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Sony Is Testing A Cloud Gaming Service Right Now

Thanks to an anonymous source, it appears we now have visual proof that Sony is testing their long awaited cloud gaming service with select persons today, under the rather clearly named “Cloud Gaming Test”.

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malokevi4534d ago

Sony's head is in teh cludez...

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:)

PeaSFor4534d ago

but but but.... only MS have cloudz and dedicated server.... what is this?thats impossiburu!

Gazondaily4534d ago

Huh? Did you never hear about Gaikai?

iGAM3R-VIII4534d ago (Edited 4534d ago )

LOL DriveClub has dedicated servers my friend.

I'm sure this is Gaikai anyway

PeaSFor4534d ago

@Septic
your sarcasm detector need to be repaired.

BoriboyShoGUN4533d ago

Sony always stated they had cloud technology!

Anarki4533d ago

Clearly Septic hasn't heard of sarcasm.

ShinMaster4533d ago (Edited 4533d ago )

The DIFFERENCE is that this is something that has been proven to work before.

While claims of increasing the power of the Xbox One, better graphics, etc, have not.

P0werVR4533d ago (Edited 4533d ago )

It's obviously Gaikai. By Sony's statement on Cloud Computing, it clearly shows that they believe the idea to be absurd.

chaos-lockheart4533d ago

@BoriboyShoGUN

Sony always have it, but they know we are smart and know what it is cloud is. But MS just thinks their fans are dumb a$$es, so they make up $h!t and exaggerates everything, "Our cloud is like skynet it has 30000000000 servers(which turn out to be mostly digital servers). And it makes Matrix graphics.

Irishguy954533d ago

Of course. Now the Sony fanboys will change their tune on "teh clouds"

ShinMaster4533d ago

@ Irishguy95

And you guys choose to remain ignorant.

This isn't about making the PS4 more powerful.

nukeitall4533d ago

@shin:

"The DIFFERENCE is that this is something that has been proven to work before."

You neglect to include that streaming games has resulted in two businesses that has essentially failed, OnLive and Gakai.

If you think the difference between 1080p and 720p is significant, what do you think will happen when that same game has heavy compression artifacts, inconsistent input and laggy experience?

"While claims of increasing the power of the Xbox One, better graphics, etc, have not."

Incorrect! Nvidia has shown that cloud based light rendering is possible:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.tomshardware.com...

That said, increasing graphics is not important to me personally. It is more the other uses, like Forza 5's AI, dedicated and stable servers for online play, and seamless experiences.

If graphics was important, I would have focused on PC a long time ago. Console even by today newest generation is subpar compared to even a modes PC today.

Nintenja4533d ago

It's Sony playing catch up...again.

TheKayle14533d ago

theres no relation between dedicated server and gaikai...lol

gaikai was renting their server before sony aquisition ...is renting server now

gaikai is a streaming service...no dedicated servers

Kryptix4533d ago (Edited 4533d ago )

@irishguy95, Nintenja

Title: "A Cloud Gaming Service"

It's Gaikai...

...so why are some people here thinking that it's Sony doing the same thing Microsoft is with the cloud? Where they said it boosts Xbox One's specs by "the equivalent of three Xbox Ones" and idiots still believe in that.

What I find laughable is that it's clearly in the title and Sony already said that their cloud gaming service is Gaikai.

If you're not going to read the article, then read the title carefully next time.

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@nukeitall

"You neglect to include that streaming games has resulted in two businesses that has essentially failed, OnLive and Gakai."

And you neglect to do the research and realize that out of the two, Gaikai has been very successful.

Partnerships included:

Intel
Limelight Networks
Video Games Blogger
Bigfoot Networks
The Escapist
Gamer4Eva
Eurogamer
Walmart
Capcom
CD Projekt
Level 3 Communications
YouTube
Best Buy
Ubisoft
LG Electronics
Green Man Gaming
GAME
Warner Bros.
Gamesload
WikiPad
Nvidia
Meteor Entertainment
Autodesk
En Masse
Samsung
Machinima

Till Sony acquired them in June, 2012.

And before that, in one year, from 2010 to 2011, they had quickly gathered up 10+ million active monthly users.

http://www.vg247.com/2011/0...

Why do you think Sony chose Gaikai over OnLive? It was a much better service, they accomplished more in less time than OnLive with no record of layoffs.

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"what do you think will happen when that same game has heavy compression artifacts, inconsistent input and laggy experience?

Doesn't look like none of that was happening when Gaikai was streaming Hawken.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Or Spore, Mario Kart 64, and so on.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

And all you had to do is do some research to uncover the facts, but it's cool, there's a lot of blind people like you on here and it's always funny to read their comments.

UnHoly_One4533d ago

Did you seriously just use an N64 game as an example of how game streaming can work without compression?

So you guys will be happy playing your ps3 games streamed in glorious 480i?

I'm very sorry, but game streaming just isn't possible YET without noticeable issues.

Every single button press has to be sent to the server, and then the video response to that button press streamed back to you. I don't care if you have google fiber, there will be latency there.

I'm not saying it will be unplayable. Frankly I don't know.

I'm just saying that I PERSONALLY wouldn't want to play like that with constant lag on every single game. But this service isn't designed for somebody like me anyway, I still have my old consoles and games.

mikeslemonade4533d ago (Edited 4533d ago )

^Unholy
The point is there's an option. If I am cheap, which I am, then there will be games I will not mind to play over a stream. If you read gamer reviews about these streams, they say it's playable. Imagine playing COD on dedicated servers, which someone would hard-pressed to find any noticeable latency.

I'm not gonna play online competitive gaming with the service. Although you could and it still would be playable. I'm actually picky about my specs, but I know a game like Tomb Raider or Last of Us would work more than fine on Gaikai.

And also I would challange you or a friend who is also a nonbeliever to have a blind-test on two different games(one that is off-disc and one that is off-stream). You guys probaly would have a hard time telling which one is off-stream and which one isn't.

pyramidshead4533d ago

@Kryptix damn, laying down the smack down there. +bubbs

andibandit4533d ago

No one ever said sony couldnt do cloud computing, its getting the costly servers that are the issue

Kryptix4533d ago (Edited 4533d ago )

@Unholy_One

"Did you seriously just use an N64 game as an example of how game streaming can work without compression?"

It was included in the video so I mentioned it. Was I supposed to download the video, cut that piece out, reupload it to YouTube and get flagged by ContentID? lol Did you wanted me to not mention it at all and look like I was hiding something? Anyway, Spore and the last game (Need for Speed: Pro Street) shown in that video looked good with video compression not having major noticeable effects and Hawken did, too. And those two videos are from 2009 and 2012 so most likely improvements were made.

Also, I never said it wasn't going to have video compression, I said it "doesn't look like none of that was happening" because Gaikai is handling the problems better than any other streaming service. And from watching the 2 videos, it looks like the coding for streaming compressed video is of very high quality. Explaining why Gaikai is not just the fastest growing, but a leading cloud gaming service.

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"So you guys will be happy playing your ps3 games streamed in glorious 480i?"

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

According to this Digital Foundry article from 2012 I posted above, Gaikai sacrifices 60fps for 30fps but in return gives a much better picture closely resembling 720p. Remember though, a lot of PS3 games run natively at 720p, 30fps like Uncharted 2, GTA V, and The Last of Us.

"video quality is much more solid with Gaikai - in fast-paced scenes with lots of complex scenery, detail is maintained, and despite there being some visible artifacts on show at times, we really get the impression that we are looking at something closer to a native high definition presentation." -From article

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"Every single button press has to be sent to the server, and then the video response to that button press streamed back to you. I don't care if you have google fiber, there will be latency there."

According to the same article I posted above:

"Other latency analyses were revealing. Gaikai handles Bulletstorm rather well, sometimes even matching the 133ms input lag of the Xbox 360 - an astonishing achievement. However, with anything up to 50ms in variance between our Crysis 2 readings, the experience was too inconsistent to be considered an enjoyable, playable experience." -From article

Not hiding anything, but it looks like Gaikai will be able to maintain close to the input lag of the Xbox 360 in certain games.

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Well, of course playing on the older systems will work much better but like mikeslemonade said, the option is there...not only is it there but it's working better than expected at very playable levels.

I'll be playing older games on my PS3, but I think it's great for people that never bought a PS3, PS2, and PS1. PS2 and PS1 will work flawlessly on Gaikai, but the PS3 games will still run at acceptable standards.

Thanks for replying since you gave me the chance of explaining how it's going to work out once Gaikai finally releases by pointing out potential problems.

@pyramidshead

Thanks man, just laying down the facts like usual.

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andrewsqual4534d ago

Lol yeah because Sony didn't announce at E3 2012 that they had purchased Gakai, one of the leading Cloud Gaming spokescompanies.
Seriously though just because Microsoft destroyed the meaning of the term this past 6 months doesn't mean it isn't going to be absolutely epic on Sony's end.

air14533d ago

Yea im sure its going to be epic now that sony is doing it... /s

Morgue4533d ago

Exactly. There is a difference between cloudy and partly cloudy. /s

dsswoosh4533d ago

Sony fanboy : "Cloud sucks !!"

*Sony announces the cloud*

Sony fanboy : "The cloud is awesome !!"

maddskull4533d ago

it is not like that and sony arent using the cloud for system optimization but for game streaming and microsoft are saying they will make their console strong by the cloud and they didnt do anything you idiot

Armadilo214533d ago

PlayStation was talking about the cloud before the Xbone just that xbox gamers talk day and night about it.. cloud, the cloud, more clouds

Prime1574533d ago

I don't think you get what cloud technology actually is.

G20WLY4533d ago (Edited 4533d ago )

*Sony announce Gaikai acquisition E3 2012*

dsswoosh fanboy: "cloud sucks !!"

*MS Announce da powah of teh clowdz*

dsswoosh fanboy: "The cloud is awesome !!"

*Sony tests cloud gaming*

dsswoosh fanboy: "Whaaaaa!?" *head explodes*

World: *facepalm*

EDIT: At dsswoosh below. Ain't you the man? If you don't lose a bubble for that, I give up.

BOLO4533d ago

Xbot: "Cloud can enhance Xbox One's graphical power by a factor of 4x!"

Logical Developers/Gamers: "That's ridiculous"

Xbot: "All of you are Sony fanboys!"

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kayoss4533d ago

Theres a difference

Microsoft: the cloud will make the x1 more powerful.
Vs
Sony: we will be using the cloud to make backward compatible possible.

TooTall194533d ago

As someone who has talked about OnLive for years on this site, this is exactly what happened.

stuna14533d ago (Edited 4533d ago )

No! It's just that Microsoft's version of what the cloud is and what it can do, is how can I put it lightly? "Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs"!

Sci0n4533d ago

Cloud can be utilized well for bringing us games from last gen to the PS4 and it can be great for some extra added server stability for online gaming. The thing is xbots drank the koolaid from microsoft about the cloud boosting graphics etc. Microsoft totally obliterated the cloud name and the meaning behind it when they hyped there fans up with nonsense.

Welcome2Die4533d ago

@dsswoosh

The difference between Sony and MS as far as cloud gaming goes is that Sony isnt saying that TEH POWAH OF DA CLOWD is going to make it so that the PS4's power increases as if it went super saiyan 4 or anything like Microsoft is.

SilentNegotiator4533d ago (Edited 4533d ago )

Actually, it's more like this.

Xbox fanboy: "The cloud will save the Xbox One from being behind in power!"

PS Fan: "It will never make sense for all developers to spent time programming that, and furthermore it will never make sense with the average person's internet connection"

*Sony announces Gaikai purchase*

PS fans: "That will be great for streaming less demanding classic games!"

Xbox fanboy: "BU BUB YOU SAID TEH CLOUD SUCKZ!!!"

PS fan: "Sure I did...sure..."

razrye4533d ago (Edited 4533d ago )

@dsswoosh You really are thick. Sony's been using the cloud for ages. Even the ps3 uses the cloud for backing up saves. Gakai is used for streaming games. Not magically increasing a games visual quality, screwing people without a Internet connection.

Gekko364533d ago

@All So first we have Sony testing Giakai Streaming, about time too. Then we will have MS testing Rio Streaming so both new gens will have backwards compatibility streaming services.

That sounds like a win-win for all concerned.

So MS are running cloud compute along with dedicated servers for the whole xbox live ecosystem. Cool. The whole thing is running on the Azure cloud infrastructure so it's pretty much all cloud tech.

Not sure about Sony's set up, they been as communicative as Helen Keller... Well I'm sure it'll all come out sooner or later.

Point is both companies are pretty much doing the same thing but in different ways.

So chill everyone, there is no need to resort to name calling and self gratification.

GoodnessGreatness4533d ago

Microsoft cloud sucks, it's all propaganda bs to fool people. Sony's Gaikai cloud will give benefit like game streaming and backwards compatible games.

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gigoran4533d ago

I know you're speaking English, but the words make no sense.

3-4-54533d ago

Gaikai , God of the clouds.

I wonder how these services will work out 1-3 years from now.

BobBelcher4533d ago

lol... awww, so many disagrees. Sounds like there are a few people who have their panties in a bunch.

Droid Control4533d ago

This should hopefully deliver my cherished backwards compatibility.

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USA0074534d ago

Couldn't that just be Gaikai streaming?

Mikey322304534d ago

ding ding ding.. we have a winner

Callediceman4534d ago

the link wont load for me as im at work using internet explorer 1.3 but i believe you are correct sir

KwietStorm_BLM4534d ago

No, it couldn't, it is. Mindblown.

frostypants4533d ago

Probably. Sony already provides dedicated servers to devs who want them for games.

Charybdis4533d ago (Edited 4533d ago )

Sony does not provide dedicated servers. With their firs party title killzone they did had 'dedicated' servers which weren't 'true'dedicated servers.
Developpers for the ps4 will need to decide if they want to pay for dedicated servers.
Third parties might even decide to use/pay for azure services to provide dedicated server for the ps4, other possible choices for server support include amazone and google.

I hope Sony will make a deal with amazone or google so that can also offer free dedicated servers.

TheUndertaker854533d ago

@Charybdis: Yup, just like those MAG servers, right?

Oh...

KingofGambling4533d ago

@Charybdis
you do know that Sony offer dedicated servers to their first party games, do you?
even the ps3 launch games like Resistance, motorstorm, and warhawk has dedicated servers.

frostypants4533d ago (Edited 4533d ago )

@Charybdis, Sony does offer them...if the devs pay for it. But if you think MS isn't pricing the cost of cloud servers into their licensing agreements, you're nuts. The difference is they likely have to pay for it whether or not they use it.

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MegaRay4534d ago

Now Nintendo need some cludez...

Cupid_Viper_34534d ago

Mario has been floating on clouds since forever now.....

My_Name_BTW_Is_Dante4534d ago

This is why they didn't want to put in backwards compatibility. They wanted to charge you to play those old games with lag and downgraded graphics.

OCEANGROWNKUSH4534d ago (Edited 4534d ago )

To "put in" backward compatibility they would have needed to "put in" the cell processor among other things inside the PS4 causing the price to skyrocket... Remember the PS3 launch? The first PS3's were B/C, and to achieve that had the PS2's emotion engine installed in every PS3, which was a factor in the sky high pricing, they tried to emulate this later via software but there's a list of ps2 games and their problems on wiki, wasn't the greatest thing...

Putting a cell processor in a PS4 would have likely caused the console to be at $100 more if not more than that, Im fine playing my PS3 games on one of the three ps3 consoles in my household. How hard is it to play the old system?? I still play my NES but i guess thats just me huh.

frostypants4533d ago

Not sure who the hell is disagreeing with you...everything you say is historical record.

jackanderson19854534d ago

didn't Sony allude to the possibility that you'll be able to plop in the auld discs and stream the content that way (could have made that up in my head)... i assume there'll be a yearly sub to Gaikai or something similar

Nail134534d ago (Edited 4534d ago )

Sony is putting relatively new games on PS+ so whatever. If some old PS3 game I want comes up that I missed, charge me for it when I buy it. At times I feel like am ripping Sony off with PS+

Sony would make it backwards compatible if they could. It would sell more PS3 games and PS4 consoles.

razrye4533d ago

I assume that you're talking about Microsoft. Oh wait Microsoft won't have any streaming service. Smh.

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted20d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8520d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele20d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk20d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay20d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10120d ago (Edited 20d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit20d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg19d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10119d ago (Edited 19d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14920d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_33d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle33d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit33d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog33d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog33d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad33d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_33d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage33d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda33d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong59d ago

looks god awful on the base systems