"Except i dont necessarily find multiplayer trophies stupid. I guess my rules would instead be "

I don't like to use absolutes, but multiplayer trophies are stupid. Even if it is play 10 games online, they're not productive. When you have trophies like that, people interested in the platinum / 1,000 just power through them. They might join a game, do nothing and let you win, which ultimately lowers your enjoyment. Who wants to play a fighting game where the other person doesn't fight? Who wants to play a shooter where your teammate is off watching cartoons to rack up plays? etc.

Since they "force" people to do something that affects other peoples enjoyment, they're ultimately stupid and worthless. Especially when they require you to do something really needless, like kill 100 people with a knife. Trust me, you will get team mates that will do nothing but knife people for that trophy and go 3:85 however many games it takes to get the trophy.

"but if u beat single player and trophies are still hidden, its pointless. you will have to go look the up online anyways if you really want them. So why make them hidden?"

The point is to reward you for doing something "cool" without flat out telling you to do it. It can suck at times and seem pointless, but some games hide things or want you to just simply do something for the trophy. Sure it's pointless now that lists are online, which is why you're starting to see games dropping the hidden trophies.

I agree but sometimes its something tapping the parrot(an easter egg in Uncharted Golden Abyss) is difficult to you how to do in a specific enough manner for you to understand would be hard to word without spoiling the game.

I think the MP trophies depend on the game, which is what I think he was trying to say. For instance, the ACIV get to level 55 trophy is ridiculous.

A simple solution to this already exists. You can see in your trophies list that there are (under a title) a breakdown of separate trophies based on DLC. Make MP under a different heading. That way people without internet can get a plat.

But even more so, it allows you for getting a platinum, but doesn't require online mp in order to do it.

But what happen when not enough people are playing the multiplayer part of the game or the servers get switched off?

Or what about the people who can't spend 80 hours ranking up their character for one gold trophy?

@jo:

i don't think he's saying that there should be a separate trophy list. he's saying that MP trophies shouldn't count towards the platinum just like DLC trophies.

it's annoying to not be able to get a platinum trophy just because they've either shut the servers down or the community is no longer active for that game.

Chazz, the answti-player er to all those questions is NOT Separating the trophies. For all the questions you asked are different answers. A Platinum trophy is meant for one thing and one thing only.... To show you unlocked all the trophies. Its not meant for completing a story and should not get giving for anything else. PERIOD. If you can't complete the task that was giving then oh well but getting a Platinum for anything other than completing all trophies would be worthless and too easy.

@ziggurat....multi-player trophies not counting towards the Platinum is Separating. Wft.

I hear what ur saying but its not the same thing. For an example..... Yes getting a trophy should be an accomplishment but getting 10000 kills is an accomplishment and also could be called a tedious or bad trophy. I would call fixing that problem isn't Separating the trophies. Fixing that problem would be stop making shitty trophies.

That's exactly what I meant cheers.. It's not the 45 kills you need with the pistol, it's the kills you need to even unlock the pistol. I want to play Battlefield 4 as it should be played & that's not running around for 8 hours with a pistol, that's the point I was making.

@iistuii Okay I see what you're saying now. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I have a similar problem with KZ Shadowfall multiplayer trophies. Lots of grinding bot kills. Dying letting my bots kill people and then respawn. Its not the most fun way to play the game.
@JoGam Fair points but shitty is subjective. If you already plan on doing everything the trophies require then they're not shitty to you so separating them would allow some reconciliation between the two groups. There is also TLOU situation. Multiplayer is good but single player is wait you came for. The single player has enough content for its own platinum and a full set of trophies so why doesn't it have more trophies? Because multiplayer took away some. At the same time some trophies are just time consuming and pointless. All 10000 kills suggests is that you played a game for a long time, not something you brag to your friends about. So far most multiplayer trophies are poorly designed.

You're right for the most part but my friend was pretty close. It took him about 6 years to get his Resistance 2 platinum since the game released back in 2008. He was playing the multiplayer on and off because there is a ridiculous gold trophy to kill 10,000 players online. That wouldn't be necessary if there is no online trophies that count toward the platinum. At the very least make them more reasonable.

Sony released games on PC to try to make a few extra bucks... Valve (and possibly MS, if the new Xbox ever sees the light of day) attempted to use this to allow you to play PlayStation games on other consoles, so instead of making Sony a few extra bucks, it's now costing them good money... so this only makes sense.

Of course they will...lol. It looks like they'll never get to play PS exclusive games or they'll give in & buy a PS.

Sure, keep coping obscure, suddenly Jason Schrier is super unreliable too I guess? lmao.

"What relief does this give you for people getting an old game a year or so later?"

There's legitimate reason to find relief in the idea that PS is refocusing on its ecosystem and not jeopardizing it by doubling down on a strategy that could put it in a similar position as the current state of Xbox.

If true, it also relieves us of another "Sony too" deflection people have been arguing as a form of cope for years after years of people arguing that Xbox would surpass PS and Nintendo because those two weren't emulating the strategy of the only one of the big three that has never won a single console generation.

That's the cycle. Xbox has reinvented the wheel and done something the soon to be obsolete PS can't replicate, until it blows up in their faces. Then, it's "Sony too."

Lol.. that makes no sense. That logic puts all publishers and developers out of business. The majority of people buy games on the system they prefer. Exclusives are only a tiny fraction of games sold. Selling 15 million games beats selling 2 million consoles.Consoles stagnate but games dont. How is sony trying to sell their console by putting God of War on PC? The overall goal is to make money and the games keep the money coming. The majority of the time consoles are sold for a loss. And If it is making money its not that much. Especially in the first few years after release. All the enjoyment is coming from experiencing the game.