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Will The Xbox One Lose Dev Support?

The Xbox One is still performing poorly, but the console will hold on as long as Microsoft can keep drawing in AAA publishers.

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LuaMaster4496d ago (Edited 4496d ago )

Yes.

Japanese support obviously be non-existent. Then European localization for Xbox One titles will stop. And if the trend in Europe publishers will stop bringing titles to anyplace other than the UK for the Xbox One.

And in the US if the PS4 continues to crush the Xbox One in sales it will become cheaper and cheaper for Sony to secure third party exclusives. And the end game for the Xbox One would be developers outright dropping Xbox One versions of games even in the US.

jackanderson19854496d ago

why would they stop... the architecture in both consoles is pretty similar so it's not like last gen where there had to be a considerable effort to port one version of a game to the others consoles.

also unless MS stagnate at 4mil for the year they'll continue to have dev support... thing about the WiiU is that it's at 6ish mil after over a year... i doubt MS will be that low after a year

Hocking4496d ago

Actual sales of the Xbox One are around 3 million. With no sales coming from Japan. And the Xbox One is pretty much dead outside of the UK in Europe.

Reaching 6 million in the first year for the Xbox One is not going to happen unless there is a dramatic surge in US sales.

LuaMaster4496d ago (Edited 4496d ago )

The Xbox One only sold 140k in January with every single store in the US having more than enough stock. Add in a little more each month for Europe and the Xbox One is going to have a tough time reaching 6 million by the end of 2014.

pompombrum4496d ago

Xbox One sales figures should easily hit 6m+ by the end of the year. Titanfall is going to give them a big boost and even if that somehow fails, Halo 5 won't. I still predict the PS4 leading by a fair margin but the initial sales figures for the Xbone is still pretty good all things considered.

BigFnHooters4496d ago

Halo 5 isn't coming 2014. And a downgraded port of a PC game isn't going to do much for Xbox One sales.

Selling only 140k consoles in the US isn't going to get Microsoft to 6 million in the first year even with the small amount of Xbox One Europe sales.

Giul_Xainx4496d ago

I don't think the developer support will completely die out for the new xbox. I think that devs will still release titles on the platform, but exclusive deals with Microsoft will become harder to bring home. The playstation 4 has a soaring approval rating winning over the hearts of gamers.

This truly shows that a first impression lasts forever.

ZodTheRipper4496d ago

More focus on PS4 is better for me =)

ShadowKingx4496d ago

i dont think xbox one will lost dev support, however it will be hard for xbox to gain new ones. which means you could see alot of ps4 exclusives unless something drastically changes on xbone

darthv724496d ago

Xbox will lose out on allot of the smaller devs but the bigger ones are going to try and recoup their investment. So Capcom, EA, ubisoft, Konami...they are much larger and can afford to make multiple versions of a game to spread to various platforms.

The smaller houses...not so much. So unless MS starts buying up devs like sony did early on then they wont really have any in house talent other than what they have now.

vigilante_man4495d ago

It is Microsoft. They have billions to spend whenever they please. They will always prop up their big names.

Whether they support gaming in the future is another question...

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Magicite4496d ago

eventually they might lose certain support, but not all of it.

raWfodog4496d ago

I hope not because even though I'm not interested in getting an Xbox One at this time I believe that competition is what drives innovation and improvement. It's that same competition from MS that I believe caused Sony to step their game this generation. If only one console dominates the market, it might lead to stagnation.

ZodTheRipper4496d ago

It's about game support and developers would still be competing against each other in a 1-console-domination so your argument makes no sense. I would rather say that we would get better games if devs could focus on 1 platform, just look at all the great PS2 exclusives.

raWfodog4496d ago (Edited 4496d ago )

My argument makes sense when you read it for what it was saying.

Simply put, a console will fail if it does not get adequate developer support. If there were only two consoles on the market and one fails, that leaves one console. With one console left, there is no incentive for the company (not the developers) to offer quality hardware and incentives because they don't have to compete with anyone else. If you want to play the games, you'll have to buy their console at whatever high price they want to sell it for. That's over-simplifying it but you should get the gist.

Sony wanted their console to stand out from what MS was offering. Do you think they would have needed to do that if MS wasn't even in the race?

darthv724496d ago

I get what you are saying dog. Its like when EA got the lock on the NFL license. That made all other companies that were competing against EA with their own NFL games pretty much obsolete.

And with competition out of the picture, EA was free to produce their games how they wanted to. That meant fewer real upgrades to the formula and more or less just roster changes.

Competition is what keep companies on their guard. it keeps them always guessing what can they do to be better than the other guy. Without that its just.....

princejb1344496d ago

NO
How can they say it's performing poorly when its been out for 2 months
It has sold like what 3.5 mill thus far. Last time I checked that's a lot 2 months in. Maybe is not performing as great as ps4 but the sale figure are still there and is only gonna sell more ones the heavy hitters like halo are released

Gunstar754495d ago

This is N4G, where rational arguments tend not to go down well.

Good luck

ThePope4496d ago

You sir have 0 idea what you're talking about. It's all about install base; if 3 years from now Sony has 30 million ps4's sold and MS has 15 million X1 sold (it will be much closer than that but you are a ponie so I thought I'd humor you) that's 15 million gamers that are mostly hardcore that for no reason a developer would have to say bye to their money. And with every sale needed for a game to make money it won't happen.

Reason 2 it's not so much about consoles sold as it is about attach rate. Using the above numbers again if the PS4 attach rate is 1.2 and the X1 is 2.5 per console, developers know they have a better chance of getting the game in the hands of X1 owners.

Reason 3 do you honestly think MS one of the largest companies in the world is going to sit on their hands and let publishers and developers not make games for their console then you HIGH on Sony smoke.

Kribwalker4496d ago

I'm sorry but since when is selling more then 3 million consoles in less then 2 months when said console is $500 considered poor? Xbox one is selling great, it's just that the ps4 is selling exceptionally. To much doomsday to early

nunley334496d ago

Welcome to what happened with playstation stories 2006-2009

tuglu_pati4496d ago

This is the beginning of the end. Consoles are dying. Be ready to embrace mobile gaming and the worst part is gamers are killing them.

Letthewookiewin4496d ago

I feel the same way, people that think Titanfall will bring sales up to the PS4 are out of their minds. It will not. The player base for that game will be mostly on 360. What most likley will happen is Devs just won't bother maxing out the system, do a cheap port and spend more resources on PS4 and PC optimizations and game specific content. They won't give a crap about MS terms agreement because the bread and butter is going to be with PS4.

mediate-this4496d ago

No one is saying tf is going to sky rocket the xb past ps4, tf is a system seller but it wont bring it to the ps4.

mcarsehat4496d ago

not as long as they keep getting $£

MarkusMcNugen4495d ago

Are we forgetting that 2014 also has a holiday season? Good ole black friday and Christmas will help with sales on both sides. I dont think the Xbox One which sold 3 million in 3 1/2 months is going to have trouble getting another 3 million by the end of the holiday season this year.

Megaton4495d ago

You seem to forget that Microsoft loves backroom moneyhat deals. They'll pay devs to make games on their dead console, even if they really don't want to.

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pakua4496d ago

It's performing poorly according to who? It's had a successful launch considering the copious amounts of bad press pre-launch.

likeaboss3024496d ago

Performing poorly is a reach. While it's not doing as good as PS4 it's still doing quite well. Even more so considering it cost $100 more.

curtis924496d ago

It's barely keeping up with the Vita in some countries. How's that anything but bad?

PS3 outsold XB1 in January. PS4 sold more in NA than xb1 worldwide.

How. Is that. Good.

Kribwalker4496d ago

It is at almost half the install base of the vita already in 2 months.

ThePope4496d ago (Edited 4496d ago )

According to a fan of Sony. The x1 is selling fine. And it's still only in 13 countries.

To all of those talking about how well the PS3 did. You do realize that it lost MASSIVE market share to Xbox. It may have sold more, barely, but lost 70 million sales they had the previous generation. Wake up!

Letthewookiewin4496d ago (Edited 4496d ago )

It's already released in all it's major countries. It could be in the same exact countries as PS4 and still won't do as well. Oh wait it is loosing in every country the PS4 is in.

THC CELL4496d ago

xbox wont lose support dont be daft man

Kayant4496d ago

Ok this has gotten way too hyperbolic. Really XB1 losing AAA support in the same lines of the Wii U is never going to happen because while the XB1 is behind the PS4 it is still selling a lot of software and doing well for third-parties in comparison to wii U for example.

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mhunterjr4496d ago (Edited 4496d ago )

I still don't understand why folks are saying the xbox is performing poorly. It's exactly meeting forecasts. Just because ps4 is exceeding forecasts doesn't mean the xbox is performing poorly... It just means the ps4 is his performing better.

pakua4496d ago

Look at the disagree votes for anything that is remotely pro Xbox One. The amount of Sony fanboys here is insane, everyone should appreciate the benefits of other consoles. Must be some pretty juvenile people here.

mhunterjr4496d ago

Yeah, my comment wasn't even pro-xbox... It's just a statement of fact. It seems like since the ps4's success, anything less than 'exceptional' is automatically 'bad'... There's no in between.

It doesn't make sense to expect anything to sell as well as ps4. It's unprecedented. That's like saying an Olympic sprinter is 'slow' simply because Usain Bolt beat him in a race...

sprinterboy4496d ago

I am a Sony fan, but agree these articles are silly, ms have still sold well and will be fine, ps4 is just doing awesome, that is all.

MarkusMcNugen4495d ago

Welcome to N4G... lol.

Im actually leaving the community because its become way to aggressive around these parts. Not to mention I actually find this site to be slow at getting me news. Most of this "news" I find elsewhere, and faster than here.

N4G has basically become a comment board for news articles and nothing more. Most news on here isnt really news, or can be found elsewhere faster.

Hicken4496d ago

You know very well why.

When they look at the sales as compared to the frontrunner, it's doing poorly. When it's being beat out by last-gen consoles or going head-to-head with "struggling" handhelds, it's doing poorly.

Alone, the sales are pretty good. At least, they seem to be. But it also seems that sales have dropped off considerably since the holidays.

In any case, the numbers aren't likely to be acceptable for investors, particularly ones that already don't want Xbox as part of Microsoft. They don't care if the XB1 is meeting forecasts- and is it? weren't they saying the XB1 would sell some ridiculous number before the end of the gen?- if it's still getting decimated by the industry leader.

The XB1 isn't likely to lose much developer support, but the exclusive content deals the brand has become known for may well disappear this gen. However, if things continue as they are, who knows what the future may hold?

mhunterjr4496d ago (Edited 4496d ago )

Again, the front runner is performing exceptionally well. So it makes no sense to view their numbers as the minimum needed to be considered good. Why wouldn't the numbers be acceptable to investors? These are the exact numbers that the investors were told to expect.

And yes they were and still are anticipating a high number of sales, but that estimate is coupled with an anticipated overall growth of the industry, with Sony and MS both crushing Nintendo's marketshare. If there are 300million consoles sold this gen as expected Sony could outsell the xb1 by 40milliom and MS still have nearly 40% of the marketshare and over 100million in sales.

Hicken4496d ago

Naturally, you're gonna be compared to the frontrunner. At that point- and especially for a corporation as large as Microsoft, and a brand as established within the industry as Xbox- investors will be wondering "Why didn't we have expectations like what THEY'RE putting out? Why isn't the product we're backing moving like THEIRS is? Were we fed bad information?"

As a standalone product, the XB1 is doing just fine. But investors won't be comparing it to the 360 like we do; they want to know how it stacks up against its competition, which is the PS4 and the Wii U. And you better believe they're looking at the quick rise and steep drop off of the latter and wishing they had the even steeper rise of the former.

Investors will likely have seen the great start the Wii U had, watched the subsequent drop-off, and wonder if the XB1 isn't headed there next. Even the PS4 could be headed there, but investors would most certainly rather have the PS4's sales right now and then see a drop-off than the XB1's sales, followed by a sharp decline.

Again, "poorly" is relative. And it will usually be relative to the market leader. Relative to the 3DS, the Vita is doing abysmally, even though it's not doing terribly bad, and has gotten better in recent months. It was never going to do 3DS numbers, so that shouldn't be counted against it, yet it is.

With the XB1, though, it was projected to dominate this generation, apparently(based on EA and Microsoft, anyway). That, despite doing better than projected, it's being easily outpaced won't sit well with many.

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-Foxtrot45d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle45d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7745d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300050d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7250d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit50d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania50d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit50d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0750d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr50d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box50d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr50d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9550d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7250d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--50d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7250d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket50d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm50d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde50d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9250d ago (Edited 50d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_50d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted50d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit50d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9250d ago (Edited 50d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT50d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers50d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14950d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0750d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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