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The PS4 is an incomplete system

GameZone writes, "Let me preface this by saying I purchased a PS4 at launch. But unfortunately, in its current state, it is an incomplete console. That's not to say it's a bad console -- because it's not by any means -- it's just lacking notable features that make it a must-buy, even three weeks after its launch."

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Sarcasm4545d ago

"even three weeks after its launch"

And he goes and writes this lame article.

*sigh*

stuna14545d ago

I wonder what this means as far as the competitor!? Is it also incomplete?

For the Star Wars fans; We all know about the new and improved Death Star, it was also incomplete! We know how that turned out don't we?

LOL_WUT4545d ago (Edited 4545d ago )

Just saw a video yesterday of PS3 features that are missing on the PS4 and I got to say that I was very disappointed. Hopefully the updates come very soon ;)

And yes with knowing all that I still plan to get one.

Kingthrash3604545d ago

ps3 launch had no trophies
360 launch had no avatars
both staples of the 360/ps3 and didnt come out over a year after launch...same with kinect/move.,
so yeah its to be expected that new consoles arent "complete" thats what updates are for. dsm such nit pickyness, how did you survive last gen?

stuna14545d ago

@Kingthrash

I'm stating completely the opposite of what you seem to think! I know about things releasing missing features, which should be apparent by my comment. All things in this day and age require updates, Phones, Computers, Tablets, Satellite/cable boxes, Gaming Consoles

Conzul4545d ago

I read the article.

He's right, but he's also whiney about it. And he slams on Resogun for - get this - being the highest rated launch title.

solid_snake36564545d ago (Edited 4545d ago )

@Kingthrash360 Every feature that was on PS2 was carried over to the ps3. This gen its the other way around. So many features and apps haven't carried over YET. Simple stuff like a notification that shows your friend signed on. I understand that a lot of these features will be patched later on, but the feature that were on ps3 should have been on ps4 day one. I still love my ps4 though, can't wait to see how the games will look a few years from now.

xDHAV0K24x4545d ago

How can either of them be complete?

alexkoepp4545d ago (Edited 4545d ago )

It's called patience, I'm surprised someone is dumb enough to think that in 3 weeks the console would be much improved and the next launch of games would be here...

Part of being an early adopter is knowing you are going to have limited content, and you have to decide if that is worth it to you or not.

I was ready for new systems 3 years ago so it was totally worth it for me and I'm fine with what the systems are doing now, and expect that the first round of major updates and the next round of games should be out in the spring time.

If you aren't interested in the launch titles there is no point in buying either of these new game consoles right now. To say they are incomplete is just false, they are version 1.0, and MOST people who have bought already knew this up front, if you didn't you should have done your research before you bought.

And the NFL partnered with Microsoft that's why you see the ads saying XB1 is the official console of the NFL, so good luck getting a PS4 NFL app bud

Saigon4545d ago (Edited 4545d ago )

People are stating that all of the features from the PS3 should have carried over directly to the PS4, while I might agree a little, I still look at it like this. Sony completely rebuilt this system from the ground up on the PS4 with that said, its expected to miss a few features. Remember these systems, the PS3 and the PS4 are different architectures so it won't be easy to simple apply over. Now if the PS4 had the cell processor, that would be a completely different story. People need to take that into consideration.

stuna14545d ago

@Conzul,Solid,Havok,Saigon

Well said! Which is exactly why I used the analogy of the Death Star. For something that was unfinished or, incomplete, it still was more powerful than it's predecessor.

SpinalRemains1384545d ago

Ewoks are going to help destroy the PS4?

Saigon4545d ago (Edited 4545d ago )

I am not mad and I am sort of use to it because it is N4G, but if your going to disagree to my post please respond why. The PS3 and the PS4 are two separate architectures. The programming for each are completely different. Because of that, it is possible some feature would be missed. If Sony choose to place the cell processor within the PS4 the OS would be simple to transfer over since most of the functions would be one for one. Sony has already stated that the PS4 OS is built from the ground up just as MS stated with the Xbone interface. Both companies had to provide different OSs due to the X86 structure being different than the 'Power PC' based model.

This is not the SDF, I am just stating a fact. I do wish Sony was able to include streaming right off the back including some other features but I patient. I endured the same thing when the PS3 first released and Sony went above and beyond to provide the features for that system. I don't think they would let that falter the PS4, since they already stated they are working to fix the issue. Also, the author needs to get his head out of his a$$ since there is a way to apply the youtube video link to the PS4. Grant it we can't load it directly to the application, but people need to realize companies need to be compensated to allow some of these functions. I am sure Google is working with Sony trying to come to a solution. This link below proves that YouTube won't be as easy this generation.

http://cramgaming.com/youtu...

http://n4g.com/news/1408414...

