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Ryse embargo raises many red flags

Ryse looks like a beautiful game, but then why is Microsoft hiding it? Are we having the wool pulled over our eyes?

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TheLyonKing4576d ago

Aren't Embargo's usually for hype?

I am not sure on that but I feel it builds tension just waiting to hear something about it.

Gazondaily4576d ago

A lot of heavy hitters had quite late embargoes like GTA 5 for example. It doesn't necessarily mean there is something to hide but my first reaction when I heard that Forza and Ryse have late review embargoes was that of skepticism.

Time will tell.

OrangePowerz4576d ago

Depends on the game I think. For like GTA5 I think they didn't want to have too much of the game spoiled early and had the late embargo.

Ibviously it can help with creating more hype.

Not sure what the plan for Ryse is. Given it's Crytek I doubt there is much to spoil judging by their last 2 games.

Volkama4576d ago

If it was just Ryse I'd be concerned. It is Ryse and Forza though, and Forza is a pretty safe bet so I suspect these are the 2 games MS is really getting behind and the embargo is just part of the plan to maximise commercial impact.

tigertom534576d ago

am sure they want to spread out the release info to keep the hype going up until lunch am sure it will be 7 or higher scores on average..

JokesOnYou4576d ago (Edited 4576d ago )

Ryse isn't the first game to have late reviews, actually it happens with lots of games these days. It's how they build hype through PR, still doesn't mean you have to buy anything. I mean those who want Ryse and preordered given all the heat/scrutiny on this game just don't care and are intent to try the game for themselves, those waiting for reviews will have them before launch and can wait to buy the game depending on what the reviews say....so really this is fabricating a problem when there is none.

sigfredod4576d ago

buy it first complain later philoshopy

Eonjay4576d ago (Edited 4576d ago )

I'm not to worried about Ryese... sure the story will suck and the gameplay will be dry, but that is a Hallmark of Crytek's visually stunning work. If people are expecting a captivating story and nail biting gameplay.... well nobody is expecting that so take it for what it is. There is nothing to be "worried" about.

theshonen88994575d ago

Normally the only reason an embargo is placed is to delay reviews from hurting pre-orders and day 1 sales. If a game is good the publisher will want reviews early so that they can market it as much as possible in their trailers and ads with scores and box quotes. Hence why The Last of Us's had reviews weeks before it shipped and Killzone/Knack had reviews only a few days before launch.

x5exotic4575d ago (Edited 4575d ago )

Well GTA 5 was promised to be a much detailed version of Los Santos as a "fair trade" to taking away two major cities, and what did we get?
No Jetpacks, no flame throwers, half-assed cheats, half-assed car modifications that only make the cars look uglier, such variety of cars that you find a whole block full of the SAME car, no body modifications (gym, food, good haircuts), and all the other fun stats, in a so-called 'superficial city, and end-game missions on a scale of that used in early-game (assassinate 5 dudes to beat game lol)

OH AND A DOGE! much hype. such detail. wow.

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dedicatedtogamers4576d ago

Let's give the game a chance to prove itself. Are the "haters" (I put that in quotes because this game isn't going to appeal to everyone) going to change their mind if it gets great scores?

Are the "fanboys" (again, in quotes because some people are genuinely interested in Ryse and that's ok) going to change their mind and not get the game or get an XBox One if the reviews are bad?

Of course not. The people who want to get it will get it, the people who aren't interested in Ryse will dismiss it. Let's start off this generation on a good note. Let's not become obsessed with review scores all over again.

MyNameIsNotRick4576d ago

I agree. Also, there are a lot of guys like me who are waiting for reviews. I think a lot of us want it because it looks good (I also love stuff about Rome) but don't want to pay 60 bucks crap gameplay. I hope its good...

tagan8tr4576d ago

The only reviews that should matter are those from reviewers that consistantly rate games the way you do kotaku could slam a game if giantbomb says that same game is good I'll buy it.

Bigpappy4576d ago (Edited 4576d ago )

Why would they be hiding the most scrutinized game of the launch. The pre-orders aren't even leading the pack. The demo's have shown up at every event.
My only guess for the embargo is to have an element of surprise in the single player. Something to get people to run out to the stores maybe.

