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Live Call With Xbox One Customer Support Round 2

MasonicGamer: Last week and after just 3 days my launch Xbox One stopped reading discs. Some of you may have seen my last video Live Call With Xbox One Customer Support.

Well today Monday 2nd December 2013 my replacement Xbox One arrived after 7 days of waiting. With excitement I switched the consoles and downloaded the update only to find that the replacement Xbox One console as the same problem as the first console, IT DOESN'T READ DISCS. So yet again I am left with a £450 paperweight.

I rang Xbox One Customer support again and below is the recording of the conversation I had with Henry (don't think thats his really name). I have had to cut some sections as I needed to give personal details and was left on hold for over 10mins. Sorry about audible noise at the start I was a little close to the mic it clears up after a couple of mins.

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sigfredod4566d ago

It seems that really is something wrong with the xbone drive, the reports are rising and 2 in a row? wow, he should check the serial number maybe they send back the old one by mistake

Gridloc4566d ago (Edited 4566d ago )

I think he said he still has to UPS his first one back. Now sounds like he has 2 to UPS back. Feel sorry for the guy...
Edit: I'm wondering now if they are repairing these faulty ones and sending them out as replacements, and or reselling them as refurbished...

KYU21304566d ago

actually MS said that they will attempt to repair the defective console before even thinking about sending a new one. So it is possible that all they did(after seeing what the inside of the console looks like) is replace the drive and re-box the console.

but thats just what i think.

nukeitall4566d ago (Edited 4566d ago )

It is standard practice to repair the console, but personally, I would take it back to the store and demand a new one. If they don't have one, to reserve me one when they do.

I don't take sloppy seconds on a purchase within 30 days.

That said, did anyone else think this guy is kind of a d!ck?

So glad I don't work in customer service, but the customer service representative needs to know exactly what you do and what happens. They need to verify the problem and they exhausted all solutions that can be done immediately before shipping you another console.

That gives you faster service.

That said, if you are so upset with the console, just take it back to the store, get your money back. Fact of the matter is, these companies do care. Why?

a) at launch consoles are sold at a loss (although this generation it is smaller than ever) so the profit comes later when you buy content, and accessories

b) it costs the manufacturer money to replace broken consoles and have employees troubleshooting. There is no gain in this.

c) Returns also cost the manufacturer, and the retailer

d) It also affects the manufacturers reputation, that again affects their sales.

This isn't a fly by night outfit so claiming "they don't care, as they already got my money" is BS.

Did anyone consider that this might be the disc, and not the consoles?

He doesn't show the problem on screen, and is being extremely vague about it.

I might have missed it, but the customer service rep didn't ask for detailed information either. That is very odd.

jb2274565d ago

@nukeitall

If you watch the first video that the guy does, he is very reasonable and patient through the whole thing, possibly having to deal w/ hours on the phone w/ these people as well as giving out upwards of a thousand pounds to get the issue fixed in a rapid manner, only to get a second bricked console has worn him down a bit, which is totally understandable. Also, when someone spends such a large amount on a system and games at launch, reserving one for a later date is usually out of the question, I personally would ask for a full refund and maybe try again in a year or twos time if i still felt up to it. Yes consoles are typically sold at a loss, but that's not necessarily the case this gen, all breakdowns have put potential profit at around 20 dollars a unit. It's not the disc w/ issues as the man has plainly stated that he has all of the launch games, and has probably tried every one before going through this. At the end of the day, the UI is reportedly difficult to navigate w/o Kinect, and a large warning under the disk drive about refraining from moving the console w/ a disc inside points to the fact that the console should've been delayed when they decided to ditch the drm. Microsoft shipped an incomplete or broken console in order to compete w/ Sony during the holidays when what they should've done is put the system out when it is fully ready at a later date. It seems like the fact that the disc drive was originally intended to only install games on an occasional basis that the quality was skimped on. Both systems have their launch issues, but it seems at least in Sony's case that they might have been a bit more prepared to launch when they did, and in Microsoft's case, last gens ridiculous rrod debacle should have taught them a hard lesson, if one console needed to launch w/ little to no problems, it was Microsoft's

LiQuiZoN4566d ago

Should of not supported xbox. Pay more and get less. That's the Microsoft way!
Ps4 has been seamless for my gaming needs.