Pogmathoin4545d ago

I think what people expected was at least what was readily available on 360/PS3.... And more...

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DanielGearSolid4545d ago

I wouldn't call it a lame article. Just his opinion

panbit864545d ago

Then it's a rather lame opinion.

wenaldy4545d ago

Ah, the opinion excuse.

Conzul4545d ago

@wenaldy

Yes, under the safe flag of "opinion" a myriad untruths are gotten away with daily.

ProjectVulcan4545d ago (Edited 4545d ago )

A whole three weeks after it has launched!!!!

Oh noes, what about the next 5 years+ we have with it :-O

cocadaking4545d ago

It's impressive how people nowadays find it's ok to buy a product even if it's lacking all the promised features.

Salooh4545d ago

The solution is simple. You are not ok with it then just don't buy a ps4 and complain. I for one ready to be patience . That's why i bought it day one. Sony will deliver in games and that's all i care about.

Freedomland4545d ago

@cocadaking

What promised features?

Prime1574545d ago

Eh, this gen is different from last. Imo. I knew things were going to be awkward at launch.

Vaud-Villian4545d ago

Who finds it ok? It's a competitive capitalistic market, the consequences for slighting a customer base are dire.

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ZombieKiller4545d ago

Well it is incomplete.....Only in software though. That is what patches are for. I talked to a Sony rep and they stated that MP3 support is coming. Bluetooth support for mics are coming as well. All of it will be here. For now, they wanted to beat the holiday season and more importantly, the competition. So they concentrated first on the console hardware....WHICH IS COMPLETE. The hardware is fine. Software will come in patches. For now, I'll manage.

u got owned4545d ago (Edited 4545d ago )

So you mean its ok for Sony to release an incomplete product? I dont think n4g its so kind with the competition products.

Prime1574545d ago

They never lied. They always talked about games and sharing... games are running well and the sharing is easy via the button and what's new, fb, etc. They said we could stream movies and music via unlimited, then later said they would work on mp3 and dlna.

As of what we've seen so far... it pays games better, and shares easy. Priorities... Gaikai soon.

jessupj4545d ago

Exactly.

If it means that Sony release in time for the holdidays and get a lot of sales, I'm more than happy to wait for the features to be patched.

Why you ask?

Because more sales equals more developer support, which means more games and better performing games.

avengers19784545d ago

Remember how PS3 was as good as it was gonna get right when it came out. Oh wait to constantly added features and improved it... Imagine what the PS4 will be doing a few years from now.

Irishguy954545d ago

I remember yeah, it took them 3-4 years to catch up with the 360's features...and even then it never fully caught up(Backround music, Private chat etc)

ZombieKiller4545d ago

Owned: apparently you don't understand.

THE HARDWARE IS COMPLETE. I said that.

What I am saying is that the software, that will be free and coming to us in a patch, will be coming soon and I would rather wait for a tested, working version, then dealing with the frustration of restarting or it bricking my system...

Did you ever stop to think of the reasoning as to WHY n4g is so nasty towards xbox? I've owned both systems for years now, and both have respectable software/hardware and good games. One company likes to play games, the other likes to take money from you for needless things. It's only the way the company treats their consumers. I don't like MS because of the way they treat people and apart from the blatantly obvious trolls and fanboys, I bet alot of people feel the same way as I do. Sony and MS earned their reputation...at least with me. I have reasons and I bet alot of the educated people on this site feel the same.

kingduqc4545d ago

Ps4 got literally not even 3 good game exclusive to it right now, can't play mp3 for some reason and can't upload video to youtube. This "next gen" system isn't finish and you are okay with that? OH well, I guess that's what fanboys does.

Prime1574545d ago (Edited 4545d ago )

You are entitled to thinking there are no good games, and I'm entitled to my opinion thinking the same about MS. It's funny how fanboys on both sides turn into the fanboys they hate because they don't understand what an opinion is.
I love resogun, contrast, and kz. They're good to me. That's your opinion.

I also think that the order looked like my favorite reveal of both consoles, and infamous will be great as I platinumed the first two. I hate racers, but drive club looks like they are spinning it differently, and it looks gorgeous and interesting to me.

Opinions.

SpinalRemains1384545d ago

Seriously?

Gamers aren't concerned with using their console to upload youtubes. Come off it man.

