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Lower your expectations for Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes

"Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes has officially been announced as a standalone title in the Metal Gear Solid V story.

Originally unveiled back in 2012 without the “V” in the moniker, the hype train has since picked up momentum, most recently at the PlayStation 4 launch event. Even though Ground Zeroes carries the weight of a numbered title in the Metal Gear franchise, fans should lower their expectations. In fact, with every new release of information regarding Ground Zeroes, the more skeptical I become."

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LordMaim4560d ago

I stand corrected. Hell no.

crxss4560d ago

don't get me wrong, i think GZ will be great and that's because i'm not expecting much from it. i just wish it was in one MGSV package rather than the separate releases. TPP on the other hand, that will be marvelous.

remember the MGS2 tanker demo in ZOE? that's what i'm expecting

2pacalypsenow4560d ago

i already did , after they changed the voice and other changes im not exited for this one as i was for the the other ones , this one for me is kinda meh..

-Foxtrot4560d ago (Edited 4560d ago )

Yeah they arn't doing anything to get me pumped for this game

- The voice actor
- The way Kojima dealt with the subject, what he did to Hayter
- Rations to regen health
- Another prequel
- Kojima admitting there will be inconsistencies
- Not getting much of a stealth vibe from it

I think he's pushed it with another game. I mean fair enough further the story with new characters but don't go back and try ti make stuff up that there's still stories to tell when there isn't. Least if Hayter wasn't in it it's because we will be controlling a new character

TheOneWhoIsTornApart4560d ago (Edited 4560d ago )

@-Foxtrot: You have no idea whether or not this is only a prequel. Your assertions are ridiculous. For all you know MGSV will span multiple eras and end after 4 so why don't you just wait and see. Your whining is insufferable. Every MGS article you show up like clockwork and bitch.

-Foxtrot4560d ago (Edited 4560d ago )

@TheOneWhoIsTornApart

Right first of all when you reply to someone don't go to personal attacks and come off as a douche.

Second of all, lots of people complain and share concerns, look at this article, it's not just one person....I mean IT'S THE INTERNET, people on N4G for example always say roughly the same things in different articles whether they are good OR bad...we all do it. Even you. It's what the point of this site is for

Thirdly...if you can have the same people saying the same old good stuff about something why can't people post the same criticism/concerns. You can't reject one side of comments because you don't like it

Lastly...don't like peoples comments....ignore them.

Simple

EDIT - Oh and I forgot to say the reason I say things despite not knowing is because I deal with the information given at the present time. When new info comes along your comments get updated. Not hard to understand but he's given us no hints that it will span across multiple eras thats just your speculation

TheOneWhoIsTornApart4560d ago (Edited 4560d ago )

@-Foxtrot:My problem is you continue to complain about the same exact thing every time there is an MGSV article when you don't know for a fact some of the stuff you listed are going to be part of the game such as it only taking place early in the MGS timeline as a prequel and Hayter not voicing Solid Snake since we may be wrong about all of those things. I'm just saying man you won't let the games come out first before writing Kojima off as an asshole for changing things about the MGS series without knowing all the facts. If I came off as rude I apologize but this constant attacking of Kojima is kind of unwarranted without knowing all the details.

Edit. In reponse to your edit. Im not really speculating about it spanning multiple eras I'm just saying it is a possibility and maybe that will be the case but we should all just wait and see what Kojima has planned because we all know that he is a tricksy one.

-Foxtrot4560d ago

@TheOneWhoIsTornApart

Me...look around mate most people are saying roughly if not similar things to me.

Don't just single out one person because it makes your whole comment look stupid when you refuse to acknowledge other people. It's like your doing it on purpose for whatever reason

Joe9134560d ago

I would have to agree with TheOneWhoIsTornApart but Foxtrot is right everybody is complaining but that is whats so annoying and I find this on the movie sites as well but now a days ppl hate on stuff without knowing all the info I understand voicing concerns but ppl are talking like they visited the studio and did not like what they seen lol it is madness this goes out to eveybody not just foxtrot that is why I do not like were no info is given and you play to find out anything because you have to deal with this crap if Kojima did not play all these games ppl would not have such a negative outlook about this game if Hayter is going to be in future MGS as Solid snake then say it so ppl can stop crying lol oh and if he want to change stuff he needs to reboot the whole thing

