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Are Graphics Really That Important?

The birth of a new console generation usually comes along with a graphical leap. The comparison between Dead Rising and Dead Rising 3 is pretty big however the new console generation almost always means that innovation is set back a couple of years. The 8th generation of console developers seem so focused on using the increased processing power on making everything prettier. In doing so they ignore some key elements that should be their main target for improvement.

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Insomnia_844488d ago

Yes! It's always been important and it won't be any different now just because the Xbox One is under fire.

ShugaCane4488d ago

To you, maybe. As for me, I never considered graphics to be "that" important. What matters the most in my opinion is the art direction. If you take games like Bioshock, or Shadow of the Colossus, they are graphically flawed but OMG do they look good. I'd rather play a game that has a real visual identity (Bastion, Killer 7, Journey), than a 60fps overly detailed soulless game.

snipab8t4488d ago

Agreed. Borderlands 2 and Dishonored are some of the best looking games out there, both have mediocre graphics with great art direction.

ChickeyCantor4488d ago

"they are graphically flawed but OMG do they look good. "

You're talking about ARTSTYLE.

Of course you could justify any visuals by claiming the artstyle is great. But keep in mind that more processing power means an artstyle COULD be better realised.

ShugaCane4488d ago

@ChickeyCantor

"You're talking about ARTSTYLE."

Well, I said : "What matters the most in my opinion is the art direction". So yes, that's what I was talking about, indeed...

My point is that graphics do matter of course, because without graphics we wouldn't have games. But that's not the most important. You can have 1844848454 pixels and a super frame rate in a game, if the design and the art are poor, then it's useless. That's what I meant.

Example : Deadly Premonition. Poor graphics, stellar atmosphere. And in that particular case, the fact that the game doesn't look good technically, contributes to its being so special.

BitbyDeath4488d ago

Graphics is art style, and yes it is important.
Hence why games like Pixel Junk Monsters or Journey can look better than a lot of crap the Unreal Engine was producing last gen.

ChickeyCantor4488d ago

"if the design and the art are poor, then it's useless. That's what I meant. "

And design and art can be enhanced by more graphical horsepower. Having a great artstyle IS good. But not being to realise it to it's full extend isn't. While it still might be good looking it leaves a lot to be desired for any artist working on the game ( of course if the budget allows it ).

" the fact that the game doesn't look good technically, contributes to its being so special."

No, it just means there simply wasn't a bigger budget. I hardly doubt they sat around the drawing table and said "Ok guys we have all this processing power, let's make it look like it was designed for the dreamcast "

Why o why4488d ago

For many the games I wanna play, yes. Why bother upgrade if graphics isnt one of the most important factors. Stick with the 360 abd ps3 then.

NeoTribe4488d ago

Graphics are important. Thus the reason we buy new hardware. If graphics and power were not important we would still be using nintendos. Good gameplay is something games are suppost to have by default. Anyone saying different is in denial.

Eonjay4488d ago

It called Video Games. The visual aspect is half of the entire thing. Gameplay is the other half. You can have both. And since most games will be avalible on both platforms, gameplay will be about the same. Therefore the one with the better video wins.

JodyCones4488d ago

You're choosing old games though. Shadow of collosses HD is better than the original version. I always hear graphics before gameplay argument. While any gamer will agree with this, every gamer at the same time does not wish their 1080p game was a 720p game. Graphics are only a benefit and does not make the gameplay worse. So yes even with the art style for example in Ni No Kuni- if it was bumped up to 1080p on PS4 for a remake, it would only make the experience better. Graphics do matter if we want the game industry to evolve- no matter what art direction is taken. It can always look better, being a benefit to our experience, moving forward.

nix4488d ago

i think it totally depends on the art style. there are some amazing games that will still interest you even though it may not have the biggest and baddest graphic explosions.