The thing plays videogames

kingduqc4545d ago

I love how I get disliked because I say there isn't many game on ps4 and that mp3 not being there is retarded hahhaah

PS3n3604545d ago

In this day and age of do it all devices I do find it strange how stripped down the ps4 is. Can you imagine trying to market a smart phone that only made phone calls? The ps4 is essentially a pc so without a doubt if people ask for more features rather than suck on sony teats we will get them.

nosferatuzodd4544d ago (Edited 4544d ago )

King duqc Lol said the pot calling the kettle black why you here you're Xbox is complete right , with you're nfl app and you're tv and kinect why aren't you playing and uploading videos to twitch
Oh I foget twitch doen't work on Xbox until 2014 my bad some of you guys need to just shut the hell up and let Sony work on what they're working on

Grown Folks Talk4544d ago

True. Gamers don't care about uploading to Youtube. Don't let the fact you can go to Youtube right now & find uploaded walkthroughs of pretty much any game you want fool you.

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mrmarx4545d ago

we know it's incomplete.. it's without me

PSX044545d ago

that's what updates for ..... add missing feature and improve others

andibandit4545d ago

but why would you remove features that were present on the ps3.

i think there would be an uproar if apple suddenly remoed mp3 playback on their next iphone and i dont think people would settle for "just wait it will come".

SpinalRemains1384545d ago (Edited 4545d ago )

Andibandit

Apples and oranges.

iPhones main purpose as a mobile device is phone, data and media.

A videogame console is not a mobile device, and SONY knows this. The early adopters, like those of us here at N4G, are only concerned with the games.

Who the hell would be interested in the PS4, but decline the purchase due to lack of YouTube uploads and mp3s. No one

lpc4545d ago

Lau karlo gal ... ye maderchod ha gandu writer kutta dala bc .... Ps4 is not incomplete.

AngelicIceDiamond4545d ago

Funny the 360 and PS3 back then felt incomplete when they launched. Years later when the games library grew and the system features grew as well it was starting to feel like a full package.

It sucks right now that we have to start ALL over (again) to build are collection of next gen games library as well system updates for the system (both systems even) but we'll get there soon, just have patience.

Plus Sony didn't wanna overload the system at launch with features that could slow down the system are that not intuitive.

The writer could of just waited a year before buying a PS4 since he's so upset over the "lack" of launch features.

Key Word here: "Launch features"

jessupj4545d ago

I really don't get you sometimes angel :)

Some days you right a comment and I couldn't disagree more and the next day you right such a well written comment I have no choice but to bubble you up.

You're playing with my mind!

kenshiro1004545d ago (Edited 4545d ago )

This writer's brain is incomplete. Anyone with common sense knows that these consoles just got released. It won't have everything out of the bag.

Tito084545d ago (Edited 4545d ago )

He's the same dude that brought up "And Lebron James is the top tweet for XBox One". Looks like I can be a game journalist and write stupid nonsense, like seriously, PlaystationLifestyle.net despite being a PS fan site, write more interesting and well balanced articles than this moron, and he's complaining about the lack of games and features when it is a known fact it'll eventually come in future updates, what a punk.

Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II4545d ago

My ps4 is for games only i have a ton of other devices for the stuff missing, i bought a ps4 for console only games....thats its only purpose in my house.

ChrisW4545d ago

"And he goes and writes this lame article."

Which you either didn't read or half-assed read.

He actually has a couple decent points. Such as Youtube sharing... For those who love uploading to Youtube, that's a pretty big thing.

FACTUAL evidence4544d ago

This is my list of complaints:

No mp3 playback
No mp4 support
No notification for friends when log on/off
No viewing trophies offline
Effortless looking UI

I have more but those are some that sticks out like a sore thumb.

popup4544d ago

Products like these can and will evolve. It's a good thing as they can listen to the community and look over the fence at what competitors are doing as they go.

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Mikelarry4545d ago (Edited 4545d ago )

its only been 3 weeks and the author of the article is making it sound like its been months/ years and some of these features are still not available with the phrase like "still no this or that". i for one would like them to test and make sure these features work with no issues before releasing them and as for games who purchases a next gen game and expect the AAA games and experiences to start pumping out after 3 weeks come on now be a little more realistic

B1663r4545d ago

Suspend-resume should have been available at launch.

Burrito26a4545d ago

It is there. Asks if I want to suspend games all the time.

Deadpoolio4545d ago

Cause it's such a hard lengthy process to start that game back up...That whopping 30 seconds takes so long

dragon824545d ago

@B1663r

All you have to do is press the PS button to suspend your game. If you want to resume it again all you do is either double tap the PS button or hit X on the game. This was a day one feature. Either you have never seen a PS4 in person or you are an idiot. Which is it?

Angeljuice4545d ago (Edited 4545d ago )

Whilst I agree with you in the most part, there are certain 'legacy' features that should really have been there from the start. I love my PS4 and know that a new console takes time to develop its ecosystem (I bought a PS3 at launch too and saw it grow and develop over time). However there are certain things that it should simply do straight away.

