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Valve’s Console Plan Might Not Be a Good Move

Valve’s presentation at CES has finally happened, and we have a bit more of an idea what the future holds for the mysterious Steam Machine, Gabe Newell’s plan to enter the console market and bridge the gap between PC and console gamers. Although these new gaming-PC/consoles are promised for this year, they’re still in development, and they won’t be available on the consumer market until the latter half of 2014.

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-Foxtrot4514d ago

I would hardly call them consoles

I think if this fails they should just make a Steam Machine themselves but just have one or two versions like normal consoles but a difference in memory.

If you made a console like machine with PC elements like modding then it would be a clear winner in my eyes. Modding on a console for Elder Scrolls 6 for example would be amazing.

Bundle it with their own headset and a traditional controller and Valve are good to go.

TheGamingHeretic4514d ago

I think you may be onto something. It's my hope that we see more and more machines come out like this one and the Ouya. The more options we have, the more customized they will be.

-Foxtrot4514d ago (Edited 4514d ago )

I honestly think if they do a console with certain features from the PC which give the PC an edge over consoles that are overlooked by Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo then Valve will have something unique to their console.

As I've said modding is a big part of that, if they could advertise a game like Elder Scrolls 6 for their console but unlike the PS4/Xbox One it enables modding just like the PC or the chance to download PC made mods then you'll have a superior version in gamers eyes....the one thing the PS4/Xbox One can't do.

Least then it would make those companies look into mods in the future.

Sethry1014512d ago

The idea of a consol that can have its hardware upgraded when its starts to become dated is a good one.

BUT the way Valve are going about it I don't agree with. They are introducing far to much variation, which will not appeal to casual games, as well as most of them being far to expensive.

What they should of done, is make ONE consol, that was a cheap base consol that could then have more expensive hardware added to it depending on what the owner wanted.

Although hopefully they do achieve adding a bit of competition to the industry if anything.

hesido4512d ago (Edited 4512d ago )

"The idea of a console that can have its hardware upgraded when its starts to become dated is a good one."

One advantage of traditional consoles is being able to target a specific hardware. Upgradable consoles are just PC's in console form factor. Not that it's a bad thing.

Valve's SteamBox's are good because it will decrease the relevance of Windows as a gaming platform, it will decrease the burden of having to pay for an OS just to unlock features of graphics card you paid for (e.g. DX10 not being available on XP), SteamOS will be constantly enhanced without penalty to users wallet. Also, if it defines a baseline (I don't know the details to their certification), for example, if the devs will know a SteamBox will have 4 cores minimum, it's also a good thing.

Bladesfist4512d ago

@hesido That is also a downside as it makes backwards compatibility much harder.

DC7774512d ago

But it's also true that having a variety of parts in your pc creates problems and frustration as you have to wait for specific tweaks and patches for what you are playing with. For example I abandoned Ghosts on pc recently because tweaking it without an issue when I can max out any other game was annoying. I was tired of waiting for a fix for my rig so I went to a console with a standard setup for a better and simpler experience. Sometimes all the tweaking graphics options is fine but sometimes I am just not in the mood for it.

That being said, a strictly Steam pc is a great idea, but ones with varying parts and builds?? Not seeing the difference from your standard gaming pc.

And with cloud games looming this may have come too late. If I were Steam I would ditch the boxes and start jumping on signing deals to stream Steam games. With their library they could decimate most competition in that area.

morganfell4512d ago

I will call some of the models a console. But other than the controller, 300 beta machines and investment into the OS, what money is Valve really forking over? The bigger cash deposit is being made by the Steam Machine manufacuturers themselves yet the article seems to indicate the weight is on Valve.

It isn't.

This is the safest investment possible for Valve as someone else is bearing 95% of the risk. With their game selection, transferable game collection, and current userbase even that risk is minimal.

This is one of the articles you bookmark and return to later in order to point out very bad prognostication.

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Edsword4512d ago

I understand the PC gaming community believes that upgradeable consoles are a good thing, but the reality is they are not. The whole point of consoles is to be a standardized gaming machine. No worries with graphic settings, controller settings, etc. you just pit the game in and play. Not everyone wants to worry with whether or not their system can play the latest and greatest game. They want to know that if the box says PS4 it will work on their system. I've met PC gamers who spend more time tweaking their systems than playing the game. Personally, I don't have time to be a PC gamer. Not knocking anyone, I'm just saying that not everyone is looking for the same thing.

MajorGecko4512d ago

the controller is the only thing that put me off but thats just what i think

Ratty4512d ago

It's a PC so you could plug a mouse and keyboard, a 360 controller or anything, really.

KakashiHotake4512d ago (Edited 4512d ago )

I think one of the biggest issues with the Steam machine is the controller. I see what they tried to do by making the buttons touch enabled for moving and camera viewing similar to the controls of a Mouse, and 4 bottons to similate the keys used on a keyboard. their basically trying to combine the Mouse and keyboard experience in a controller format. The thing I have a hard time seeing is who does this appeal to? If your into PC gaming then obviously your very comfortable with the traditional controls and if you already have a powerful enough gaming PC why would you feel the need to invest in something like this? And if your a console gamer then you are used to traditional button layouts so why would you want to chance a new learning curve? As it is PlayStation gamers have a hard time coming to grips with Xbox controllers and Xbox gamers have a hard time coming to grips with PlayStation controllers. So what does that make of the Steam controller? That's just my take on it though, I could be wrong but I guess we'll see.

iamnsuperman4512d ago

I think that would be a very minor point if they allowed mouse and keyboard and other controllers to be connected. I would be extremely surprised if the don't (especially mouse and keyboard)

The biggest issues is the approach. It is extremely similar to what the Scottish parliament want with their independence policy. All the benefits without taking on any of the risks. Valve is creating a platform without building it themselves (I. E. no risk). The problem is it doesn't work like that. We can see the effects of it now. What has happened is now we have got Linux based PCs and not consoles which means these things don't really have a market

Rzep4512d ago

Good thing that you can hook up just about everything to a steambox then eh?

edqe4512d ago (Edited 4512d ago )

I can see myself using Steam Controller. K+M is still the best option in many cases but Steam Controller could be more comfortable for example when playing from couch.

PS and Xbox controllers are useless in games like Civ 5, Crusader Kings, Europa Universalis, pretty much on any RTS or even FPS games. At least it looks like Steam Controller works just fine on those types of games.

But as said, Steam Machines handles wide variety of controllers - pretty much everything. Just pick your favourite and play.

starchild4512d ago

@edqe

Yeah me too. I think the Steam controller looks promising and has several advantages over traditional controllers.

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Rzep4512d ago

It's a living room PC not a console, if that is hard to grasp than that's not exactly Steam fault. It is a pre-built PC made for gaming and conveniance for the people out there who do not want to build a rig, or waste money on a rig. SteamBoxes are not aimed at those people that put there PCs together and are fine gaming on whatever system they are using now.

It's competition for all the pre-built crap that's out there now. You will have an option to buy a proper gaming PC not some bullshit joke of a PC from Dell, or a pointlessly overpriced Alienware PC. Those two companies for a long time were the two known to people looking for pre-built now you have SteamBoxes, which already look like a great idea because already different companies have shown machines in just about every price range you would want.

Bloodjunkie4512d ago

I think Valve should concentrate on making great games and stop trying to change the gaming World. I would like to see a New half life on a console instead a wannabe console with no advantages towards a ps or xbox.

starchild4512d ago

They have already changed the gaming world. And Steam machines most certainly do have advantages over traditional consoles. They can be upgraded just to mention one huge differentiator.

Ratty4512d ago (Edited 4512d ago )

Except that the fact that consoles have static hardware is why games can run so well. Developers can squeeze a lot more juice out of the system that way. (Though we don't see much of that with multiplatform ports)

Another advantage of consoles is how you don't need to upgrade parts to play games built for it.

I'm into PC gaming as well but you can't just ignore that consoles have some advantages over PCs.

Bloodjunkie4512d ago

But that is not what the most people won't. PC gaming is to expensive an to complicated. I want a hardware that can compete for years and not a Pc that is outdated the moment I buy it. Think about the progress the ps3 made with a 7 year old hardware and compare it to a 7 old Pc hardware. It's about the skills of the gaming programmers and not about best hardware.

Hicken4512d ago

According to you, starchild, PC only has advantages over consoles, and no disadvantages. Which makes me wonder: why do consoles exist in the first place, if there are no advantages?

Upgrading the hardware just means the same thing for Steam boxes as for PC: developers aren't going to optimize for the platform. Meaning it'll require a decent bump in power over consoles to outperform them. Hopefully steamOS isn't as resource heavy as Windows- I doubt it is- but will every game be compatible with it?

Hm. That's odd. I seem to have found some disadvantages already. Why does it seem like such things ALWAYS slip your mind?

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cl198321d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Seams like a nice controller

Reaper22_21d ago

Two analog sticks acrossvftom each other is a no go.When will everyone learn.

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