Limbo, Guacalemelee, flowers, Okami, Borderlands, Journey, SotC, Ico etc...

they're all great games despite them not being graphically amazing.

johndoe112114488d ago

Can you define for me the terms "graphics" and "art design" and what is the difference between them? Actual definitions would be appreciated not opinion.

Bathyj4488d ago (Edited 4488d ago )

Nix
Not disagreeing with your point, but SotC, Ico and Okami were all pretty amazing graphically when they released.

So were flower and journey for that matter, but more on the artistic side than the technical.

indyman77774487d ago

I have never seen a generation get excited by a machine that does not have improved graphics. WiiU has way better graphics than Wii.

TEll me with a straight face you would upgrade to a machine that did not have a big graphical upgrade. And I would point to the SAME people saying Wiiu is not true next gen.

Lets stop beating around the bush. Because people know that PS4 has better graphics, they NOW want to play down graphics! PLAN AND SIMPLE!

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mrpsychoticstalker4488d ago

Just ask the creators of Minecraft dude.

johndoe112114488d ago

How enjoyable do you think TLOU would have been if it had minecraft graphics? Graphics are extremely important depending on the game type, genre and story.

Graphics were extremely important when the xbox 360 had it better, now that the xbone is struggling it doesn't seem to matter. Interesting.....

Sayai jin4488d ago

@johndoe, I would have enjoyed TLOU the same if the graphics weren't stellar...as long as the game play was the same. Bad comparison.

johndoe112114488d ago (Edited 4488d ago )

@Sayai jin

You did not answer the question I asked. Please read my post again. I asked how enjoyable the game would be if it had MINECRAFT graphics. If your answer to that question is "just as much" then you could probably look at a career in politics or become a lawyer.

Sayai jin4488d ago

@johndoe- theres no reason for childish comments or putdowns. You are asking a question about two games that were already released. We all know how good the graphics are in TLOU...it's the same if I were to ask anyone what if Metal Gear Solid, halo ,etc had graphics like MineCraft. Those games along with TLOU are synonymous with their art style, game play, and graphics. Or, what if I were to ask the people that love MineCraft would they want the game to have graphics on the game like TLOU. BTW, I am on my second established career, no need for me to look anywhere.

johndoe112114488d ago

@Sayai jin

My comment was neither childish nor a put down. My simple point was if someone says that they would have enjoyed TLOU just as much if it had minecraft graphics they would be lying through their teeth.

So far you have not said anything to disprove my points, all you've done is continuously answered questions I have not asked and maneuvered around my question without actually disputing it.

Sayai jin4487d ago

@JohnDoe- When did I say that I would enjoy TLOU the same if it had MineCraft graphics? I'll wait. Heed your own advice and read my comment again. I said...I would still had enjoyed TLOU even if it did not have stellar graphics.

johndoe112114487d ago

@sayai

Are you serious??? I asked that question dude and you answered a question I did not ask. Seriously???????

Sayai jin4487d ago

@johndoe - All I can say is, wow. You can lead a horse to water, but you can not make it drink.

Back on topic, every element of a game is important; albeit plot, graphics, voice acting, game play, etc and in not particular order.

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Sayai jin4488d ago

Whether or not they are, it's quite childish to see people are over it. Depends on who you ask. Go back a few generations and this trend continues. The same goes for how important sales are and which console multi-plats look better on.

Just enjoy gaming.

Chris5584488d ago

I think gameplay should be top priority but graphics are aswell important

Magicite4488d ago

I agree that graphics ARE important, yet I look back at PSOne and PS2 greatest hits and see how they are head and shoulders above many current hits in terms of gameplay, plot and even soundtracks.

webeblazing4487d ago

@Insomnia_84
like its always important until pc gamers enter the conversation? people should at least try to be consistent on this site.

graphics are important to a certain extent i think it comes down to the type of game it is. i played a lot of games that wasnt really graphical the only ones that i even cared to want better gfx was the one that would become more immersive because of the graphical improvement.

most people tout gfx because fanboy war bs, and would really care if it was multiplat or technically run the same with the great gfx. its all a contest to one up each other.

3-4-54487d ago

Graphics matter, but they are like 4th or 5th down on the list.

I've recently been playing a lot of older games that are MUCH more fun than 80% of what I've played over the past 4 years.

Around 2007-2008 games started becoming really souless and empty and just "checklisty"....

How the game plays and if it's fun and addicting matter much more than graphics.

Amount of content and art style + music matters more than graphics.

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DigitalRaptor4487d ago (Edited 4487d ago )

Anyone who says no, has an agenda.

If graphics didn't matter, there wouldn't be need for new consoles. If graphics didn't matter, PC gaming wouldn't be as big as it is. If graphics didn't matter, Microsoft wouldn't be desperately attempting to bring their console up to the PS4's level with their "driver updates" to try and compete. If graphics didn't matter, you wouldn't have need for them and therefore you wouldn't be able to see the game you're playing.

When we see a game for the first time, how it looks is the very, very first impression that is made. Graphics aren't the be-all or end-all, but if they weren't important, every game that came out would be 8-bit.

Graphics + gameplay + art style + fun factor, are not mutually exclusive. Our industry is growing and improvements across the board are ALWAYS important. Curiosity and talent in this industry will always propel graphical potential forward.

miyamoto4488d ago (Edited 4488d ago )

Its 2014 and people still ask this dumb question!

Without graphics how would you show a video game in the first place?
Without graphics how would you show how a video game is played?
Without graphics how would video games progress and improve as a medium of art, entertainment and storytelling?

Imagine movies and television stuck back in black and white, or The Lord of the Rings still stuck with hand drawn animation?

You can't undermine the importance of video game graphics just to justify or damage control a certain company's shortcomings.

A video game is like an airplane with a pair wings in order to function and fly. That is why its called "video' 'game'. Video and gameplay are equally essential and important.

Video graphics and gameplay ever improving together is a sign of a healthy, vibrant, progressing video game industry.

Just look at mobile gaming sector of iOS & Android they have no time to ask this dumb question because it needs to make progress at a very fast rate to compete with console and pc gaming; no politics from apologists. just trying to progress as quick as possible.

When mobile gaming catches up with consoles and pc in terms of graphics then you'll learn that graphics and gameplay are both important.

ChickeyCantor4488d ago

Mate, those are some really dumb questions. You kinda missed the context here.

With that said, coming back to this debate of 2006, it's getting tiresome.

Fizzgig4488d ago

The original Clash of the Titans movie is far better than the CGI'd up remake and its sequel. Some of the greatest movies ever put to film are black & white so I fail to see your point. Graphics do not make a great game. There are far more important aspects that go into a game, such as story and characters etc. Graphics just make it shiny.

irepbtown4488d ago

I partly agree with your answer, however the CGI makes it look more realistic (sometimes). Are the two new Clash of the Titan films better than the old? No, however the old one looks really bad visually. I like the film never the less.

Look at a film like Gravity, it is one hell of a film. CGI can do wonders, however sometimes they can ruin a film.

MasterCornholio4488d ago (Edited 4488d ago )

Depends on who you are. But in my opinion I believe that gameplay is more important than graphics however I also believe that you can have both in a game. The myth that good games have terrible graphics is completely false and has been proven wrong many times in the past before.

Spore_7774488d ago

Ikr! I get that a lot!

Me: brilliant gameplay, great story

Brodude: shit graphics?

Are_The_MaDNess4488d ago

nope, not to me. still playing FTL, Dota 2, Heartstone, Prison Architect and Skyrim :D

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay13d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn213d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn212d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown13d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay13d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay13d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac12d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger13d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300013d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde13d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde12d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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44% of games industry professionals have considered leaving the industry as a result of redundancies

New report from Skillsearch found that 22% of those surveyed had been laid off within the past 12 months.

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Cockney22d ago

Well if that 44% left im sure there would be a lot less redundancies