Tomb Raider Face-Off: PC vs. PS4

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GribbleGrunger4507d ago (Edited 4507d ago )

Are you being serious?

You think this:

http://www.hardcoregamer.co...
http://www.hardcoregamer.co...

Looks better than this:

http://www.hardcoregamer.co...
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KonsoruMasuta4507d ago

People just don't want to accept it. The developers themselves confirmed it's a step above the PC version in visuals.

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Mr Tretton4507d ago (Edited 4507d ago )

The devs are trying to sell a game.

PS4 version is also more blurry, likely using FXAA.

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GribbleGrunger4507d ago

They'll suddenly see the difference when the 'definitive' version comes to the PC. It amazes me how denial can effect the eyesight.

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Agent-864507d ago (Edited 4507d ago )

@GribbleGrunger, you are right about the different versions, but the comparison isn't really fair since the PC doesn't have the Definitive Version. It's like comparing the PS3/X360 version with this new, Definitive Version for the PS4/Xone. Of course it looks better; it better damn look better. However, if there was a Definitive Version for the PC, my bet is it would look better just like the previous version was best on PC.

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GribbleGrunger4507d ago

Look at my post just above yours.

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webeblazing4507d ago (Edited 4507d ago )

ps4 vers has better color and it looks like the model looks better but its more detail in the pc vers. the textures in the ps4 version dont looks as good either. i dont know why they said the improved the lighting they flooded it with darkness. ps4 version still looks good.

i think you need to look at the screen shot again. this is a pc port just but looking at it the only change lora model.

this is a cash grab, we know SE put them up to it. at least lower the price to $40

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starchild4507d ago

"The answer isn’t necessarily clear as both have their ups and downs."

This much is obvious from the screen shots.

The PS4 version's gamma is too dark and is crushing black levels. The colors are tweaked too, but I find the colors in the PC version to be a bit more natural looking in most of the shots.

In the first shot, notice how the PS4 version is missing the large tree near the bridge in the upper right. Other than that the PS4 version seems slightly blurrier.
http://www.hardcoregamer.co...
http://www.hardcoregamer.co...

In the following shots notice how the PC version has a layer of specular sheen or highlights on the rocks, skeletons and ground that is missing in the PS4 version:
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The whole image looks a little flatter, grainier and duller in the PS4 version.

Then, in these shots the PC version has a bit crisper textures. This is probably caused by a slight blur in the PS4 version due to the post-processing anti-aliasing method.
http://www.hardcoregamer.co...
http://www.hardcoregamer.co...

Most of the differences come down to color, gamma and contrast differences.

So, no, I don't understand how you can act like this is some kind of one sided victory for the PS4 version. The PC version plainly looks better to me in some of the shots.

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Muffins12234507d ago

Honestly ps4 overall looks better but pc version looks sharper in some shoots,the textures and lines on the models looked and popped out more from a father distance than the ps4 version.

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2pacalypsenow4507d ago

The ps4 is darker like i said the PC version looks cleaner / sharper i never said the PC version looks better i said cleaner

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Milruka4507d ago

Yes, the PC one looks better, it has smoke effects, better particles, better lighting, and actually has decent looking embers....

Get a decent IPS monitor.

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BlackCarrot4507d ago

In many cases, a game looks better simply because it's a little brighter; it's a tempting conclusion but one we have to avoid.

The fire effects are undoubtedly better on PS4, and in some of those pictures you really do feel like you're in an inferno. However, there are certain details missing in the PS4 version, parts look blurry, and overall the PC version is crisper.

They both have their positives as many have said, but I feel that the positives on the PC version outweighs its PS4 counterpart.

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showtimefolks4507d ago

GribbleGrunger

Please don't say that because its gonna hurt some pc fanboys feelings. They spend twice as much on a PC yet can't deal with the fact a game can look just as good on ps4 or xbox one.

most pc exclusives will end up on next gen consoles while most consoles exclusives won't end up on pc.

how is that waiting for GTA5 working our for y'all? yeh that's what i thought

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starchild4507d ago

@showtimefolks

-"Please don't say that because its gonna hurt some pc fanboys feelings. They spend twice as much on a PC yet can't deal with the fact a game can look just as good on ps4 or xbox one."