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Aleithian4560d ago

Agreed. I'll wait a year or two until the Ultimate edition (or whatever it will be called) releases. But prudence aside, I'm simply not that into it now after Kojima's antics and the whole prologue mess. Honestly - after ditching the voice actor I'm not even sure I will buy it. That was a really scummy move IMO.

gamedebater4560d ago

It's going to be a bit longer than the tanker level in MGS2. Prolly only a 3-5 hrs

Tdmd4560d ago

Should it be 5 hours long, I'll be more than pleased! On the other hand, less than that, it is a glorified demo and, as much excited about it as I am, I'm not paying for a demo... I'd wait for the complete experience instead.

gamedebater4560d ago

bro I replayed the tanker level in MGS a million times over. It was great. The demo we saw @ TGS showed how snake can infiltrate bases differently. I just hope that they can the stealth right "as" good or better than Last of Us since they game pure perfection.

Joe9134560d ago

I agree 5 hours is long enough for a $30 game I think ppl just want something more to bitch about honestly ppl need to wait and see how long GZ is before bitching about it cause if it is 5 hours then it is longer than COD ghost yea some ppl say you get COD for muiltiplayer but first I like storys if the story is crap I wont buy the game second who is to say that MGO will not be in GZ so bottom line stop crying until we get more info if it is a two hour game Im right with you to short to be worth $30.

DCfan4560d ago

Already did that. Konami seems to have forced themselves into the development this time which is not so good.

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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain - Brutal Backlog

Over ten years after its release, does Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain still impress? Jump Dash Roll returns to Snake's world for this Brutal Backlog.

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CrimsonWing6992d ago

I don’t think I’ve ever quite experienced an unfinished game that was slapped together with duct tape and construction paper to be sold as a finished product, basically making you replay the same missions and include a story that clearly was missing so much of the plot, like I did with this game.

I’m actually shocked that it doesn’t get calls out for this more.

franwex92d ago

It did. But the gameplay loop is still pretty good.

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CoPilot: Gaming Chat is an amazing revelation - A true gamer friend at your side

CG writes: In this video, we take Microsoft's Copilot for a spin and talk about gaming and AI influences, and the implications of that. We talked about a possible Metal Gear Solid V remaster, Deus Ex remaster, Hitman Blood-Money mission, and more. Imagine trying to talk gaming with non-gaming friends in real-life and after 5 seconds, they switch off and possibly yawn. Well, CoPilot isn't like that, instead it's like talking to a like-minded gaming fan who is totally on your level. The public version of CoPilot released in Feb 2023 and already it's become almost indistinguishable from a real person.

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Metal Gear Solid 5, Nearly After A Decade, Is Still A Timeless Classic

The Metal Gear series, led by Kojima, pioneered the stealth genre, creating a masterclass in storytelling and gameplay.

SimpleSlave723d ago (Edited 723d ago )

No. But MGS5: Ground Zeroes might actually be one of the greatest Game Demo ever, if not the best.

xHeavYx723d ago

I know a lot of people didn't, but I actually liked that story twist at the end. The game was fun and all, but I wouldn't call it a timeless classic.

Cacabunga722d ago

Metal Gear legend stopped with number 4.
MGS5 needed a year or 2 more of development to be maybe among the classics.. it was clearly rushed, especially at the end. The story teaches us absolutely nothing new.

just_looken723d ago

A demo is free that was a $40 cry for help as later we would know konami did not want to fun hideo and his team anymore that is why we got the unfinished phantom pain.

-Foxtrot723d ago (Edited 723d ago )

Meh

Great stealth gameplay but the game was just average.

Bland open world that felt lifeless, the story felt shoehorned in, unfinished story etc. The whole thing was just average to me compared to the other main titled games.

I would have rather preferred it if they kept Ground Zeroes for the main game as the opening and the rest of the game turns into a Metal Gear 1 & 2 remake to bring things full circle.

just_looken723d ago

If you dig around they had old behind trhe scenes of phantom pain vids and books wrote around the time.

Before funding was puled the main idea was to keep peace walker coop it was in the games early builds and that end game were your building your base that was suppose to be metal gear one.

You as the fake big boss was going to make your own metal gear one map aka your base (outer heaven) then me as sold snake use the mode that is in the game invade/defeat the base even fight your current version of metal gear that was in the game but not finished.

So your idea was on the table bit got canned.

CrimsonWing69723d ago (Edited 723d ago )

Like hell it is. That was the first time I became aware of being sold an unfinished game and was blown away about blind fanboys saying it was some perfect game.

Yea, the first few chapters were great until they do that thing halfway and make you replay all the missions again. Then little things like capturing animals but only seeing a JPEG unlike 3 where everything was modeled out. Areas were massive, desolate, and boring to look at.

Game was a massive let down for me and the potential was so high for it. Honestly, this was one of the most disappointing games I ever played. What’s worse is it starts off brilliant. You literally play through until you get to the point where you could tell they just stopped developing and then quickly used glue and construction paper to “finish” it and then sold it. Quite frankly, that’s insulting to consumers and fans.

Inverno723d ago

People have selective memory. This game had huge drama attached to it, what Konami did to Kojima and this game was horrible. Now they praise Konami cause they revived Silent Hill, even though SH looks half arsed too.

CrimsonWing69723d ago

I dunno if they’re getting much praise after the Silent Hill 2 debacle. Makes me scared sh*tless for the MGS 3 Remake…

Michiel1989722d ago

I don't wanna defend konami, but Kojima had 7 years to make the game, it's not that weird for a publisher to expect a game to be finished in that amount of time.

Also no one is praising konami from what I've seen, they're just excited that a Silent Hill game is releasing

CrimsonWing69722d ago (Edited 722d ago )

@Michiel1989

You’re absolutely correct. Look, the dude is a visionary and has brought us some incredible games, but he constantly would go over budget and could never stick to a deadline. I don’t know if people remember the MGS 4 trailers but it became a joke when you’d see a release date and then they crossed it out in the next trailer to give another.

What a lot of people don’t know is there’s a certain amount of money given for development and marketing. When you go over the budget and add additional marketing over the deadline it isn’t cheap. MGS GZ and V were laughable to me for the amount of time he had to develop them and he spent even more time on the engine that wasn’t anything revolutionary to me. I mean, GZ was nothing more than a demo and they released that art like $40 I think, probably to further help fund V. He then spent money for Kiefer Sutherland who did nothing for the character, which I think Kojima just wanted because he’s a fan.

Konami just had enough and said this is the deadline and you’re done after this. It’s business, but fans took it personal. I mean look at this Overdose game he’s been doing.,, like when is that ever coming out?

Michiel1989721d ago

I kind of forgot about overdose but yeah exactly my thoughts. He has made some of the best games out there and definitely deserves time to create his new masterpiece, but it's not a bottomless well.

This is pure speculation but I imagine he got around 4 years to make the game excluding pre-production. If after those 4 years the game is nowhere near being done, the relationship will be strained between them one way or another.

about the konami being praised thing, if let's say blizzard announces world of warcraft 2 today I'll be excited as hell for the game, but that doesn't mean my opinion of blizzard changes only a tiny bit cause they're still trash.

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Yui_Suzumiya722d ago

Yeah, it was the only MGS I didn't play and this is coming from someone who got back into gaming after skipping a generation due to MGS4 back in 2008. It just seems to be the complete opposite of the MGS I always knew and loved (1-4).

JEECE723d ago

Yes and no. In many ways in was a great game; there's a very strong argument that it has the best gameplay of any MGS game, and that it is one of the more interesting open world "playgrounds" we have gotten, in terms of how the world operates. But as an MGS narrative, it is pretty far down the list, for many reasons.

Storm23723d ago

I don't think there is any argument. The gameplay was incredible. But yeah...disappointed in the rest. Could have been incredible but...well...we all know what happened...

JEECE721d ago

I don't think there is much of one either but apparently some people found the world very boring compared to the more linear structures of other entries so I didn't make a definitive statement in order to acknowledge the outliers.

DarXyde722d ago

The thing about Metal Gear Solid is that the narrative is what determines which is your favorite because the gameplay had ALWAYS improved with every mainline entry. It's amazing.

If it was gameplay, we'd all say The Phantom Pain, but the story is what truly sets them apart.

For me, that's Snake Eater, which is also my favorite game of all time.

JEECE721d ago

That's my favorite too, particularly if we are talking about the subsistence version with camera control.

Fishy Fingers723d ago

For me, best gameplay, worst, everything else.

Storm23723d ago

Yeah...gameplay was so damn good.

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