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Xbox One Bundles Kinect Because Microsoft Had No Choice

Mixcrosoft has caught a lot of flack for bundling the Kinect with Xbox One.

The reason why Kinect is required for the Xbox One to work actually makes perfect sense. The only question left now is why didn't Microsoft just tell us to begin with?

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DrRobotnik4575d ago

It can't work with out it. Literally they were stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Anarki4575d ago

Saying they couldn't launch with out it is like Microsoft saying they cannot reverse their DRM policies. Look how far that claim got them.

stuna14575d ago

so in other words they're still lying!? You can't have it both ways. Either you need it, or you don't!

DrRobotnik4575d ago (Edited 4575d ago )

I'll wait for the cameraless SKU then.

zeal0us4575d ago

Only a fraction of XB1 owners will use those kinect features fully. Some to most hardcore XB1 gamers will not care for Kinect or to use it. Just look at the 360. Hardcore games really didn't care for it then. I doubt they just magically became Kinect lovers now.

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come_bom4575d ago

Microsoft already confirmed that the X1 works with Kinect plugged off.

I suspect Microsoft is trying to sell the most X1's with Kinect they can to make the most money they can, then later on when sales start decreasing, they'll release a Kinectless X1.

Gore-Content4575d ago

I thought you can turn kinikt off, if you don't want it to spy on you?

Wikkid6664575d ago (Edited 4575d ago )

You can turn it off or leave it unplugged.

PraxxtorCruel4575d ago

It doesn't even have to be plugged in.

MysticStrummer4575d ago

Yup, which means they had a choice.

etownone4575d ago

You gotta wonder who are the masterminds that work at MS.

Your forcing Kinect down our throats, even though MS already stated is not needed and can be turned out... Fine.. But at least price the Xbox One to stay competitive with the more powerful Ps4.
It should have been priced at $399.
I think then, we would have had an epic next gen battle.

MS is going to lose a lot of gamers thus first year going back to Sony.

(and this is coming from a guy that got his xbox One last night)

lot of ppeople don't need or want it.

Idba4575d ago

Agreed. And rumors have said that the Kinect costs about 100-200 usd to make. And that they had to bundle it to make a profit.

T24575d ago

yeah you are absolutely right. I usually get all consoles at some point but I hate kinect, so I'm waiting, MS will release a kinect less SKU in about 2 years for 299 and I will wait.

btk4575d ago

Well if they wait that long the console war for this gen could be over

hellvaguy4575d ago (Edited 4575d ago )

In all fairness, sony also removing choice by forced paid online down our throats. Most people want the options to choose things on thier own. Next-gen consoles are removing some of these choices. I dont want kinect or the new ds4 touchpad that gobbles battery life down to 7 hours a charge. Unacceptable imo.

MysticStrummer4575d ago

Of course they had a choice. They either designed the console based on their estimation of what consumers would want, or they tried to impose their vision on consumers. Either way, they designed the thing.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio33d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing33d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9233d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit33d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing33d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9233d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay35d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn236d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn235d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown35d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay35d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay35d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac35d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger36d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300035d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde35d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde35d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7537d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_34d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.