I fully admit my PC would costs twice as much, but the money I have saved on games and not having to pay to play online easily makes up the difference.

Games don't look just as good on consoles as on PC, they simply don't. That doesn't mean that console games can't look great in their own right. Technically, this game "Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition" isn't currently available for the PC. Nevertheless the original PC version released last year still has advantages in certain areas.

-"most pc exclusives will end up on next gen consoles while most consoles exclusives won't end up on pc."

Proof? You don't have any. The PC has so many exclusives that even when some of them ultimately are released for consoles there are still tons of them.

-"how is that waiting for GTA5 working our for y'all? yeh that's what i thought"

It's just fine actually. I have more games in my PC and console libraries than I have time to play them. Eventually GTA5 will almost certainly be released for PC and it will run and look better and I'll simply play it then.

But why in the world do you guys always use this faulty argument? Don't you realize that all platforms miss out on certain games?

Since you are a Sony fanboy I could just as easily ask you "how is it waiting for Alan Wake, The Witcher 2, Splinter Cell Conviction, Metro 2033 and Titan Fall for your PS3? Oh that's right, you won't be getting those games on your PS3."

All platforms miss out on some games, yet the PC tends to get more games than any other platform. I've been reading my recent issue of GameInformer, for example, and they have their "Top 50 games of 2013" feature. Out of those 50 top games more of them can be played on the PC than any other platform.

20 of those games are available on the 360, 24 on the PS3, and 29 on the PC. And it has been this way the past couple years as well.

The point is, the PC isn't hurting for games. Far from it.

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DOMination-4507d ago

Hows the wait for train simulator on consoles treating y'all? Yeh thought so

- Posted from my Xbox One

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JasonXS124507d ago

Coming from a PC elitist, the PS4 definitely looks better from the general texture improvements to better lighting and shadows especially around the pagoda buildings you linked.

I hope Square Enix don't leave PC for dead and hopefully they offer an upgrade as well or something. I want to experience next gen Lara on PC as well.

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FamilyGuy4507d ago (Edited 4507d ago )

Lara's skin looks way better on the PS4 version. Like the PC version didn't get realistic sub-surface scattering. She's less dirty and less bloody too for whatever reason.

Not really worth an argument, it's not like they released a "definitive edition" for the PC version. The PS4 and X1 versions are clearly not just a PC port so direct comparisons aren't that great. The PC version is more clear in most shots though.

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wwarren194507d ago

Tomb Raider on pc is a port of a game that was held back by the tech specs of the PS3/360. Tomb Raider is a beautiful game but not a real indication of what a PC vs PS4/XB1 face off should be. I think Witcher 3 will be the true test!

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AD7054507d ago

"how is that waiting for GTA5 working our for y'all? yeh that's what i thought "

So how is that waiting for planetside2 and everquest working out for y'all? See what I did there?

Also fun fact. COD and Battlefield are the most played and popular games on consoles. Guess what? Both of these game franchises were originally PC exclusives and it took years just to come out on consoles. Same with elder scrolls, GTA, crysis, diablo, the witcher, theif, half life, and many more.

So why do people use the whole "WEz GOTZ ITS FIRST!" argument when it's not a strong point to begin with because pc has had many things first as well. Hell online multiplayer one of the biggest things on consoles started on the PC.

But lemme guess PC gaming sucks because it doesn't have the last of us, god of war, uncharted, killzone, and a bunch of other ps3 exclusives right?

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BlackCarrot4507d ago

@Shadowtimefolks

GTA 5 is on PS3/360, not PS4/XB1.

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nveenio4506d ago

It almost seems like they made a lot of sacrifices in order to get the fancy hair on the PS4. I'd rather have better shaders, AA, and such than fancy hair.

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NewZealander4507d ago

agreed, some things look different on ps4, i wouldn't necessarily say "better" though, where as there is noticeable things on PC that are undeniably better such as the textures and pic three looks far superior on PC, ps4 missing the shine effect completely.

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Muffins12234507d ago

Honestly that was not hard to run anything,their where no effects used to make that, just put on their to make it look like that,the rock looked like it was plastic with that shinny look

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starchild4507d ago

@ Muffins1223

Haha no, specular reflectivity like that is achieved with a specularity map, and it is most definitely missing on the PS4 version.

The skeletons, ground textures and rocks are all missing the specularity highlights in the PS4 version, whereas they are present in the PC version.

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ITPython4507d ago

PS4 version looks to have some serious black crush, probably due to whatever method they used to capture the pictures, or possibly the brightness (or whatever screen settings are available in the game) are not adjusted properly.

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YoungPlex4507d ago

"All those PC pics come from (at least) 1200p downsampled images. That’s easily seen by counting the aliased edges on the first PC pic. I assume the others too are from the same 1200p (or more) resolution.
Not really fair to compare 1200p downsampled PC version to PS4 native 1080p is it?

I noticed you also posted those comparison pics on NeoGaf.

I very much hope it was an honest mistake from you…"

This^ I noticed it right away!

This is probably why you say the PC version looks cleaner which it should've been a direct comparison. Ultimately the PS4 version is a bit better IMO I love how I felt the flames a little more with the thick smoke all around me in that seen.

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Zefros4507d ago

ps4 version looks better here.

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Mr Tretton4507d ago

PC version looks better. They added in little amounts of quality to the PS4 version, but took a lot out as well. I'm sure TressFX alone is part of this reason. It's a huge performance killer on a good PC.

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Imalwaysright4507d ago

"TressFX alone is part of this reason. It's a huge performance killer on a good PC.!" Not anymore it isn't.

OT PC overall looks better to me. Sharper textures and more detail. Also the new character model looks really weird to me. I hope they don't use it on the sequel.

Omegasyde4507d ago

I concur - The PC version look more crisp but it seems there is more going on as far as sparks and flames are concerns on the PS4 version.

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Imalwaysright4507d ago

I agree, PS4 version has better effects than the PC version but I'll take the sharpness of the PC version over the blurriness of the console version.

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Senyra4507d ago

Yep, I think the PC version is more detailed and neat. The PS4 is more blurry and it has a fantasy aura :0

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gamernova4507d ago

Too general. I want to know how maxed out. You can 4k max or 1080 max. It's too general for me to draw any conclusions. If it is 1080 maxed then I feel cheated because PC is much more than that.

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GribbleGrunger4507d ago

Resolution has got nothing to do with why the PS4 version looks better than the PC version. Even in 4k it wouldn't change the lighting and post-processing effects. And it certainly doesn't add better shading and use of colour.

gamernova4507d ago

The ps4 version does not look better. I'll give you that they trade blows but better is very questionable. Also, this isn't dynamic gameplay. Screenshots are fine and dandy but the way everything behaves while in motion is what makes a version "look" better. Then we get to 144hz ,120hz and so on when it comes to fps. So yeah, I actually want balls to the wall comparisons to draw conclusions. But what I can say for sure is that it definitely looks better than anything offered previous gen.

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Ju4507d ago

Pointless to argue with some people. Say whatever you will, PS4 has features the PC version does not (yet) have. This goes beyond opinion, it's just what it is. You can blow up a PS2 game and yet it won't look better than Uncharted.

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alencio4507d ago

Lol, 4K looks like 100 times better. What a joke.

http://www.flickr.com/photo...

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combatcash4507d ago

yes it's more than 1080p but too run it at max settings with tress fx at 4k you need a very pricey card

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gamernova4507d ago (Edited 4507d ago )

Yeah but a comparison to PC should be at the best the PC can dish out. We aren't talking price comparisons. We all know PC is more expensive but cheaper in the long run.

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webeblazing4507d ago

1080p and 4k is not the only resolutions out there.

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combatcash4507d ago

@gamernova

I understand what you're saying but what good does it do to show a game with max AA and settings at 4k and beyond if only the top 5-10% pc gamers can play it at those levels. It's safe to assume that most pc gamers are running their games at 1080p with max settings depending on the game.

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sprinterboy4507d ago

Both look great

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WickedLester4507d ago

Both have strengths and weaknesses. The Definitive edition has better color/contrast and lighting effects. Textures look slightly more detailed to my eyes on the PC version and I prefer the original look of Laura. Anyone who says that one definitively looks better than the other is just being biased.

JAMurida4507d ago

Yeah, no matter how many times I tried to look at it, I always came out of it saying the one on the left has a sharper look to it. But your comment pretty much sums up my thoughts.

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webeblazing4507d ago (Edited 4507d ago )

this is ran by ps fanboys the masses will never say it looks better. they never will, even though its obvious that they pc version would look better, and that people was saying that this game is a cash grab they still wont admit it. funny thing is i doubt most pc gamers would care even if it did most of the comments i read was about paying $60 for a straight port from last year. i think it be a different story if it was an online type game or open world that you sink tons of hours into.

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WickedLester4507d ago

Given that the PC screenshots are supposedly from a PC with the hardware capability of running it on max settings, compared to a 400.00 console. I think what we should take away from this is just how damn close the PS4 gets to the maxed out PC version. To me that alone is a phenomenal testament to the engineering of the PS4!

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Aleithian4507d ago

"The masses." You just outed yourself.

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Omegasyde4507d ago

I agree but to me this new "shiny coat of paint" doesn't really justify a full price of a new game.

Game should of been at least 40-20% off the full price of a game. Similar to how Sony release god of Collection (Cod of war 1 and 2) less then full price (40$ in the US).

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joab7774507d ago (Edited 4507d ago )

Does it matter? Is anyone really gonna buy this on ps4 over pc all this time later b/c it looks slightly better in places. Yeah, it u havnt played it and own a ps4, go get it. If u plan on playing online with friends, play where ur friends r...though the multi isn't that good. If u own both and havnt played, go pc if u can max out b/cnit cheaper, assuming u r not playing online...otherwise its cheaper on ps4.

We all know that the ps4 is capable of amazing things, especially for those who dont play on pc. But, we also know that in the near future, those that have the money will get better graphics on pc. That being said, aside from all the arguing, its great when consoles succeed b/c they drive software development. Its better for everyone.

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admiralvic4507d ago

"Does it matter? Is anyone really gonna buy this on ps4 over pc all this time later b/c it looks slightly better in places. Yeah, it u havnt played it and own a ps4, go get it."

A lot of this has more to do with people questioning how definitive this version actually is. The overall point isn't "should you buy the PS4 or XB1 version over the PC version", but is actually "Is this really good enough to justify a $60 dollar MSRP?"

WickedLester4507d ago (Edited 4507d ago )

It's not that complicated really. If you're a console gamer, have a next gen system, and haven't already played this game then the Definitive Edition is the one to get! Plus I can justify the 60.00 price point to run it at this graphical fidelity a hell of a lot more than I can justify what I'd have to spend on upgrading my PC to be able to run it at max settings.

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admiralvic4507d ago

"t's not that complicated really."

You're right, but your reasoning is all wrong.

"If you're a console gamer, have a next gen system, and haven't already played this game then the Definitive Edition is the one to get!"

Do you really believe a graphical "increase" and a "better" framerate is worth telling developers that you're a sucker and willing to pay $60 dollars for slight improvements? I agree that it isn't that complicated, since I can easily go buy the last-gen version for $10. However, some people like yourself apparently care so much about these minor improvements that you're willing to shell out $50 dollars more just to have them.

"Plus I can justify the 60.00 price point to run it at this graphical fidelity a hell of a lot more than I can justify what I'd have to spend on upgrading my PC to be able to run it at max settings."

You're missing the point again. Like it or not, the PC version almost always looks better than the console version. So the site is simply comparing the best original version to the supposed best current version. Because, again, this article is about if the title is actually worth the full $60 for a game that is basically "better" looking.

