Yeah! It will be like Second Life!

Or, it will be like the 3D world that Microsoft started working on before HOME.

Of course, Microsoft also started work on their game console before the Playstation was a glint in Nintendo's eye.

Silly me!

why is pool/darts/bowling not unlocked in GTA 4 multiplayer? because then it would be home!

thanx to N4G podcast for that great joke!

Nice off-topic troll. Get to the open zone ->

I should know better than to feed the trolls, but:

Quicken > MS Money
No. Not even close.

Google > Live Search
Maybe.

Flash > Silverlight
Nope. Try again.

Mac OS > Vista
Nope. Try again.

Wiimote > this MS abomination
Both are licensed from the same 3rd party. Your objection is based soley on emotion.

Is that what Metacritic told you to say? Or did you form that all by yourself?

you do know that MS brought out a motion controller for the PC some 9 years ago

The day this site returns to its roots and abandons this fanboy crap the better.

This decision to go motion controlled is purely business based, not game based like so many would like to believe. The strongest selling point for the 360 up to this moment has been it's huge software range (now nearing 1000 titles), you rightly point out that motion control capabilities would immediately open up an avenue for third parties to publish on more than one platform, which in turn will see an even greater software range and diversity on MS system. EA, THQ and Ubisoft have all shown a renewed interest in this section of the market and would strongly back the move.

What would be interesting is if the attach rates of these titles on the 360 outstrip the Wii we may see the ironic development of motion focused developers moving towards the 360 as the lead platform and porting or abandoning the Wii. Currently this seems unlikely, but it is within the realm of possibility.

But the key driver to all this is as evidenced by the strongly aligned voices in these forums, the hardcore are already locked up. They either have a PS3 or a 360 and believe in that system alone (although occasionally they have both). Meanwhile the Wii has the casual market all to itself, and that is growing at a rate that greatly outstrips both systems.

Microsoft and Sony would be crazy to ignore the casual market... and that's why increasingly they're not. All we're seeing is different market strategies to capture part of this market. Microsoft appears to believe in developing motion control peripherals, Sony is clearly more interested in pushing casual software titles like Buzz and Singstar.

Neither method has been proven in this generation, but Sony's push in casual software is certainly the far less risky option. Microsoft are taking a large but calculated risk, that will either succeed beyond everyone's expectations and ride the waggle euphoria of the casual masses or will fail miserably but leave their share of the hardcore intact. Only time will tell.

Dark Sniper, what happened? You used to be cool.

The PS3 is not slaughtering the 360. Its is definately outselling it in the console arena, but it makes sense witht the PS finally coming out with good games. But Xbox is still winning in the software sales, and PS3 is not leading by that much, leading mainly in Europe. Are you in Europe? Im not so I could care less. I live in America.

As for the remote I think its cool. If it works well it might be really cool to go back and replay some great shooters with it. Id like to see XBox come out with some great party games, but its hard to say whether they can do it. Nintendo has the lock on that area, but well see.

he used to be cool but he realised how 360 will win the war so trys his best to defend the droidstation :(

i'm sorry but the two of you above are clearly xbox users. how do you not pull this man up on a 6million defecit. ps3 is not slaughtering anything its third in software sales and hardware sales alike. i'm sorry but you can disagree all you like and talk about how ps3 is gaining moment etc. but the fact remains ps3 is 3rd and has 6 million hardware sales to make up before its even on par with 360

That is pretty silly.

Some games will be waggle. The games that are *meant* to be Newton controlled will-be. The market has room for both.

Unfortunatley, my comment above has been nuked by the sony-loyal; but what is going to happen here? 3rd Party Wii developers are going to *FLOCK* to this Newton. Without a doubt. All those low-attach rate wii owners are going to get the Xbox 360 owners supporting the quality of their games.

It would be interesting if Banjo Kazooie did this to drop a nuke on Wii this Saturnalia.

I'm just loyal to intelligence. Take that as you will. But why bother wasting time and money developing a 360 game when you can spend a quarter of the money on a PS2 port to the Wii and shoehorn in motion controls?

How many 3rd party games for the Wii do you really want to see on the 360. I just can't see 3rd party developers wanting to spend money and waste time porting game to the 360 just because some new controller is out. Companies have the right to do what they want, but this is one that MS should just stay out of.

It's true...

The thing is...consumers are idiots. I see it every single day at Gamestop. People buy Iron Man. People buy Wii Fit. People bought Gamecubes...(see my point?)

I try to warn them as much as possible.

This dude wanted to get LOST: Via Domus the other day...so, I told him it was rather disappointing...especially if you're a fan of the show. He got Uncharted instead. Yeah, that was a close one. I'm glad he'll be enjoying his life now though.

Consumers never put ANY time into what they're going to buy unless they're highly intellectual human beings. There aren't many of them these days. You know, the British are quite intellectual. The British also buy PS3's. Is there a pattern there? I think so.

Look how well the Wii sold. Consumers don't even KNOW that they won't play it after the first week. They buy it without thinking.

Trust me...they'll buy anything that's marketed well enough. If the name Mario is attached to something...it will sell.

Sony hasn't even got started yet, they will let you know when it is time.

The problem with MS trying to release this kind of motion control for they're system, is because it was never part of the core experience from the 360 to begin with. When people hear "Video game system with motion controls" they are going to automatically think Wii.

Now I'm not saying that this will be or not be a success on MS's end, but they sure don't have an identity of what they're console is doing for the consumers anymore. The 360 was known as the hardcore gamer's machine, and guess what. It attracted a lot of hardcore gamers. But it's going to stoop down to "Hardcore gamer's machine, but with motion controls for the casuals."

But for the people that have a 360 and not a wii. They can just buy the remote's and not worry about a wii.

/me looks at your screename

oh.. so basically everything you say is out of spite, jealousy and hate.

go you :D

Because thats how stupid you are.

And the funny part is that the bot is named PS3fail and tries to tell me how I got it wrong because of my name.

The stupidity of these xbots knows no boundaries. You people are the most stupid kind. You people are bots.

and your trying to say you dont take any part of it.

your just as bad. arguing to him. you critisize him for being a bot, yet you argue with him and stoop down to his level.

the cheek on it.

JUMP IN & PLAY BEYOND

What do you mean "last ditch"? MS can read sales. They know they've got 19M machines in homes, hey know they've got a industry-record attach rate.

Bring this to market, and 3rd party Wii devs are going to love it. And, Xbox 360 is going to drink the Wii's milkshake.

Well that reply is a last ditch effort.

The wii mote/nun chuk work well accurate and precise enough to not inhibit gameplay.

The six axis on the other hand is pretty poor to use for anything but shaking fire off in resistance. to imprecise which is why the lair controls got slated.

Thats what happens when you try to tack some thing on in at the last moment.

As a "knock off", "Bad idea", "Gimmick", and "Riding on the Wii's coat tails"...Yet all of sudden it magically turns into the "gratist ideaz Evar!" when MS gets in on it...

Whats the deal here?...Is it only a good idea when MS embraces it?

And no answers?

They are simple questions:

Why is this such a great idea when it comes to the 360?

Why is it such a terrible knockoff idea when Sony does it?

Why is it good for one system and not the other?

Why is it considered a gimmick/fad for one, and isn't for the other?

Until those are answered...the ones that disagreed are hypocrites.

Cry a river, fanboys can be so ridiculous. If your going tit for tat, Microsoft stole the first ever operating system, I think that tops them all since they're implemented in over a billion machines world wide.

every word you wrote is true and all the sony fans that disagree are in complete denial as usual.

last time i checked not all 360's have a HDD. All PS3's do. We can upgrade ours anytime we want. You have to pay out the @SS to get a bigger MS made HDD which will most likely given the 360's track record fail on you and have to be replaced.

Yeah, that's true that not all 360s have an HDD, but all PS3s do. But it doesn't change the fact that Sony didn't innovate having an HDD in a console. It was MS that did that.

But the included and upgradeable HDD is definitely something that I like better about the PS3 this generation. MS does overcharge for the 120 GB HDD, that's for damn sure.

Sony is not the creator of everything good in the videogame business. I think we can all agree that MS is the innovator of online console gaming. I believe Sega attempted it with the Dreamcast, but MS is the one who really got creative behind it and took it to a whole new level.

By the way, not every 360 fails. I've had mine since late Jan. 2006, and I've put it through the ringer. It actually runs pretty cool to the touch, at least compared to some other 360s I've felt.

Sony never created anything? you must be high. Heres just one thing. Try to think of where some many of these titles you been enjoying would be had sony said no to RE GTA FF7 to name a few. Eyetoy which tracks movement. Somthing M$ will copy.

read all the post above yours? How can you deny facts? It is so typical of you sony fans to spout off like little kids and deny facts that are right in front of you as plain as day. Amazing!

And what facts are these?
Please, enlighten me.
I'm waiting.

The facts are that they've all innovated and all copied. None are better than the other in that aspect. You think Sony doesn't steal any ideas? Please. The Wii is the only reason they put that stupid tilt feature in their controller. And if Sony was so innovative they would've foreseen the popularity of online console gaming and beat MS to the punch. On top of that, PS2 would've had an HDD.

Consider yourself enlightened.

no one cared about Zune for the same reason no one will care for this remote. They both are trash and cheaply made.