VENOMACR12274565d ago (Edited 4565d ago )

Plenty of X1 users have had no issues. Obviously if someone has an issue they will be pissed off. Plenty of PS4 users had system issues Day 1. Luckily for you you have not had any problems. Pay more get less? Maybe in yours eyes when comparing hardware specs to hardware specs. The $500 is justified with the included Kinect which is valued well above $100, also the headset is far better then the PS provided ear buds. I'm very happy with my X1 so far and so are many others.

maddskull4565d ago (Edited 4565d ago )

@venomacr1227 you can use your old headsets on the ps4 and they will bring a patch for the headsets that dont work.
the xbox had day 1 issues the reading discs error and some had the green screen and the reports say that the xbox one had more issues than the ps4 especially the disc reading alot had problems

VENOMACR12274565d ago

@maddskull

Didn't the PS4 have the blue light of death? Problems reading discs? The fan sounding like a jet engine? Each system has had it's issues on launch.

Juangie34566d ago

He did not ship the other one back yet he said in the video.

OldSchoolGamer4566d ago (Edited 4566d ago )

Feel so bad for this guy. This was so me last generation, this brought back deja vu. Went through 11 defective launch 360's. The most frustrating thing is their lack of empowerment to fix the issue. Microsoft puts all the emphasis on the customer to suffer and do all the work its a shame.

My favorite conversations with them: after the 5th broke they had outsourced their call center to India and apparently didn't send any records over so when I called about that one they would not expedite any shipping of the coffin or the return as it was my first broken one regardless of arguing. When my 7th died and x box racing wheel was DOA I got called by tier 3 from the Microsoft campus. I was assured in the future I could work directly with them in the future, simply ask for them and it would be notated on my account, no number could be provided for direct contact though (which should have raised flags in my head). For console 8 I call and they claim that tier 3 doesn't exist (even though I had worked with them 3 months before). My final console sadly stopped reading my game disc's and was not RROD, so my extended warranty ran out by that time and only a RROD issue was covered by their 3 year extra extended warranty they offered for their poor manufacturing. Throughout it all I asked for a second gen console each and every time that had reduced failure rates and was told no because that's not what I had purchased, and I said I should be entitled to one that simply works for all the hassles, but of course not. That one I actually had to buy a brand new one (or have wasted about a grand on games and accessories). The final straw was for my 10th x box live anniversary they sent me $0.25 worth of live points which would mean I would need to spend more money to take advantage of the "gift." I called and went on their chat support to tell them to keep their quarter and see if they would do anything as a last chance to retain me as a Customer since I was an original x box purchaser and live supporter since day 1 and they could only apologize.

Suffice it to say I am now a day one Sony PS4 owner. Sad to hear they haven't learned how to treat customers and their product is still broken garbage that causes more intense times of frustration and anger that was more memorable than the fun times it actually worked.

Speak with your wallet and don't support bad customer service and broken products, only then might they actually change or they go out of the console business.

maddskull4565d ago

sorry to tell you that you are stupid to have many 360's that are defective and keep getting another one

ambientFLIER4565d ago (Edited 4565d ago )

WTF? 11 xboxes? I've been gaming on the 360 ever since 2007, so for 6 years, and quite a lot, and out of the 4 xboxes (3 bought for others), only 1 ever died (video card fried, not rrod). The one that died was a 20gb launch unit. One 60 gb unit, one launch arcade and one 250gb slim are still perfect. Either you have the worst luck in the world, your power source is frying these things, or it's fake...

MasonicGamer4566d ago

Nope I still have the first (Launch Console) with me, all boxed up and waiting on UPS to pick it up tomorrow.

When you report a faulty console you have to put a £300 deposit down and Microsoft send you a 'New' replacement, you then switch the consoles and return your old console in the box with a pre paid UPS sticker included.

I know I am not the only person with these launch issues, 2 of my friends are having the very same problems with the drive not reading discs. They are still waiting on their replacement consoles so at this time do not know if they got sent faulty ones...

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Neonridr4566d ago

Oh my god, I feel so bad for you. I watched your first video and couldn't believe how polite you were through all of that. At least you are clearly showing your frustration this time.

Here's hoping they open the vault for you this time around.

PS - I really hope that was Vodka in that glass you were drinking.

MasterCornholio4566d ago

His replacement is having problems.

Talk about bad luck.

True_Samurai4566d ago

I thought my x1 was having problems when I first got it. There was no sound coming from my TV. Called CS and they told me to turn on surround sound on my TV and it worked. Mines was quite polite

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-Foxtrot35d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle35d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7735d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk7739d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300040d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7240d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit40d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania40d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit40d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0739d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr40d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box40d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr40d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit40d ago (Edited 39d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9540d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7240d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--40d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7240d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket40d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm40d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde40d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9239d ago (Edited 39d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_40d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted40d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit39d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9239d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT40d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers40d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14940d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0739d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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