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Next gen hardware, PS4 50% more powerful?

TechRaptor - So with the release of the Ps4 and hot on its heels the release of the Xbox One, I decided I would do a write-up with a more technical breakdown of the specifications of the two consoles, obviously power and therefore graphics aren’t everything, but when we are discussing what are intended to be ‘next gen’ consoles should 1080p resolution be expected? Baring in mind the two consoles are probably likely to last till at least 2016 where 4k should have taken firm establishment.

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Gozer4557d ago

Ryse is proof the ps4 is not 50% more powerful. Ryse is easily the best looking next-gen title period.

Xsilver4557d ago (Edited 4557d ago )

really Ryse has the eye Candy but not the performance to match sooooo yeah and Do you really think Ryse wouldn't run better on the PS4 SMFH.

theBAWSE4557d ago

lmfao a 900p game that frame rate drops into the TEENS ..

if you want to claim the xbone is powerful do not use a game that has performance lower than most 360 games

electricone854557d ago

And killzone is the same way, so whats your point?

Xsilver4557d ago

@electricone85
I'm sorry what? KZ has great graphics and great Performance you do know what performance is right? :/.

Neonridr4557d ago (Edited 4557d ago )

Now Now, the Xbox 360 would blow up if it thought about doing anything that Ryse does. I agree that the framerate is all over the place, but the 360 barely had any games that were native 720p. And nowhere near as detailed as Ryse is.

dedicatedtogamers4557d ago

Not sure if the OP was joking. Ryse is an example of "smoke and mirrors". Sub-HD, framerate drops, glitchy physics, and corridor gameplay that allows them to pump up the graphics.

Oh, but "corridor gameplay" is only a bad thing when people want to talk smack against Naughty Dog games, right? Right. It's perfectly fine in a game like Ryse, of course.

GameNameFame4557d ago

Either way, pointless arguing about two completely different types of games.

We have AC running 1080P on ps4 and 900P on Xbox One.

Battlefield 4 running 900P on PS4 and 720P on Xbox.

COD running 1080p on PS4 and 720P on Xbox One.

Literally, only fanboys can deny the power difference.

u got owned4557d ago

PS4 is 50% more powerfull.

Here is the Xbox die photo (x-ray). The specs are what they are.

http://www.chipworks.com/en...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

That secret sauce /s

CryofSilence4557d ago (Edited 4557d ago )

@electrone

Killzone runs 30+ fps (frequents mid 40s) at full 1080p in single player. It runs at 50-60 fps in multiplayer also at 1080p. To top it off, I believe that Killzone is the technologically superior game in terms of what it is doing with graphics (gameplay is no contest as Ryse is like "playing a dial phone," according to a journalist). Ryse runs at 900p and scarcely hits the 30 fps target (averaging at 26ish). I will say that the character detail in Ryse is stunning and does exceed those of Killzone.

Jughead34164557d ago

Ryse looks good no doubt. If it were on PS4, it would be 1080p, 60fps.

JokesOnYou4557d ago (Edited 4557d ago )

Yeah Jughead if they delayed it until March or downgrade it more cause ps4 doesn't have any 60fps exclusives. In fact ps4 launch exclusives really aren't demanding games, Knack is ..uhm well Knack and KZ SF simply turns up graphics with no compelling features and fails at 60fps.

So say what you like about Ryse but the proofs in the pudding, folks like to conveniently forget Ryse pushes more polys, cloth physics, facial animation, performance capture animation etc and Ryse according to Digital Foundry final analysis Ryse is displayed more potential next gen game dev then any other game released so far on consoles:

"That said, if you really want a taste of what we can expect from the next generation of consoles, Ryse towers over the rest."
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

-PS fans talk alot as usual but proof once again is right there.....from the break down of all the tech running Ryse. Talk is talk X1 is walking the walk with the first games to truly bring some next gen exclusives to consoles, Ryse is mentioned even by those who bashed it as having truly great next gen visuals. KZ SF looks great but isn't said to be breaking any new ground, it's a better looking KZ3, worst for a established exclusive franchise it continues to fall short of being a top tier shooter, mostly always overshadowed by the big boys like Halo, COD, BF, and Gears.

Ryse 2 will likely generate near the same fanbase as KZ currently has even though it's been around less time, its unfortunate for GG but KZ has just never established an identity and delivered that big time gameplay that grabs a significant fanbase.

Xsilver4556d ago

@jokes omg your mixtermedia O.O

PX544556d ago

Graphics can be impressive yes, but i would gladly revert 10 years graphically if it meant better gameplay. Ryse has little/no gameplay, it's button bash then quick time event.

BallsEye4556d ago

@theBAWSE

Stop talking bS. Framerate does not drop to TEENS and that 900p look better than some 1080p games thanks to great AA and next-gen layered upscaler.

Let's compare DIRECT FEED from retail build of ryse 900p native

http://www.gamepur.com/file...

http://static.giantbomb.com...

http://static.giantbomb.com...

to killzone retail version 1080p native

http://static.gamespot.com/...

http://static.gamespot.com/...

http://static.gamespot.com/...

How is ryse looking any worse here? There is much more to screen quality than resolution. There are such things as pixel quality and AA. THat's why Ryse look on par if not better with 1080p native games. You can disagree all you want but proof is here.

JokesOnYou4556d ago (Edited 4556d ago )

Ballseye they will only name call or then change the subject to gameplay even though Ryse plays well not nearly as bad as they haters say, they'll bash it cause they know it's pushing next gen graphics and features (read the Digital Foundry link then read KZ SF) because the tech Ryse is running out classes KZ SF, its just the facts. ps4 on paper is more powerful but it's what you do with that power, ironicly the company that is supposedly less about gaming actually had next gen games that at least demonstrated the potential of what to come for next gen while sony released some 1080p games that don't even try to wow us beyond higher pixel count. Even I know ps4 is better than that.

GTgamer4556d ago (Edited 4556d ago )

@Jokeson
"KZ SF simply turns up graphics with no compelling features and fails at 60fps."
And the Compelling feature in Ryse is? Last time i checked KZ achevied 60 fps not locked but still it hits 60fps regardless.

"Ryse pushes more polys, cloth physics, facial animation, performance capture animation etc and Ryse according to Digital Foundry final analysis Ryse is displayed more potential next gen game dev then any other game released so far on consoles"

Wooow are you talking about the eye candy where allot people say Ryse isnt even a game lemme guess graphics over gameplay right :/ you think if KZ had the same on rails gameplay small congested area they couldnt acheive the same character detail as Ryse -_-.

"That said, if you really want a taste of what we can expect from the next generation of consoles, Ryse towers over the rest."
As a tech demo that looked better at E3 when it ran on PC.

"Ryse is mentioned even by those who bashed it as having truly great next gen visuals. KZ SF looks great but isn't said to be breaking any new ground, it's a better looking KZ3, worst for a established exclusive franchise it continues to fall short of being a top tier shooter, mostly always overshadowed by the big boys like Halo, COD, BF, and Gears."

:/ maybe overshadowed but still manages to sell more than all the X1 exclusives unlike Ryse :) wait hold on Knack just outsold DR3 and you tried to insult knack tsktsk now who's really being overshadowed.

"Ryse 2 will likely generate near the same fanbase as KZ"
Now i know your delusional Ryse was a Kinect game ok point blank you really think KZ doesnt have a strong community may not be as big as Cod and BF but it damn sure drwafs Ruse's fanbase lmao your rediculous you know that, how you have so many bubbles with your logic is mind blowing.

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Enemy4557d ago (Edited 4557d ago )

A comment from Gozer yesterday that shows his credibility:

"If Xbox goes under, I will quit gaming. There is no way Ill game on a crappy sony console."

Ryse is linear tech demo with 4 hours of repetitive gameplay. Even with linearity, the frame rate still isn't smooth.

The PS4 being 50% more powerful isn't an opinion. It's a fact.

40% advantage in GPU power alone.

http://www.gamechup.com/war...

http://n4g.com/news/1353541...

http://n4g.com/news/1304933...

http://n4g.com/news/1263235...

PS4's GDDR5 RAM laughing at Xbox One's DDR3.

Just stop, Gozer.

Xsilver4557d ago

i was literally about to post that same comment to show how delusional Gozer is.

pyramidshead4557d ago (Edited 4557d ago )

@Enemy I salute this epic ownage. +bubbs sir.

Also the XB1 die scans are out now and apparently all that secret sauce everyone was on about? Sadly doesn't exist :P. MisterX AM CRY!

AndrewLB4557d ago

Perhaps you can explain then why Sony dumbed down the texture resolution (not the display resolution) on all these launch games that are running 1080p? And don't even try to tell me that is anti-aliasing because it's nothing but blurry, muddy textures. Just look at any launch game and you'll clearly see how bad the textures look especially in open areas where you can see some distance. The LOD is horrible.

Hicken4556d ago

@AndrewLB: Perhaps you can provide some sort of evidence to back up your claim?

Just saying Sony did these things doesn't mean they did.

So how about some proof?

BallsEye4556d ago (Edited 4556d ago )

GDDR5 laughs at DDR3 and yet ps4 peak bandwidth is 176 gb/s when xbox ones is 272 gb/s. Funny how you have no clue how RAM works. GDDR5 is great for what it does but it's not the ultimate solution, else we'd have GDDR memory in PC's instead of DDR. Enemy, you're a known biased troll. Stop trying to play smart neutral guy. Both consoles got it's pros and cons. Face it, XO beats ps4 in some areas while ps4 beats XO in other. There is no 50% more power. It's sad tho that most of your sheep followers will believe you blindly, just because they wish it would be as you say.

gamer20134556d ago

I've seen many people in the Sony camp making similar comments here as well as in other forums over the years. So you're jab at Gozer is silly.

H0RSE4556d ago (Edited 4556d ago )

"The PS4 being 50% more powerful isn't an opinion. It's a fact."

but like Jokes said -

" ps4 on paper is more powerful but it's what you do with that power..."

that being said, I have seen nothing released from Sony that really illustrates this 50% increase in power. They have released multiplats that although sport better specs, look largely identical, and exclusives that look as good or worse than X1 exclusives.

Ryse may be a repetitive snoozefest, but it looks f***ing spectacular, considering the hardware it is running on. Crytek was able to create a game that despite running at a lower resolution, arguably looks as good or better than the current "flagship graphics title" (KZ) on PS4.

dakunclear4556d ago

Okay first of all its actually has nothing to do with the peak of each system, it's more to do with the fact that the PS4's unified memory works better for moving information around between the GPU and the CPU. The biggest issue for the Xbox One is the fact that Kinect eats up 2 processor cores and a chunk of ram, now naturally over time that will change for both consoles. Another thing to keep in mind is the eSRAM is the bottle neck for the Xbox One, so just like last generation we will find that multiplatform games with look much better on the PS4 then on the Xbox One. Just like how the cell processor had a lot of power, but was harder to develop for which showed in multiplat games. We can only hope that Microsoft is smart and plays off of this to make exclusives look a hell of a lot better, but as time goes on but we shall see if they do that.....so I won't buy either console for another year until I can see more games and what consoles offers the better exclusives, till then I will continue to work on 2 games that I am developing for android, iOS and Wii U....now keep in mind the dev kits I've seen make the PS4 system much easier to code on compared to the Xbox One, which also plays a major factor.

Just my two cents though have fun gaming :D

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Kayant4557d ago

On a technically level KZ beats Ryse in some places but Ryse does have the upper hand of having better Facial animations/modelling most of the time.

OverPaperSkies4557d ago

Ryse is gorgeous, even at 900p (I didn't notice) But much like Crysis it lacks on everything else.

But yes, It probably is the best looking launch title. Shame it's s*it.

Ranma14557d ago

I would say even PS4 will have better graphics than current high end PC games because PS4 is made specifically for gaming and its power is utilized more efficiently solely for that

MidnytRain4557d ago (Edited 4557d ago )

Current "high end" graphics cards alone cost as much as the PS4 itself, so no, it won't. Never mind NEXT years cards. Or the year after that...

Lol @ "made specifically for gaming". I guess Nvidia and AMD make cards for people to do their laundry?

wishingW3L4557d ago (Edited 4557d ago )

don't think so. Current high-end PC's not only have crazy powerful GPU's which easily surpass 2 Tflops of calculations by itself but they have much more powerful CPU's than the Jaguar dual cluster on the PS4.

PS4's more powerful than the XB1, that's for sure, but nowhere near comparable to a current high-end PC. Not even close.

GrandTheftZamboni4557d ago (Edited 4557d ago )

No denying that high-end PCs have advantage in constantly improved hardware. The problem is that there is lot of OS (Windows) between a game and the metal. PS4 has advantage there. Steam box might change that though as it will apparently use Linux optimized for gaming.

corvusmd4557d ago

Truth, but look how many people really want that to be false....36 people so far that probably have never played it disagree

esemce4557d ago (Edited 4557d ago )

If Ryse ran at 1080p/60fps and look a little better than it already does then yes, but it cannot even run at a locked 30fps.

Maybe we need to see something like Crysis 4 on both consoles to see them maxed visually. Though I think BF4's 64 player match is a good test for how powerful or not these consoles are.

Angels37854557d ago (Edited 4557d ago )

PFFFFHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAH XDDDDDDDDD

AlmodSt EVERY reviewer says killzone looks better...heck even POLYGON....the site that bashes playstation profucts agrees killzone SPECIFICALLY looks better than ryse.....and letforms at TWICE the framerate. They said it on their xbox one live stream killzone looked better.

You are so full of shit gozer you have said before you do not even have or played killzone.

assdan4557d ago

Even if it is "better looking," which I doubt you could tell (assuming you don't own both next gen consoles), it's probably not nearly as hard to run as KZSF. Fewer characters on screen, less AI, less physics, half the framerate, and 44% higher res. I wouldn't really call that one harder to run. Also, KZSF has real time shadows in MP.

Belking4557d ago (Edited 4557d ago )

Not only Ryse but quantum break too.ps4 is not 50% more powerful and sony has never made such a foolish claim. Whenever they prove it(other than than pointless articles)maybe it will be believable, but until then, i say prove it. the xbox-one has the best looking games in Ryse, Forza and quantum break.

christocolus4557d ago

Dude ignore these guys..you know you cant reason with most of them.ive tried in the past..its pointless.

Why o why4557d ago (Edited 4557d ago )

There's a lot of denial in here. Funny thing is belks doesn't acknowledge ANY power gap between the two despite the differences in multiplats. You siding with him just makes you seem blind to the facts.

Serious question. ..what DO you think the power gap is if you can state it without raising your blood pressure? May not be 50% but it sure isn't 20% if the current crop of multies are anything to go by in my opinion. Do tell.

millerj27404557d ago

I still don't know why people keep using Quantum Break as an argument... We've all seem the trailer, am I the only one who isn't impressed? I'll go watch it again, but my first impression was that it didn't look as good as Ryse or KZSF. I also don't think it looks as stunning as The Order, Infamous SS, or Deep Down.

And stop using Forza as an argument too. If you can't make a racing game look good by now, you shouldn't even be developing games.

Yodagamer4557d ago

It's easy to make a great looking game, but when that game runs like crap then what's the point? Do i want a playable great looking game or a great looking low framerate game? Yeah give me the playable one.

Hercules1894557d ago

So youre admitting that you would rather play Forza 5 than Driveclub. Because that is exactly what youre saying.

Yodagamer4556d ago

Read "Playable" 30 fps is playable as well. So no i didn't admit anything. Plus i'm just going to stick with forza 4 as it has more content and doesn't look too far off forza 5.

Cuzzo634557d ago

There is a reason you have 2 bubbs....

USMC_POLICE4557d ago

@gozer your a moron you must believe everthing micro$oft says.

christocolus4557d ago (Edited 4557d ago )

@Gozer

Dont argue with them.there is no point.just let it go..allow the games from both sides do the talking...you just relax and have fun playing the games you like on the platform of your choice.thats what matters. By the way i just concluded ryse and i enjoyed it...good game.

Trekster_Gamer4557d ago

Agreed!

I finished RYSE today. I wasn't sure given all of the negative and lies spewed about it.

It was the best looking game I have ever seen on any console.

The story was really good!

It has great hack and slash action, but there is much more than just that. I almost expected after some unjust reviews that it was just hack and slash and nothing more, they either didn't play it or was just being unjust.

The voice acting was really good, along with most awesome facial animations.

The environments, OH the environments!

As soon as it was over I knew
Would play through this game at least twice more!

I have yet to see a better looking game on the ps4. Isn't supposed to be as easy as PC as far as development?

50%¿????????? Yeeeeaaahhh rrriiiiggghhtt

kB04557d ago

Also Ryse runs the Cry engine which has had a very long life already.

It's honestly very disheartening for people to argue core facts that the GPU on the ps3 is 50% more powerful...

The only thing is this could be a varied result. SOme games that aren't shader heavy won''t actually see a 50% difference they might see 20 or 30 etc.

The point is the PS4 GPU is stronger. There is no debating that.

The only thing is...does it matter? I would buy an Xbox one over ps4 if the games are better.

Stop being blind and read specs. Specs don't lie, people do.

PS4 > Xbox one in terms of power. But power alone doesn't win a war alone.

I expect great things from both consoles.

NewZealander4557d ago

well said, looking back at last gen ps3 had a huge graphical advantage over 360, even bigger then the gap between X1 and ps4.

http://www.ign.com/articles...

but at the end of the day both consoles had issues handling different games, with all ps3's extra power we still saw ports that were inferior to 360, probably the worst case of this was ghostbusters.

http://www.eurogamer.net/vi...

and while ps3 showed what it was capable of with exclusives like uncharted, they still weren't light years ahead of the competition, its only that there was no way to compare.

point is power is great but that doesn't mean you are guaranteed the best versions of multiplat games, i choose a console biased on my overall experience and exclusive games, i prefer halo over anything i ever played on ps3, and looking back at last gen i had more fun with 360, so for me its a easy choice to get X1 first, the raw specs on ps4 are better no doubt, but as fantastic as that is if it doesn't have the games i love then specs mean squat.

GoodnessGreatness4557d ago

Killzone looks better, Infamous Second Son definitely looks better. There's also lots of frame drops and it's not even 1080p.

MasterCornholio4557d ago

Running at 900P with a horrible framerate.

900P is something that I can't accept but frame rate dips to 16FPS is unacceptable.

ddversteeg4557d ago

Why is that proof?? It will only be proof if the PS4 can't handle Ryse..
But if they bring it to the PS4 it will probably run better..

GarrusVakarian4557d ago (Edited 4557d ago )

Linear corridoor game in 900p and has framerate dips into the teens vs a semi open-area FPS in full native 1080p that sits between 30 - 45 fps in the singleplayer.

And that's at the start of the gen. Don't forget the blatant multiplat differences either, devs aren't just CHOOSING to make X1 games run at lower res, they have no choice. Devs like Naughty Dog are going to show the power difference the most, you wait.

xavierbigdaddy19724557d ago

Yeah, ok. When the last time you had a c.a.t scan done on yourself

nosferatuzodd4556d ago (Edited 4556d ago )

dude ps4 is more powerful in every way gddr5 50 percent more gpu power 1.8 grs cpu vs xbox 1.75 deal with it I know its hard but it just is sorry to burst you're bubble

xenz4556d ago

900p/20fps and is a launch game.. yeah, Xbox One is soooo powerful.

Compare this to Shadow Fall which has near, if not, better graphics than Ryse and runs at 1080p/45-60fps (SP)/60fps (MP).

But each to their own I guess.

RichMcfly4556d ago

@jokesonyou, I prefer they delay a game fir a year if they have to, if that ensures that it'll be a great game. You see your Xbox machine did one fatal mistake, it released all it's exclusives besides Halo and Quantum break or whatever it's called so I imagine what "great" games are going to come next year when ps4 got Infamous that makes Ryse and all those games combined look like early ps3 graphically, The Order, Uncharted, Drive Club, and much more. People now have Alzheimer's disease as they all acting like ps3 didn't have the most and best exclusives ever. Just wait for the year of Kinect games again lol.

medman4556d ago

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SpinalRemains1384556d ago

Lol yeah, all 5 hrs of it.....in 900p.

Do you hear yourself.

S2Killinit4556d ago

playing Ryse, its just a reskinned gears of war. the movement mechanics are exactly the same, now with swords instead of guns. its not a bad game, but not an awesome game by any means. gameplay is meh

Magicite4556d ago

Gozer is easily the blindest fanboy, period.

Rockstar4556d ago (Edited 4556d ago )

@Gozer

Tsk Tsk. Come on now... (psst...your fanboy is showing)

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Neonridr4557d ago

The only thing that Ryse proves is that however much the PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox One ultimately means very little when you do comparisons.

If the PS4 is 50% more powerful than the XB1 and you compare games like KZ and Ryse then to me 50% means jack $hit.

Both are amazing looking games, period.

GrizzliS19874557d ago

launch day...wait till that comments slaps you across the face in less than 6 months

Neonridr4557d ago

lol, I'm not trying to say anything bad about the PS4 here. I am only trying to say that games from both platforms look great.

Sure games will get better on the PS4, but they will also get better on the Xbox One too. You can't honestly believe that the PS4 is untapped potential while the Xbox One has hit its ceiling can you?

GameNameFame4557d ago

the gaps we see on COD, AC, BF4 and etc will only widen.

There is no dispute as PS4 has more tflop to tap into than Xbox One.

wishingW3L4557d ago

more Tflops, more bandwidth and it allows for more low level programming by completely bypassing Windows and GPU driver layers imposed by DirectX.

http://www.gamesthirst.com/...

S2Killinit4556d ago

this is only week 2. wait till the sony developers (and others) get going and you will see the difference.

Neonridr4556d ago

Agreed, but you have to think that same logic applies to the Xbox One as well. Games won't just stay looking the same on that console too.

reaperofsouls4557d ago

Can't wait for the 29th of november the day the next gen starts in the UK

Bio_Mod4557d ago

I'm waiting too mate, nearly there now :-)

Neonridr4557d ago

I just bought a PS4 today. I am so excited to go home and set it up. This will be my first Playstation console, so it's kind of something special for me.

All the best when you get yours on Friday.

reaperofsouls4557d ago

thanks it been a long wait

esemce4557d ago

You should go and buy a used ps3 if you have never played it's exclusives, Uncharted trilogy, ICo and Shadow of the Colossus HD, Ratchet and clank, GOW, MGS4, TLOU, Heavy rain/2 souls, killzones, Resistance,LBP, Infamous + . Many free on PSN+

Neonridr4556d ago

@esemce - I have never played any of those games, lol. I am really hoping we get the ability to stream games directly to the PS4, so I can play some of those PS3 games you mentioned there. Already activated my free PS+ 30 day account and downloaded Resogun and Contrast.

Xer0_SiN4557d ago

props to you guys for waiting patiently.

MRMagoo1234557d ago

I will get it nearly a day before you in the UK mwahahahah Australia ftw :)

JLT-Sandwitch4556d ago

I'm with you. Its close enough I no longer wish I was american lol. Nothing against americans just proud of who I am

JLT-Sandwitch4556d ago

And here in australia. And its tomorrow. People keep telling me i'm acting like i'm expecting my first born. I tell them its my 3rd lady. I'm trading up to the younger model. Shes small and sexy lol. Still love my older with curves though. Many happy years with my ps3. Kind of sad to see it coming to an end

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BX814557d ago

Wait, what? The flame is dying down? Let's quickly bring back some old crap to build those fanboy fires back up!

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA20d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY20d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay20d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos20d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7220d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY20d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator20d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum20d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z20d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad21d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga21d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot19d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose21d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE21d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername20d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy21d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde20d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8620d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8620d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole21d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300021d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

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-Foxtrot21d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle20d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7720d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments