@BattleAxe: If you have a PS3 and don't have plus, you're doing it wrong.

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Ehh, you can't really blame them for having to charge. Steam has some good sales but doesn't give away legit games like PS+ gets. It's even more so if you own a Vita and a PS4.

Plus most of the game servers from steam games are actually community funded. When everyone pays for the service like this, it allows for some complete fluid interaction that steam can't quite replicate.

This is all coming from someone that owns a very capable PC with a 1440p monitor.

Consoles have their place too and the cost associated are quite validated. If you enjoy gaming first and foremost you will realize this.

PS+ is indeed good value at this point, but the games they give for free are games that I've already played, or games that I'm not interested in. If you don't have a very large budget for buying games, then I agree that PS+ is really good.

I was really supportive of PS+ when it wasn't mandatory, and instead was a value added service. The way I look at it is, if I buy a game for $60.00, I'm paying for a single player campaign and I'm paying for multiplayer modes.

If I don't have PS+, or I choose not to renew a PS+ subscription, I lose over half the value of the $60.00 I paid for that game. I would say that the single player portion is an increasingly small part of most games these days, so the majority of that $60.00 is being used to pay for multiplayer. So what I'm saying is that without paying for PS+ or Xbox Live, the games you buy don't have any value on their own. If you don't pay for the subscription, then you can't play all of the content on the disc that you have bought.

In which case, they should be separating multiplayer from single player content and selling them separately, because it's not fair that you have to pay the full shot of $60.00, and then you are also forced to subscribe to PS+, otherwise you can't play everything you have paid for.

I don't get what people are disagreeing with... This isn't about being a Sony fan or an Xbox fan or whatever. Think about what the argument is here.

I'm amazed at how everyone criticized Microsoft for charging a subscription to play games online (myself included), and yet now that Sony is doing it, everything is ok. People just don't make any sense these days lol

thanks

Normally I'd agree with you BattleAxe but Sony is in dire financial straights right now. Cut them a bit of slack, eh?

I would agree with Battleaxe normally, but seeing as how a year subscription amounts to $4.16 a month, it seems like nitpicking.

fendernow is correct, Xbox live Gold has plenty of services that PS+ doesn't have, like Netflix, hulu etc. Sure these are already free on Playstation but they aren't part of PS+ so technically he is correct, yet he is still so very wrong.

@kneon

You beat me to it. Have a funny bubble.

Yea it sucks when psn has matched or even surpassed xbl and psn players get free games via plus. Bad time to be an xbox gamer.

Yep. Like requiring XBL Gold to use twitter.

Maybe in 2007, but things change and PS+ gives you good games, ms gives you halo 3. Stop living in 2007. With party chat/cross game chat/discounts/free games,PS+ is arguably better or equal to live. Stop using fanboy logic.