It should play CD's and MP3's out of the box, some may say it's a dying medium (CD's that is), but it takes next to nothing in terms of time and resources to add. I understand that Sony wants to encourage people to use its (rather good as it happens) music service, but I convinced a lot of fence-sitters to take the plunge with Sony's new system and their biggest gripe is that they can't play their music collection through the system.

There are several of these small 'omissions' that add up to them feeling a slight sense of frustration and annoyance with the new system. I keep telling them that it will improve over time but it really ought to be there from the start.

I am a genuine fan of the PS4 by the way, and not trying to put it down in any way. Its the one and only console I intend to own this generation, but this is what my more casual friends are saying.

HmongAmerican4545d ago (Edited 4545d ago )

Its business. They do away with these simple feature so that consumers will have no choice but to use whatever pay music app on the console. Suck if your are into music and you can't play your own music on your console.

Jazz41084545d ago

I thought I heard Sony had been working on the ps4 years before ms started so I do think this article has a point.

ZombieKiller4545d ago

Maybe on a hardware side of things.

It shows in the design of the console. More powerful, built in power brick, and smaller....than the freaking PS3 slim. Seriously, this console is in competition with itself.

Omar914545d ago

Silly author ps4 is for gamers!

ramiuk14545d ago

exactly,rating a consoel becuase it only plays games amazingly and doesnt have loads of entertainment features is LAME.

for me it is missing a few major things only

DLNA,mkv support,external HD support,oh and 3d support

isa_scout4545d ago

Yeah, I def agree DLNA and MKV support are the two big buggaboos for me. I still bought a PS4 at launch, but it sucks not being able to watch my not-so-legally purchased videos on my PS4.
Hopefully when they do bring out the update to allow DLNA and mkv support they forget to include cinivia protection...lol

MatrixxGT4545d ago

Yeah it sounds like he bought the wrong console.

SpinalRemains1384545d ago

Yep.

He wants to move furniture and dance while he pets baby tigers, watches ESPN and talks to his console.

Me, I want to play the newest videogames.

KnightsAreForReal4545d ago

May be incomplete but I'm enjoying it

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lastofgen4545d ago (Edited 4545d ago )

And if this was on the subject of xbox one, it'd be approved in a heart-beat.
It's a shame how biased this website has become..

This is an opinion piece and it's backed up by 4 points that the author feels backs up his opinion on the matter.
How is this flame-bait? If you disagree with his opinion, then that's fine. But tagging it as 'lame' just because you may disagree with his opinion doesn't make it so.

Mods, there is no reason why this should not be approved.

Majin-vegeta4545d ago

It's the same crap people b*tch about every time someone does an article like this.

No MP3
No games
bla bla bla

lastofgen4545d ago (Edited 4545d ago )

From what I've read over the past few weeks, his reasons are a different mix than from what I've read about the ps4.

Honestly, you haven't noticed the large majority of xbox one reviews/impressions that have been submitted over the past few days that all nearly criticize the kinect for its spotty voice recognition, it's user interface, and it's lack of games as well? And those get approved without a report in sight.

Just saying, we could try being a little more impartial around here when it comes to approving submissions.

And who's to decide when it becomes too early or too late to write something like this up? is there a standard in place? until there is, you have no reason to report this is 'lame.'

joeorc4544d ago (Edited 4544d ago )

@lastofgen

"This is an opinion piece and it's backed up by 4 points that the author feels backs up his opinion on the matter. "

really?

this is not the , the PS2 or the 1st XBOX year's where the Hardware's system Software is pretty d@mn static!

This type of Point be that based on the WiiU, xboxone or the PS4 SINCE LAST GENERATION, aT LEAST WITH THE ps3 AND THE XBOX360 was dynamic, that after you buy said systems, the functionality can change on an system OS level. Asking if these functions could not be added is pretty d@mn Moot.

The point saying its "incomplete system" is at its very basic point is its never complete because, these systems on a system software are never going to be complete, until they are no longer supporting the system's and we are a hell of a long way off for that point. So why the hell even bring up this whole entire , really pointless statement that its an "incomplete system" because it is by default as is all three of the new systems are "incomplete"

So its absolutely Pointless to even really make an issue out of it. Because they are all incomplete. hell every smartphone, tablet, or topset box are exactly like that. if it was complete there would be no need for system software updates. that is the very core reason they are not "static" by design.

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA19d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY19d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay19d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos18d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7219d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY19d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator18d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum18d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z18d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad19d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga19d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot18d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose19d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE19d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername18d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy19d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde19d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8619d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8619d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole19d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300019d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot19d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle19d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7719d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments