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Microsoft considered removing Xbox One's disc drive

One of the big questions in the run-up to the Xbox One's announcement was whether Microsoft would drop the disc drive. Back in March 2012, for instance, Epic's Tim Sweeney suggested that a disc-less Xbox One that runs all games on solid state media would have "a dramatic advantage", though he qualified that this is "a completely separate question" from how games are distributed.

micx4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

Then they realised you never go full retard.

Seriously, what were they thinking with that Xbox Reveal in May.

iamnsuperman4531d ago

It would have been suicide for the console if they did (considering how badly the E3 show went). Does anyone not remember the PSP GO. Like what it says in the article bandwidth and game size would be a major issue for a disc less One. Though it would have been more in line with their E3 policies with the DRM restrictions and trying to be like Steam

alexkoepp4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

Then they realized that console gamers are a decade behind the curve and are unwilling to change for the better and changed most of their original vision...

(...and even a step ahead of Steam with game sharing...)

MightyNoX4531d ago

@alexkeopp
I actually would have loved it if MS stuck with their original vision so when Steam box comes out, all the tools who compared it to Steambox can eat crow. :)

You've been well trained.

Why o why4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

Change for the better.....lmao....

Nothing wrong with having the option of both. Its not like there's zero dd games. If ms would of tried to fly too close to the sun too quickly their console would of probably flopped. Some are ready for your world but the whole world isn't and you as a minority are not ms's main concern nomatter how progressive you think you are. You were ditched for their greater good.

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pompombrum4531d ago

lol @ Alex it's nice to know Microsoft was able to brainwash at least one individual, tell Don I said hello.

nukeitall4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

I can only imagine the users of Netflix forcing the company to stick with DVD/Blu-Ray in favor of their focus on digital streaming.

That would be a sad day, yet that is what happened on the Xbox One.

Essentially gaming is being held back and we have now been held back at least half a decade!

pompombrum4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

Can any of you Microsoft fans please explain how exactly gaming is being held back? I'm all for digital distribution but at the same time, I believe more in giving people choices. Right now, most countries don't have the infrastructure to provide adequate internet connections for gaming to go completely digital.

Kayant4531d ago

@nukeitall

"I can only imagine the users of Netflix forcing the company to stick with DVD/Blu-Ray in favor of their focus on digital streaming." - Right because it requires 25GB+ of data in order to watch a show/movie /s

"Essentially gaming is being held back and we have now been held back at least half a decade!" - Rightfully so it should be delayed the bandwidth is just not there for everyone to warranty a PC-like policy yet. It's highly unrealistic to think a steam like model will work on consoles atm with the fact game sharing/borrowing & recouping cost via trading in is still important aspects/strengths of console gaming and the fact console manufacturers need/rely on stores to sell hardware so heavily undercutting them in game prices was not going to happen or the fact publishers are going to start charging less considering how a lot of games are going to be having microtransactions going forward. Meaning they would probably be charging more if they had the choice. Obviously that wouldn't happen because console gaming is already pricey and anything significantly higher would just push more people away to PC or mobile.

Also it's rather interesting that Sony so far are the one being more open about third-party resellers (Amazon PS store) not MS considering their hard push with digital early on.

Kryptix4531d ago

I find it funny how people that think digital only distribution is the future still don't know that physical and digital can both co-exist with each other. Many of your favorite games can be downloaded digitally now and there's nothing stopping you from doing that.

By the way, look at what happened to the PSP Go, the Xbox fanboys should be glad they added a Blu-Ray player to the console. Reading the comments, it's crazy how only the Xbox fanboys accept this digital only bullshit. No wonder Don Mattrick was hired, those brainwashing skills did work on the already half brain dead zombies.

dalibor4531d ago

"This is because the gaming community operates in a hive mind and they are very backwards. They have all but lost their passion for innovation"

Come on edonus be serious. Having both a disk drive and being able to download games to your HDD is the best way to please everybody & it works fairly well. Until we get faster internet speeds forget about it. And it's not like these systems are using CD-rom or DVD-rom disk drives. Also, it's getting harder & harder to innovate. Been gaming for a long time now & almost just about seen it all.

memots4531d ago

Awww ... more restrictive usage from my console. Exactly what i wanted.

torchic4531d ago

@nukeitall

accidentally agreed with you.

also notice how the hardcore Xboners are still defending old Xbox policies lol shame on you guys

n4rc4531d ago

I was all for the original vision.. many shops were sold out of preorders the day after e3 so public opinion doesnt reflect how you interpret a trade show reaction.

But a few comments are pretty spot on.. I mean hell, my cell phone gets 60/20 over lte. It's no issue for me.. but I get that all aren't ready for it..

