spring 2006 launch??? Wrong
4 million Units at launch??? Wrong
2 million units at launch??? Wrong
500,000 units at launch??? Wrong
Simultaneous Worldwide launch??? Ouch that has to sting Europe.

Lies, lies, and more lies. Need I go on???

Oh Nasim while your at it why dont you make an account to rip off my name too. Anybody that spends time to go through the trouble of spamming every possible message board with FUD, using an insane amount of multiple accounts needs serious and immediate medical attention. I guess all that waiting b3yond finally got to you huh???

lose against nintendo in half the time:

we sold 10 million in america.we were "FIRST."we are not competing against nintendo.they compliment us.did you here,we were first to 10 million?

get outsold in 2007 to sony with big guns:

we have great momentum going into 2008.

get outsold in europe:

those numbers must be wrong.

get outsold in japan:

we already knew that we would lose.it's about making headway with japanese devs.

time and time again,the microsoft spin for losing something,they find something else to feel chipper about.don't have the most consoles sold.well...look at our attachment rates.lose to bluray,well,it's all about digital downloads.revise their hardware because of f#ckups,well...we are just giving gamers better choices and features.even if we bagged on competitors about them.

microsoft is such a pitiful company.FUD talk will not stop what will happen from release of mgs4,E3,and on through to christmas.the fun will be the spin from microsoft and 360 fans when they lose the next thing.

megaton...............

How on earth does nasim get so many accounts?

if Sony could push sales with this winning formula:

1. format winner - blu-ray
2. GTA4 - PS2 best selling franchise, #1, #3, and #4 best selling games on ps2
3. and GT - another ps2 top-selling franchise, #2 & #5 best selling games on ps2

i think its safe to assume the 360 will beat ps3 this generation in the U.S. but not Europe or Japan. Come next generation, America's brand Xbox will lead in the Entertainment division of Video games, same way America leads when it comes to Music and Movies.

Call me racist but it just pisses me off when I see how people in Japan refuse to buy a 360 just to support Japan made PS3/Wii. With the quality and quantity of games on the 360 and only only about half a million sales in Japan? funk that

If MS say the gap is around 5 million, And they now say they are selling better in the US and Europe then the rest of the world must be more important than people believe. How did sony close that gap again??????

10) 5 Million people would buy PS3s, even if it didn't have any games!

Source: www.gamespot.com/news/6151631. html

The fact of the matter is, nobody would buy a console with no games. Perhaps the early adopters would buy a $600 paper weight, but there isn't enough early adopters to go around to push 5 million PS3s without games. Fortunately for Sony, the PS3 was released with games.

9) Nintendo copied off of us! We invented 3D!

Source: biz.gamedaily.com/industry/fea ture/?id=12824

When I heard this, I had to chuckle. Sony mentions that they had brought 3D to console gaming for the first time with the Playstation 1. As a result, they further assert that Nintendo copied off of them with the Nintendo 64. Unfortunately, what they don't tell you is that the SUPER NINTENDO was the first game console to bring 3D gaming to the consoles. Anybody else remember the FX Chip? Star Fox? Stunt Racer FX? Thought so.

The DS is trailing the PSP

Source: biz.gamedaily.com/industry/fea ture/?id=13886

This was said in an interview with SCEA Veep, Jack Tretton. I'm thinking, if you tell yourself somthing long enough, does that make it true? Unfortunately for Sony, the movie industry has wisened up to the failure of UMD and have pulled their movies. EA has wisened up to the failure of the PSP and have moved to concentrating more on the Nintendo DS. It just didn't work out for Sony. Live with it.

7) The PS3 is a Computer

Source: www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthr ead.php?t=31849

In this leaked Sony QA, you see that Sony refers to the PS3 as a computer in almost every answer to every question. Sony wants the PS3 to be known as a computer for two reasons: #1 $1000 is a good price on a PC, $600 is even better and #2 No import tax into Europe. Give me a break. The PS3 is about as much of a PC as the PSP is a multimedia entertainment convergence center.

6) We are the true innovators!

Source: www.kotaku.com/gaming/pc-gamin g/sony-pc-dead-nintendo-for-kid s-we-innovate-k-179882.php

I'll believe this if doubling everything Nintendo does is innovation. It seems to be a constant Sony philosophy: wait for Nintendo to do it and then double it. Analog Stick? Dual Analogs! Rumble? Dual Shock!

5) The rumble feature had to be removed due to the motion sensor

Source: www.joystiq.com/2006/05/09/new -ps3-controller-loses-dualshock -vibration/

Obviously, somebody hasn't played Wario Ware Twisted. This game for the Gameboy Advance features both amazing motion control and rumble features. I think that Twisted was made to help test Wii functionality.

It's pretty obvious that the real reason rumble was taken out of the PS3 controller is due to the lawsuit Immersion filed against them. They didn't want to pay Immersion royalties or a settlement for their Dual Shock, so they won't have it at all. They're taking their ball and going home.

4) The PS3 is too cheap!

Source: ps3.ign.com/articles/706/70613 3p1.html

I think the public will decide this, Sony. Most people say the PS3 is more expensive than what they will like to pay for a Next Generation game console. Perhaps if consumers weren't forced to buy proprietary Sony technologies that they can't use, the PS3 could have come out at a good price point.

3) There will be 2 million PS3s at launch!

Source: kotaku.com/gaming/sony/ps3s-at -launch-north-america-400k-japa n-100k-198718.php

Every time I checked the news, this number was smaller and smaller. I would caution anyone from making promises they can't keep. At least Nintendo has a good excuse to keep breaking their promised release dates of Zelda. I don't think anyone will be unhappy to get to swing Link's sword.

2) Next Generation will start with the PS3

Source: money.cnn.com/2006/05/08/techn ology/ps3_pricing/index.htm

Sony justifies this by saying that the current generation started with the PS2, not the Dreamcast. I beg to differ. I have a lot of my Dreamcast games on other consoles now. They are early next gen games. Sure games like Evolution Worlds and Skies of Arcadia doesn't look as good as some of the games these days, but they sure were a quantum jump from PS1/N64 graphics. Sega started this generation of gaming, not Sony.

1) We are not arrogant!

Source: www.joystiq.com/2006/07/13/son ys-phil-harrison-i-dont-think-w ere-arrogant/

Sounds pretty arrogant to me. With a company that is constantly claiming that the PS3 will sell on the Sony brand alone, that tells me arrogance. They lie to themselves, they lie to consumers; that's some arrogant behavior to me.

I like the people I do business with to be honest. Sony unfortunately is behind the times when it comes to culture and doesn't realize that everything they say can be verified within a few moments. Let's hope this awakens Sony so that the PS4 will be truly innovative and worth buying.

PRAY BEYOND.............

nuff said.

Sony has clearly destroyed MS worldwide, and is CLEARLY ahead in Europe in overall sell-through.

"Oh no, they sold 900 units less than 360 in America, 360's ONLY stronghold!! PS3 is getting squeezed out despite raping 360 worldwide!!"

Cut the sh!t greenberg, it's over for everyone at Xbox.

well ... i don't care about that. i want to play games!

Somebody should punch him in his mouth or something...get him to stop talking...God, he is making it seem as if MS being run by kids.

No company in the world should be badmouthing this much...It is unprofessional, it is tarnishing their image...That goes for all companies.

I hope this fat smug jerkoff has a heart attack.

I can't wait for tomorrow's gem:

"The Xbox 360 is leading in Japan"

ATTACK!!

The guy's not wrong, can't fault him just because he's right and you feel wronged.

Wow, it's the guy who looks like "I'm-gonna-choke-you-thro ugh-your-ass".
I think MS should stop bullsh*ttin' and do more great games and reliable services.

Come'on microsoft, we all know that's falling out of your mouth.

He actually says that the 360 is increasing its lead against the PS3? That's completely false and everyone knows it.

Shouldn't this dude be doing some work instead of running off at the mouth......What a delusional f****

please don't post this garbage anymore, this man has no credibility in the industry especialy with comments like this!

These console generations shift back and forth alot. Look at Sony, they had 120+ million sold with the PS2, but they would be lucky if the break 30.

and used sources, some say are credible to back up his statement. what's the BIG deal?

Are you gonna come back with sony numbers or VG chartz with your own argument?

Why must we play part of console PR news/statements/data, maybe it makes people feel better to curse at the Enemy.

spend way too much time with these articles. This generation doesn't seem to be about games. It's all about who's better technical feats and sale numbers.

Consoles generally don't really hit the mass market after it has that affordable market price. All this tit for tat will go on for a while, since right now, nobody is blowing anyone out, in terms of SALES The consoles are not yet at that price. Well except Nintendo and you see how that sells.

ACtual Data reports people who bought Xbox 360 has over 10 xbox 360 in their home right now!

Actually, The people who bought a xbox 360 has bought 1 xbox 360 but has repaired it 9 times.

At microsoft we like to count each xbox 360 that has been repaired or replaced.

One day Somebody going to do a documentary about this. We will finnaly see how M$ conduct its business. Until then, Its evident that there is a huge backlash & mistrust of Xbox 360 & microsoft.
Customers on xbox live are revolting. The internet hates Microsoft. Even video game shows on tv have a look of disgust when mentioning the xbox 360. Politicians, Celebrities, Freinds & Family had a xbox 360 & they all had to call Support and get hassled over the phone because of RROD! Its Common & People dont love like Xbutts do! LOL what morons with there little A$$ dvd games. Playing xbox instead of ps3 is like playing a gameboy instead of a psp. Get Lost!

BULLSH1T-BOX-PLEASE-SH1T-ON-M E Thats a Good One! Keep em going.

Lmfao, OH MY GOD...MS is spinning damage control again!

They should stop using that picture, really. That guy's smile is about to crack my PC monitor.

UK is not Europe you facking dipsh!t retard cunt. Go get some geography lessons

Why hasn't anyone posted those GDK and whatever numbers yet?

Can we get a verify on this?

I cant find the numbers so from my POV this is made up until proven true or false.

He speaks the TRUTH. Sony can't even spell it...

HA HA HA HA!

Maybe he wants to be famous like Kojima :)

This site has a lot of teens

I'm just tired of seeing that sasme pic of greenberg, can't we find someone else next time we post this up, like maybe Jennifer Aniston, or even Magaret Thatcher would be a vast improvement over that same pic is posted every time he attacks his opponents or says something completely unfounded.

And instead uses estimations of third party companies as absolute fact. As soon as a Wii is sold, Nintendo gets that data. As soon as a PS3 is sold, Sony gets that data. And that's what the two companies publish to us; actual number of consoles sold.

Microsoft is purposefully misleading the public and its shareholders, and it ain't gonna be pretty when it all comes crashing down.

Said for you XBox 360 fans considering since Microfony lies pretty much about everything example they say there going to make an windows that wont use to much resources on computers and yet they haven't or never will cause they lie.

This guy is mad...how the hell did he pass the interview? lmao

That's the truth..lol

That they sold 17 million and then back tracked it saying they shipped 17 million so yeah go ahead and believe them XBox 360 fans you always do and I have notice there the only ones talking while the other corporation is just watching them humiliate themselves!.

What an idiot this is why i hate MS