Why is RYse getting all of this attention anyway? Isn't Foza also part of that embargo? Ryse is a new IP and completely different from any other launch title. They could have easily put an embargo on DR3, as that also is a key title.

The answer is that M$ is aware of the interest and wants to keep the speculation and interest going as long as they can

xHeavYx4576d ago

I'm pretty sure it works the opposite way, with companies showing early why you should run to the store to buy the game.
In my opinion, this game is just pretty characters, nothing more. The combat is repetitive, you win even if you miss the right button combination, enemy AI is dumb. This game will be a 6

osprey194576d ago

I think its not number 1 in pre-orders because its a new IP and people had a rather mixed first impressions with it.

slate914576d ago

@Heavy

Seriously how you have all of those bubbles boggles my mind. I see your blind biased comments in every article on here and it is quite frustrating. You haven't touched the game. You ignore the all positive reviews the game has received and thrive on the few negatives it has received.

OT:
I agree pappy. If they were hiding it we would barely have gameplay to see, and it wouldnt be playable at all the events. Forza 5, I believe, is in no danger at all for negative reviews as the past titles have reviewed well. So the whole "hiding it from negative press" theory goes down the drain imo. Im predicting ryse to be 7-8.5 range, unless critics are blown away by its story telling and gameplay. Or of course, the gameplay is terrible followed up with a generic story line.

Bathyj4576d ago (Edited 4576d ago )

All the attention is because Xbox fans having been touting it as a flagship graphics title. If it turns out graphics is all it is, a lot of people are going to eat a bit of crow.

Personally I think it looks pretty good. We know it's pretty, but I like the setting, I love the series Rome, and I actually think the combat looks more fun than the latest Batman game, that's for sure. If it's smooth and intuitive I can see this being a good game.

I do think it's a bit of a worry, no reviews. MS aren't normally ones to stay quiet when they have anything positive to say. I think they are concerned the damage bad reviews could do right before launch. I guess we'll see soon.

christocolus4576d ago

Im definitly getting ryse ... i just hope the reviews are good though.

tagan8tr4576d ago

@slate91 and your tantrum doesn't indicate your allegiance you invalidate your own statement.

JokesOnYou4576d ago (Edited 4576d ago )

Bathyj it works both ways because a lot of xbox fans know Ryse "looks" better than any ps4 game at launch, so when sonyfanboys spew BS saying there's going to be some huge gap in graphics then of course Ryse is an easy example of why people like myself say "yeah whatever". Sure ps4 will have some beautiful games but until there is something that makes Ryse look considerably behind in graphics nobody besides sony loyal fans is going to drink the koolaid.

Talk is talk, what we see with our eyes is worth a million words. It baffles me why that shocks ps fans just like the whole 1080p stuff, its natural to counter with Forza5 etc when we know there are 1080p games on the box from devs who put in the work vs rushed games...now we can debate all the politics and reasons for the pros and cons but it is what it is and if ps fans throw mud it's only natural to counter with legitimate examples of why we see it as more BS talk vs reality of what's on store shelves.

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speedforce1314576d ago

Reviews can affect sales so if the game is known beforehand it'll review low, then they will hold it back as far as they can, that way, people will buy the game just based off of what they have seen and they end up making more money that way.

It's similar to the movie industry where studios will not give advance screenings to critics. They want people to watch the movie on impulse so that they can make some quick money that way.

There are other reasons as well, such as not wanting the game to be spoiled (like GTAV). It really depends though, it's up to the publisher what they want to do.

Bigpappy4576d ago

Frist off, we would have to assume M$ knows the review score from all of these web sites. We would also have to assume that Forza is also getting very bad reviews.

Forza has never gotten bad reviews. I see no reason why it would start now. Again why all the focus on Ryse?

tagan8tr4576d ago

@Bigpappy now that is well said bubble up

Wh15ky4575d ago (Edited 4575d ago )

@bigpappy

The focus is on ryse because it's a new ip.

Surely thats obvious, is'nt it?

Whereas, people know what to expect from the fifth installment of a racing game.

"Frist off, we would have to assume M$ knows the review score from all of these web sites."

Do you honestly not think they have had any feedback to give them an idea of how the game will go down with reviewers?

Whats your theory as to reasons of the embargo?

DiRtY4576d ago

GTA V, Last of Us, Beyond, Forza and Ryse ---> all have embargos.

Blaze9294576d ago

it's normal for embargoes not to release until the day the game releases now. Why are people digging into this too deep?

Drekken4576d ago

Feel the hype by not being allowed to talk about our game!! Yeah... that makes sense.

Hype is glowing previews and great reviews. So far the previews have not been too good.

2cents4576d ago

Probably because this is THE flagship action game for the Xbox One and we all know how people cant be happy for others. So Im 100% sure that there are many bias reviewers from lame gaming site just waiting to shred Ryse and Vise Versa.

It does make me wonder a little though as we have seen this in the past with god-awful games being shipped before people have even had a chance to review them.

Personally, Ryse is a day one for me. I really enjoyed the methodic approach to fighting, the visuals are stunning and the source material is compelling. Although I only got to play one round of the multiplayer (for over an hour) I was completley sucked in to the atmosphere, I have the benefit of having a very active imagination, so I was that gladiator in that areana and I want more!

Review scores be damned for this one.

Anon19744576d ago (Edited 4576d ago )

I wouldn't think anything of this if it wasn't for the negative things we've been hearing prior to the launch. Didn't one site comment on the Ryse demo that combat was bout as much fun as dialing phone numbers? I mean, how can that type of thing not make you feel a little apprehensive for this game. There have been other rumors floating around Twitter that the Ryse campaign can be finished in and hour and a half. And knowing that this started as a 360 Kinect game, and then dropped Kinect doesn't really instill a lot of confidence either. Crytek isn't exactly known for their fantastic gameplay.

Phils_Libra4575d ago

Yep, was GameInformer whom related the gameplay to dialing phone numbers in their preview. Google "ryse son of rome gameinformer" and see/read. Will be very interesting to see the final reviews later this week.

Godmars2904575d ago

Then again, what else haven't they shown? How often have they shown off the game yet now are holding off on actual reviews?

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ElementX4576d ago (Edited 4576d ago )

MS is staggering the embargoes and I actually prefer it. Who wants to go online and see 100s of reviews all in one day? I'd rather have something to look forward to every few days than get all of the reviews at once.

aviator1894576d ago

I can see that.
Honestly, when I see a bunch of reviews for different games in one day, I normally just read one and tend to skim over the other ones because of work and school.
I dig how they're staggered out like this, definitely gives me solid time to go over each.

AnthonyJrWTF4576d ago

This is the reason. It's a steady pace of reviews and news that keeps them in the highlights every day up until launch. They saved the two graphical workhorses for last.

cyguration4575d ago

What about for people who don't care about ALL of the Xbox One's launch games?

What about people who were only eying Ryse but wanted to wait for the reviews before making the plunge? Now, for day-one, they may have to go with something else to buy with their Xbox One.

Early reviews helps people make better decisions.

Neonridr4576d ago

If Aliens: Colonial Marines is anything to go by in recent memory...

But just because we haven't heard anything yet doesn't automatically make it a bad thing. We will find out soon enough I guess.

Zack_attack4576d ago

I heard they planned on staggering their reviews over the few days before release, rather than all in one day. Another review will be out today.

jackanderson19854576d ago

according to IGN the embargo for the hardware itself is lifted today at 9pm ET (could be PT, irish myself so i'm on GMT and won't see either till tomorrow morning) and an editor at eurogamer mentioned in the comments the reason for the delay on Ryse and Forza was down to the copies being delivered later than the rest and as such embargos got extended

Zack_attack4576d ago

I'm assuming they delivered them a few days later to stagger the reviews like I said. If you gave people every game at once, I have a feel it would be prematurely reviewed after only an hour of gameplay on each title.

Ashby_JC4575d ago

Timing is everything.

Staggering information makes sense. This past few days there has been fresh info regarding games etc about the XBOX ONE.

Build up until launch.

ITS WORKING!! (for me at least...first launch console!!)

Convas4576d ago

You could also look at this as MS giving reviewers to actually playthrough the game at a comfortable pace.

Just spitballin'.

speedforce1314576d ago

no, they've already played through the game, they're just waiting to publish the review.

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Leeroyw1135d ago (Edited 1135d ago )

There's fifteen ancient Rome games?

LG_Fox_Brazil1135d ago

Shadow of Rome was so freaking good

Sashamaz1134d ago

I'm still waiting for the sequel.

HyperMoused1134d ago

Ryse was awesome, i have no idea why it wasnt recieved well and why we havnt seen another, Rome conquered so much, you could take the action anywhere, and it looked great when xbox one came out, now would be even better.

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AngainorG7X1389d ago

It was a great game, it had issues but it can only go up from here.

crazyCoconuts1389d ago

It was just ok. Looked really good for an Xbox game though

Snookies121389d ago

"for an Xbox game"

Way to subtly throw shade there. It looked amazing compared to any game at the time it was released.

Never played it myself though, wasn't really interested in it personally. Plus it came at a time when I didn't own an Xbox console. But it was at least different than the usual copy/paste games we get. So I hope it gets another chance sometime soon.

Crows901389d ago

It was a crytek game though

1nsomniac1389d ago (Edited 1389d ago )

It was a stunning game on all basis. One of the standout games for Xbox as a whole. I ended up buying on pc as well… and yes nothing looked better than it in PC at the time either. Nothing just ok about it, definitely needs a sequel.

fr0sty1389d ago

@snookies12, don't pretend like the Xbox One didn't struggle with being gimpled by its tiny pool of ESRAM as a frame buffer. It was significantly weaker than the PS4.

crazyCoconuts1389d ago

Metacritic 60, user score 6.4. I'm not alone in putting it into the "ok" category...

VenomCarnage891389d ago

@snookies
Haven't played it but at least you know enough to defend Xbox over it. The game did look good, for an Xbox game. That's not some "subtle shade," it's full on reality.
I remember it being nearly the only graphically decent game on the Xbone for like the first two years after launch, and graphics were that games strength

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CrimsonWing691389d ago

I really enjoyed it. Bought it at launch even.

ManMarmalade1389d ago (Edited 1389d ago )

The qte's were disappointing though. God of war was doing it back in the ps2 days. As gorgeous as the game was, the gameplay needed to be updated.

annoyedgamer1389d ago

I really liked the original Ryse but Crytek doesn't have the funds. The mismanaged their properties and let EA raid them with Crysis for the duration of their relationship. Right now they are working on Crysis 4, I doubt they can spare resources to work on a Ryse sequel.

gamer78041389d ago

It would have to be funded by MS, I really liked Ryse sure it got repetitive but the setting visuals and story were good

moriarty18891389d ago

MS should have funded a sequel to Ryse and Sunset OD. Two good franchises they definitely needed last gen.

annoyedgamer1389d ago

MS is too busy trying to become the next EA, Ryse wont be on their list of titles to finance unless it gets a hipster makeover with lootboxes.

darthv721389d ago (Edited 1389d ago )

I recently bought it for the steamdeck and have to say... 60fps is a game changer. I really wished MS had gotten a one x patch or series boost mode option but sadly, nope. Other games that definitely deserve a second chance (esp on steamdeck/pc) are quantum break and sunset overdrive. Both deserved 60fps support on one x / series but you have to go to PC for that.

Rumor has it Crytek had plans for a Ryse 2 but due to the low turnout for XB (at the time) it was shelved. They really should give this another shot. i dont care if its multiplat on PS and XB and PC and Switch... just so long as part 2 gets made.

babadivad1389d ago

The game is automatically boosted on Series X

darthv721389d ago

sorry... but it's not. It still runs at the same fps the XBO did.

lelo2play1389d ago

Game was good enough, not great.
Graphically it was top notch. Still holds well till this day.

Crows901389d ago

It only needed more enemy variety and few more movesets or weapons to use. That would have made the experience tons better.

MadLad1389d ago

It was a good game.
Only time I saw quick time events actually make me feel engaged.

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