But I feel all product don't cater to all people.. if we waited for everyine to catch up, we would be living in the stone age

GUTZnPAPERCUTZ4531d ago

I don't get why people say there would be "Bandwidth" problems? As a PC gamer I was always led (and proved) to believe that streaming Game Data (or any data) from a HDD or SSD had a much faster Bandwidth than a Disc based game, especially PS4 and X1's 6x Blu Ray drives!? Am I missing something? But I agree, No disc = No buy... for now, until digital games are at least $5-10 cheaper.

redwin4531d ago

I said it all along, Xbox 1.5 = Xbox One.5 no disk drive with kinect integrated. All that will yeld to about $200 lower price. BRING IT ON!

UltimateMaster4531d ago

Well, instead of going 100% DRM, the best way to go about it is 100%.
You can't resell your games and Steam is doing to good job at it too.
Save up that extra cash for a better HDD.
Either way, you're forced to install the game anyway and unlike the PS4, it takes several minutes to install. So why not just go 100% digital?
If it works for Steam.
Maybe Microsoft would be best to bring Xbox to PC instead of making a "console", that way, they could upgrade your games as much as you like.

darthv724531d ago

I feel like i must speak on behalf of the under appreciated PSP Go. I have one as well as the original PSP and PSP 2000.

where the Go gets the majority of its flak is the lack of proper marketing of the digital nature of the system. Sony did not have even half of the retail games available on the digital marketplace. And not only that but their lack of understanding the price point for digital releases were nowhere in line with the retail market.

Now we can agree the digital releases were more than the physical ones mainly because in the retail market there are multiple channels to get your physical game. From new/used in a store to 2nd hand in a private sale...you could get your physical game almost anywhere. The digital market was controlled by one and only one source....sony themselves.

had they taken a good hard look at the median price of a physical game from multiple sources they could have adapted their digital variant to a similar price. The Go has many features that make it overwhelmingly better than the original units but the lack of direct physical media is the one true pain in the side.

Now jumping to consoles, it had long been rumored that one of these companies would likely go the digital dist route. and they very well may over the course of time. If it was sony, they would more than likely have presented it in a way that provides the user with a list of benefits in doing so. If it was MS then its possible they too would have tried to provide a benefits list as well.

but lets face facts, MS are more hated and sony more beloved that no matter who did what it would have been received positively (ex: sony) or negatively (ex: MS).

Lets just see how the digital landscape unfolds over the next few years to see who is really more supportive of moving to an all digital dist future.

nukeitall4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

To people complaining about internet bandwidth problems:

The all digital model MS was pushing allowed you to buy the game disc in store, and install it from disc, and merely patching it from XBL if you wanted to.

There would be no bandwidth issue beyond what you have now.

Now that your digital, but disc-based game is sold in-store it would be subject to the same sales you have now.

Ironically, the only downside is the 24-hour check in, while you get family game sharing, trade-in, reselling, and gifting of your digital game.

That is what MS was pushing, but every one got hung up on bandwidth and the check-in. I am practically online all the time, and don't remember the last time my ISP was down. Even if it is down, it has to go longer than 24-hours, then you can verify via cell phone tethering.

It happens so rarely, but the benefits is experienced every single time I instant switch, buy the digital game cheaper in store, or gift/trade-in/sell my game!

@darth:

"Lets just see how the digital landscape unfolds over the next few years to see who is really more supportive of moving to an all digital dist future."

Steam already does check-ins, despite the mis-conception that they have an offline mode. It is only offline for a short time, but most people don't notice, because well, this rarely ever happens. It is more fear than reality.

I completely agree with you, let us see who is more open.

After all, Sony is the one with Securom, music, movies, games and the Sony BMG copy protection root kit scandal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

So I think, we have to look at the future and the real action, and not just "intent" or advertised intent.

UnHoly_One4531d ago

I wish they would have released it both ways. I would have bought the no disc drive version in a heartbeat.

SilentNegotiator4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

"That would be a sad day, yet that is what happened on the Xbox One. Essentially gaming is being held back and we have now been held back at least half a decade!"

That's the stupidest thing I've read in a while.

Do you realize that the US is the mainland for the Xbox brand and the US doesn't have very great internet? Do you realize that the Xbox sells in regions where internet is even worse? Do you realize that some people PREFER discs, despite their internet situation. Do you realize that disc drives are relatively cheap (even read-only Blu-ray drives), and they would lose out on a lot of sales by saving a few bucks?

Stop drinking Kool-aid that MS isn't even trying to sell you anymore. That's downright pathetic.

Beastforlifenoob4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

I agree it's a stupid idea, my 2 year old PC only has 1 physical game all the other hundred or so are from steam ( i havent used the bluray drive in ages). But don't call me PC elitist because its stupid not including a drive in any console because alot of people use it to watch movies. Also a bluray discdrive only costs like what 30-50$ to buy so in reality it will be nearly as expenisve console.

But actually digital only does have benifits such as faster bandwith, reliability and the fact you can download on another device if you loose the old one or it brakes. But then again some people dont have good interent and a 500gb hdd is not really good enough for alot of games.

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Kayant4531d ago

@edonus & alexkoepp

"Then they realized that console gamers are a decade behind the curve and are unwilling to change for the better and changed most of their original vision."

"They have all but lost their passion for innovation."

So innovation to you two is taking away the little consumer rights we have today with disc media whilst keeping the same pricing model to save 2-3 seconds swapping a disc. Right.....

Am glad the majority of people don't think like you two.

It sure would have have been interesting to have XB1 directly compare with the Steam machines.

Going back to and reading this ---> http://news.xbox.com/2013/0...

It's real funny MS were thinking people would just be downloading 25GB+ games whenever they visit their friends house.

redwin4531d ago

Do you like steam? DRM . Do you like Indy games? DRM . Do you download from iTunes ? DRM . Do you watch Netflix ? DRM . I guess these are not advancements , I guess we should all go back and use VHS and Walkman for the sake of Sony . Speak the truth, if ms does it it's evil, if someone else does it it's a great idea. Case in point, ms does gaming DRM then they are evil. Steam does DRM and I haven't heard anybody say its a bad idea and that you'll be loosing gaming rights. Do some soul search and reply with your thought.

admiralvic4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

@ Redwin

I know I am going to get a ton of disagrees for this...

Steam? It's a free application you install on your computer, which you can elect to use. So while Steam does have DRM, it would be more of a choice / lesser of two evils situations (also the prices are fantastic), where as the average console gamer would be paying $500 for a machine that also restricts you with no options to play M$ exclusives.
iTunes? There are plenty of easy ways to remove the DRM, thus people don't care. Similar to how HDCP prevented people from using a HDPVR on the PS4, but very few cared because that feature in part of the system.
Netflix? This is a 100% online service, which you're paying for a subscription to. It works similar to PlayStation Plus (which is also DRM if you want to get this nit picky) and people know what they're getting going into it. It's very much so the same situation as Steam. It's an option and many people can justify $5 for 4+ games a month or $7 for unlimited movies. Now if Netflix limited you to 1 movie a day or 3 TV shots, then people would be angry.

In the end, people want freedom. PC gamers don't need to rely on Steam, GOG and a number of other sources, so some DRM doesn't bother them. Console gamers are generally paying a large sum to end up with less choices. Many people would probably support the DRM model if prices were like Steam, but I think a lot of us know that M$ will not have deals that match Steam.

Kayant4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

@admiralvic

Thank you basically that. Also I might add I get more control in choosing how I want a game to perform (framerate vs image quality) and mod support. Note I just got into PC gaming.

Yes redwin we do know DRM exists in pretty much any media product but the implementations are different and like admiralvic explained for example netflix has very reasonable offerings.

Like I said above in another post if both Sony & MS went with diskless boxes what benefits do I get back in return for giving up more ownership? Apart from saving 2-3 second with MS's plan when swapping discs & sharing games which can be done with steam now.

So far we have gotten DD games costing more or the same as disc. We have more games going forward with microtransactions and always-online. These things tell me pubs want to charge more and because rising game prices would be difficult considering they are already high.

Am hating on MS policies because IMO there are not ready for the console space none are they a good idea with the power it gives pubs in pricing.

redwin4531d ago

@admiralvic, when you talk about choices, buying Xbox is a choice. If people don't buy the product the product will get more competitive. Everyone speaks as if microsoft do it then it's over and that will be the norm for video games. People will flock to the best deal.

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tagan8tr4531d ago

@micx I choked on my own spit that was funny..

Microsoft Logic= lose the disc drive keep the web cam.. yep pure genius.

SilentGuard4531d ago

Providing an optional cheaper sku without a disc drive isn't a bad idea though for those that intend on going all digital and don't need the blu-ray or dvd playback functionality. Could allow for price parity with ps4 without ditching kinect.

darksky4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

A 500GB drive only costs about $50 retail so would probably cost MS maybe half that to include in the console.
Hardly a massive reduction in production cost therefore not much retail price drop. And they would have to add a card reader which would offset the cost saving from the drive a bit.

Wikkid6664531d ago

You we're talking about the BR drive right and not the HDD?

SilentGuard4531d ago

why would a card reader be needed if I intend on buying all games digital off the live marketplace?

CaulkSlap4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

I would be surprised if they don't release a disc-less redesign in a few years. Maybe not the only version but at least as a cheaper option to encourage the transition to a digital only DRM nightmare future they want.

hyperfire214531d ago

They consider a bunch of things... doesnt mean we need a post about each one.. useless article

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Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle31d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7731d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300037d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7236d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit36d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania37d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit36d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0736d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr36d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box36d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr36d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9536d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7236d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--36d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7236d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket36d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm36d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde36d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9236d ago (Edited 36d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_37d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted37d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit36d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9236d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT37d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers37d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14936d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0736d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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