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deadfrag4507d ago (Edited 4507d ago )

Two totally diferent versions but the PC version have higher texture quality,while the ps4 version haves better effects and lightning.The PS4 version is all redone and cant be compared to the PC one because in the PC theres no definitive version released.

PC-look at the textures on the ground and the broken halls are higher.

http://www.hardcoregamer.co...

PS4-better lightning on environment.

http://www.hardcoregamer.co...

Overall comes the devil and chose the one that likes better!BOTH ARE VERY GOOD!Its actually very good that developers are getting all the juice they can from the PS4 and dont old back,because this will benefact future console PS4 to PC ports.

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Agent-864507d ago

@deadfrag, you are one of the few who seem to get it. The comparison isn't really fair since there is no Definitive Version for the PC. If there was, we both know the PC version would look better.

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Aleithian4507d ago

"Fair"? What does fairness have to do with it? I can compare Tomb Raider to Metal Gear Solid and say Tomb Raider looks better. I don't even know what "fairness" would be in this context. So the PC version isn't maxed out to the maxest max. It's still running high, and not every PC player can play it on ultimate max. Take it for what it is.

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Agent-864507d ago

@Alethian, fairness, in this context, would be comparing the PS4 version with the Xbox One version since there isn't a PC version. It's comparing an old build with a new build.

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_QQ_4507d ago

definitive version looks better on the feature side other than her new face, it looks like too much botox. Either way, if you have any other means of playing this game then go with that. if you don't and want to try it, please wait for a price drop, don't let publishers think that we will support this kind of horse.

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ninjahunter4507d ago

Jesus, crank up that blur and contrast.

But there are areas where there is obviously more work put into the environments. Kind of saddens me that the publisher decided against bringing the new visuals to PC. Oh well, anyone who actually bought it for the graphics probably was misinformed.

WickedLester4507d ago

Plus remember no matter how much sprucing up the developers did to this game, it's still a last gen game! This wasn't designed from the ground up to BE a next gen title. If it had, I believe we'd have seen even better results and I'm sure we will on the sequel.

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WillGuitarGuy4507d ago (Edited 4507d ago )

Charles C. Finn said it best, "Don't be fooled by the face I wear, for I wear a mask".

The Definitive Edition has a lot of things missing. Mostly seen in environments and characters (trees and clothing). The game also has blurry textures, and too much damn contrast. Not to mention Lara's new emotionless face. Whatever they did to improve the PS4's Definitive Edition, it certainly hasn't overshadowed the past PC version of the game. Without a PC Definitive Edition, this comparison doesn't seem right.

http://www.hardcoregamer.co...

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The same site above also reported that the violence for the game was toned down. Come on now. Crystal Dynamics, I am disappoint.

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ape0074507d ago

look sharper on PC but have extra effects on ps4

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alencio4507d ago

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HappyWithOneBubble4507d ago

PC maxed settings don't show much of a difference. PS4 looks better in some of the pics especially the snow pic.

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WickedLester4507d ago

Like I said before, both have trade offs. Both look fantastic. I'm just encouraged that given the PC screens are running on a rig at max settings, the 399.99 PS4 is able to go toe to toe with it this well! It truly is a testament to the engineering of the PS4!

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cyclindk4507d ago

I haven't played it, but... did I miss something or are all versions ugly as all holy fuc*?!

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Onixg5mer4507d ago

The PC version is not MAX if it's only 1080p because there are monitors with higher resolution than that.

microgenius4507d ago

both are the same
just different colors

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JackVagina4507d ago

REAL comparison shots.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz...
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz...

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sklorbit4507d ago

PC is sharper, but the definitive version has a better look. Either way it is an impressive showing for next gen, especially ps4! The fact that there are people arguing shows that the game looks comparable to pc which is great.

and to all the butthurt PC people; PC will always be superior when compared evenly, and the comparison isnt exactly even since the definitive version has had an extra year of development time, and features some improved overall visuals that werent in the original release for either console or pc. everyone understands this dont worry, get your panties out of their bunches, PC is still the best

Somebody4507d ago

Definitive version. Why don't they bring it to the PC? Then we'll see a real comparison.

Unless, that's very reason why they don't want it to come to the PC. After all that hype about specialized codes, extra particles and effects it would be really disheartening if a PC can also play the Definitive Version.

Hopefully they won't make "Definitive Edition" as a sort of a new exclusivity mechanic by the console game makers to screw with the PC. Just like how the PC is stuck with Fifa games that used an older engine for years while the PS3 and X Box 360 versions used the latest ones.

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Kingoftherodeo4507d ago

ahhh facepalm comparing ps4 to pc easy there ps4 guys all that power going to your head

Moncole4507d ago

The PC version is cheaper so that is a reason to buy it over the PS4 version.

LAWSON724507d ago (Edited 4507d ago )

PC version looks crisper and the PS4 version has strong points as well. The only reason is because the Definitive edition clearly had another dev tweaking textures and adding in new effects.

If the game came to PC it would look even better. However that will not happen do to what I said about other devs making these. Both Xbone and PS4 had their own developers so that means PC would need one too.

Do I care if the PS4 version is nicer? No it is a $60 rerelease of a last gen game. I was more than happy with my version of Tomb Raider I got for $8. Which by time the price is that low on consoles it will be a 2-3 year old game from last gen

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windblowsagain4507d ago

There is no reason for arguments regarding this.

PC - Cleaner due to MSAA in area's.

PS4 - Better lighting and some textures.

PC - Higher rez if you want it.

PS4 - New looking lara( looks more human).

Both versions look excellent and enjoy whatever you prefer.

Obviously the PC version is cheaper.

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Mr Marvel4507d ago

Wow, some gamers argue over the dumbest crap.
This is why I'm a closet gamer, because the stereotypical gamer is a whiney little bitch.

Who cares!? It looks great on PS4 and I'm happy with that.

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MuhammadJA4507d ago

PC one wins:

http://abload.de/img/dypv5e...

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SynestheticRoar4507d ago (Edited 4507d ago )

I have the PC version got it for 10 dollars. That being said the PS4 looks like the best version.

Miacosa4507d ago

Both versions look pretty good.

How much does it cost to get this game to look like this on PC? Just curious looking to see what a Steam OS build would cost to get a similar result. Is it well over $400.

wwarren194507d ago

The PC version looks better to me but when it takes a $1000.00 pc to beat a $400.00 console the PS4 is a lot of bang for your buck.

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H0RSE4507d ago (Edited 4507d ago )

It's an inaccurate comparison. They are comparing the definitive edition on console, to the original edition on PC. That being said, the PC version still looks good enough to warrant a comparison.

wannabe gamer4507d ago

exactly, if a new version was done for PC it would look better than consoles new version.

Bytor4507d ago

if you enlarge the picture the ps4 version looks better.ps4 version isn't crushing blacks because you can see the detail in the dark areas other wise yould just see black and nothing else.Just check out 360 screen shots of dark games. I'm Shure a pc version of this would look better. If you want to play a next gen game that's already out play uncharted 3 and then you will understand true next gen starts on ps4 when uncharted 4 comes out

wannabe gamer4507d ago

ps4 looks like they made it darker. not a huge impreovment. if they bothered to make a new version for PC there is no doubt it would look better. the Current PC version is limited by last console development. Its no secret that when a multiplat games comes to both xbox and other platformsthat M$ makes it part of the agreement that the other platforms cannot look a certain % better than xbox. so even if PC can look better doesnt matter if they are limited by console agreements.
PC exclusives are out there to prove it. its a good thing witcher 2 came to PC first and then console much later or it would have suffered greatly

NaAsAr4506d ago

I just picked this up from gamestop today. i can say I am very impressed with the graphics and performance. it's worth the play through again. my 1st time purchase of this game

alencio4506d ago (Edited 4506d ago )