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Yes, Gran Turismo 6 has micro-transactions

PlayStation 3-exclusive racing game Gran Turismo 6 has micro-transactions, Sony has confirmed. It's the first game in the series to do so.

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digitalwolf4584d ago

Fine for racing fans who don't have time to race for cash.

jimbobwahey4584d ago

I think this stuff is disgraceful in Forza and I'm disappointed to see Gran Turismo go down the same route. Besides, if you buy a game, why should you have to grind through artificial barriers just to access all the content you've already paid for? How convenient that there's suddenly a quicker way if you cough up extra cash...

It's stupid, some people just want to sit down and have fun with a game, not grind away for however many hours for the privilege to access cars that you want to use.

theWB274584d ago

Um...for the last...I think 3 Forzas they've allowed you to race with ANY car on ANY track in modes other than career without purchasing cars in game.

In Forza 4 every car and track was unlocked as soon as you put the disc in. Gran Turismo doesn't allow this still...Forza does. You should look into it before complaining about a title.

TomShoe4584d ago

Ugh, what happened to pay once and play forever? This microtransaction/F2P crap is getting very frustrating.

It's like companies are trying to nickel and dime us to death. Just take my $60 up front dammit, I don't want to have to deal will all that bullcrap.

jimbobwahey4584d ago

Sorry theWB27, but Forza has microtransactions. Cold hard fact I'm afraid. You should look into it.

hay4583d ago

Now that's an anticlimax. I just hope the balance of economy isn't f*cked just to squeeze out some cashiola. I spend enough time grinding in GT if GT6 going to make even more of this, won't be that much fun.

Sick of this DLC and microtransaction bullsh*t.

indysurfn4583d ago

You actually made a point when you said: this stuff is disgraceful in Forza and I'm disappointed to see Gran Turismo go down the same route.

We the gamers (in this case Forza gamers) made it possible. When there are two dominate companies, and one starts nickel and dimming and the customers go for it. What do you think the other one will do? They will do the same are earn less money. Which puts them in a financial disadvantage.

This brings me to what Phil Harrison the president of Microsoft games division recently said. We will like the bring a lot of the xbox one 'features' that we cancelled BACK. And we will in time. This is the third time a Microsoft executive have warned us they will bring back the DRM, the 24 hour check in, the FEE to sell your games, and restriction on who you can sell it to, and a limit of 10 times you can lend your game, plus the threat that at the end of this generation once turn off the servers your xbone will not work because there is no supported servers to check into. Which means Microsoft controls when you upgrade to the next gen after this one!

If xbox360 players go for xbone one, we can say good bye to ownership rights. Starting at video games ending at tablets, laptops, pc,s cell phones, smart tvs, anything that can be sold with electronics in it. We have just sold out. Just like forza players sold out to microtransactions. Just like Esau sold out his birthrights for a bowl of soup in the bible.

Enjoy that bowl of soup, because your children will not.

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pompombrum4584d ago

Not fine, not fine at all. It's a cash grab by Sony and it's this sort of thing that's destroying gaming. How long will it be before developers purposely make games a certain way to encourage us to buy this sort of thing?

hay4583d ago (Edited 4583d ago )

Seriously, I spend more than a hundred hours into GTA Online and it's already designed that way, poorly, but in that manner. Hence I'm pretty paranoid here with GT6, obviously. Might go the same way and that's really bad news because with market saturation with crap or overpriced nonsense(including content slashing for DLC and micro) we're gonna have 1983 all over again within 8 years. Nasty.

thricetold4583d ago

Sadly this practice has already begun with gta5 being the most recent example. The mp is clearly designed to take forever to earn cash to force players into spending real cash. If you look at games with MT and games without MT you can easily see games without MT are more balanced.
Just hope the sony fanboys don't look the other way like the MS fanboys always do, but asking fanboys to use logic seems completely pointless.

Gazondaily4584d ago

It's not that big an issue if you can earn credits by playing the game though is it? I mean, yeah from a competitive standpoint, it strikes at the heart of it when you're racing a guy who has bought his cars when you worked hard to unlock them but other than that, I don't see it being an issue.

It just offers player choice to an extent. Now if certain cars were locked behind the micro-transactions, then I think we would really have cause for concern.

pompombrum4584d ago (Edited 4584d ago )

What about when developers start to design their games around these micro-transactions where they are actively encouraging people spend extra cash?

Fifa Ultimate Team is a great example of this.. while somehow people get by, making enough coins to buy packs takes ages unless you're winning every tournament you enter.

Gazondaily4584d ago

@aiBreeze

Actually, that's a very good point. I didn't think about that. Yeah, it could set up a dangerous precedent in the future. We already saw Capcom do it with RE5 with content on the disc actually locked off (that still grinds my gears).

Volkama4584d ago

It is that big of a deal to me. Consumables/Currency/Progress microtransactions are a plague that needs to be cured ASAP.

Racing is obviously the core of a racing game, but the currency and unlocks form the metagame that keeps you going. With progression microtransactions in place that core gameplay really feels like the chore keeping you away from the reward you could just buy now for instant gratification.

I wish this kind of greed faced the same kind of backlash MS' DRM got, the kind of backlash that makes publishers think twice.

Masterchief_KOK4584d ago

is no fun if everybody gets fast cars work hard paid off

SolidStoner4584d ago

its about racing them... only because you got fast car dosnt mean you will win with it!!

MidnytRain4583d ago

TVensky

You must not have played GT5 online much...

PS3Freak4584d ago (Edited 4584d ago )

Apologies... I thought you meant you would pass on the game because it included microtransactions.

My bad.

There's no way I'd touch microtransactions, especially for my favourite franchise of all-time.

kratos_TheGoat4584d ago

playing a lot of hours make gt so much better, now is making noobs buy fast cars/ powerful cars without earning it by having micro-transaction is what killing gaming. dead space 3 got bash by doing this stupid shit. that was my reason I didn't buy the game.

itisallaboutps4583d ago

I remember being the first to unlock a veyronvand then I joined and online match and people couldn't even make out what car I had because I was moving so fast. O well bye bye to that feeling

Malice-Flare4584d ago

wish i can just transfer the 10 trillion credits i have in GT4...

Salooh4584d ago

You sound like my brother (if it's serious). He expected GTAV single player money to transfer to the mp . I told him if they allowed that then what's the use of jobs ?. People will play it a lot less because they will have everything they want from the start..

Zichu4584d ago

Rockstar do this, everyone has a fit over it.

Sony do it, it's fine and dandy.

smh

Detoxx4584d ago

You read my mind.

First comment said enough. "Fine for racing fans who don't have time to race for cash."

If this was an EA game, it would have been bashed to the ground. But it's Sony, so it's all of the sudden okay now.

SirBradders4584d ago

It's becoming the norm now and the only way to stop it is to speak with our wallets. Unfortunatly alot of people don't have time to grind so paying can save them time. I myself have only done it once ever and that was in bf3, only because i simply loved the game.

AJ Hartley4584d ago

It may be a sony owned studio but its PD who are the obes deciding to go with micro transactions.

Death4584d ago

Polyphony Digital is one of the only development houses Sony didn't buy. They are Sony.

kneon4584d ago

I don't care if it's there, but I won't use it.

GT is most fun at the beginning when you only have crappy cars and no money for upgrades. In gt5 I have over 1200 cars and make money faster than I can spend it and that makes it far less interesting.

Zichu4584d ago

I wouldn't use it either, I enjoy starting a game, especially a racing game, with a crappy banged up car and building my way to the top.

Hell, I still go back to Midnight Club: LA every once in a while and razz around in my MK1 Golf.

I just feel people are not interested in the experience and just want to get to the end of the game and move on. I don't want to do that, I just spent £40 on something and I like to make it last. I'm not going to spend another £10 or £20 on something in-game to help me get to the end a few hours earlier than someone who hasn't paid extra.

SniperControl4584d ago

I am a massive GT fan, micro transactions in any form whatsoever are wrong.

I would say the majority of GT fans will never use MT to gain the upperhand, there is nothing like the feeling that you have earnt the cars you own.

As for the top comment

"Fine for racing fans who don't have time to race for cash"

You should bot be playing GT in that case, maybe Asphalt on IOS or Android is more to your liking??

-Foxtrot4584d ago (Edited 4584d ago )

Your joking right....i think Rockstar got away with it to be honest....because no one complained enough, because it was Rockstar.

Sony shouldnt of done this, well the dev shouldn't of but Sony will get more hate for this then Rockstar

jessupj4584d ago (Edited 4584d ago )

I'm counting 4-5 people in this thread that's ok with it and you instantly come to the conclusion everyone's giving sony a free pass. smh indeed.

Seems like you're just assuming sony fans have no standards and will blindly defend anything they do.

I'm an avid Sony fan and this is very disappointing. I sincerely hope is doesn't affect the gameplay like it did in GTAV.

Cuzzo634584d ago

I think he was being sarcastic for the first comment... kill all this fanboy ranting and complaining @ Zichu and @Detoxx. Ur fannie side just cant take a rest. Most of the comments clearly have a problem with microtrans. Leave it up to you fannie girls to make it so fannie'ish

ABizzel14583d ago

@Zichu

Check the comments again. The fanboys were here first, the real gamers are here now, and we are unbias.

I've complained about this slippery slope on both sides, and it's something that needs to be watched carefully, because the next step is the Killer Instinct route where the game is free to download, but you have to pay to unlock all the content.

If you're going to go that route then you need to make sure there is plenty of content where gamers can still have a fun experience if they don't want to pay (not 1 character in the case of KI), you should be able to unlock everything for free without excessive grinding (unlike the free Tekken on PS3).

Micro-transactions don't belong in a $60 PERIOD, and should not be used by any company if they don't know how to balance them.

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OrangePowerz4584d ago

Hope they didn't artificially make it more grindy to get money.

If its just so casuals can get good cars that's fine.

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Comparing the New Grand Valley in Gran Turismo 7 to the Original

A detailed look at Gran Turismo 7's new track Grand Valley, judging its evolution from its former design and layout in Gran Turismo 6, side by side.

SullysCigar1202d ago (Edited 1202d ago )

Wow, crazy isn't it? The draw distance is vastly improved, the background textures too and there's ZERO shimmer now. And the replays are night and day!

EIDT: @below, Haha I didn't notice that!

IRetrouk1202d ago

Yeah, theres a massive improvment all round, Looks amazing with the time of day transitions too, me and a couple online buddies jumped on earlier to try it out lol, did you notice the beach full of seals?

closed_account1202d ago

That coastline looks amazing and I can only imagine it in VR! Looks like an entirely new course as far as scenery goes.

IRetrouk1202d ago

Yeah, those views are going to be crazy when we are "there" can't wait!

PureBlood1202d ago

Just got confirmation my PSVR2 is shipping by 24 hour courier, so I should have it tomorrow! I know nobody else cares, but I had to tell someone lol

GT7 will be my first game, as I want to test out my wheel - so excited - it's going to be awesome!

Deathdeliverer1202d ago

I got my confirmation and date (22nd) showing for the charging station. The headset itself has been in “shipped-processing” status since last Friday. I’m like dang can I see the date? I was in the first round of preorders. Whenever it does get here, I’m ready. Going to go update everything and try to get over this cold.

PureBlood1202d ago

Wish you better, bud, fingers crossed for your order too.

@S2Killinit - Thank you!

IRetrouk1202d ago

I care👊🏻, mine is still saying prep for shipping😔

PureBlood1202d ago

Thanks man 👊

Word of advice: be ready for the impromptu jig that happens when that email drops, it can be embarrassing..

DaReapa1202d ago

Just got my second shipping confirmation email as well.

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S2Killinit1202d ago

Man i caant wait. One day left!

Flawlessmic1202d ago

I know you and a lot of people are excited for VR but dont sleep on sophy, sophy is the real game changer here!

After giving sophy a run last night, i can safely say the actual racing in future GT's is going to be Fu***** amazing!!!

even on intermediate on some tracks the AI was coming back at me on my waiting for me to slip, attacking the space if i left the door open for them, honestly felt like i was racing against people and not some very limited AI that once i passed them they may as well have been eliminated from the race like GT ai normally is.

pump it up to expert and its a real challenge to stay ahead, the next level up from expert man the AI kicked my ass, like badly.

i remember when sophy was first annouced all the nay sayers said its a pipe dream and we will never see it implemented and here we are a yr later and sophy is being tested in game for us to try out and is every good as whats been promised.

VR plus racing against sophy and wowww your not gonna feal like your actually racing for real anywhere else outside of gt.

sophy will change the game in gt8

S2Killinit1202d ago

Hm I didnt realize it was like that. I didnt even know why there was so much hype about it. But thanknyou for explaining that. I mean I get it now.

But I’ll be seeing it in action tomorrow! Woot woot.

Flawlessmic1202d ago

It's only for a limited time and only has 4 races but I encourage you and everyone else try it and see the difference compared to the normal Ai.

Sophy has slipped completely under the radar in this latest uodate

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Father__Merrin1202d ago

Wow gt6 was awesome under appreciated because of time it came out

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What Happened To Gran Turismo?

When thinking about simulation racing games in this console generation, it’s not unreasonable for your first thought to be “Forza”. Microsoft’s first-party sim-racer series has been wildly successful, and for many of us, it’s been the go-to franchise for quite some time. But simulation racing games weren’t always synonymous with Forza; there was a time when Polyphony Digital’s hardcore series, Gran Turismo, reigned supreme. While the long-time franchise continues to sell exceptionally well, there’s no doubt that it isn’t the young, spry series it used to be.

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darthv722480d ago

It doesnt suck but I would love to see a return to form with GT7. Sport is such a departure that it can turn some people off. It has gotten better over time but it's still no match for a proper GT7.

Rude-ro2480d ago

Sport is awesome for what it is...
However, polygon built a whole new engine and the tech is still being worked on...
I understand it is easy to praise a cookie cutter because it release the same game over and over with rotations of maps and cars...
But this engine polygon has designed does more for things other than gaming.

Repetitive old engines with new makeup does not make anyone king.

Gt7 will be most likely in two years with 120fps and ray tracing because their new engines are ready now.

LordStig2480d ago

It decided to focus on racing rather than cars and in the gaming world, racing = gameplay.

Imalwaysright2480d ago

What complete and utter BS. GT has always focused on racing and gameplay.

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neutralgamer19922480d ago

Good I guess selling millions of copies and have OFFICIAL FIA license races and Esports means it sucks

We just don't get it every year which is why ms also delayed next forza. You can't keep making yearly sequels. Quality and innovation takes time

GT sports at launch to now it's a different game and support has been free

Imalwaysright2480d ago

GT games have always sold millions of copies and what's so innovative about GT sport? It's a racing game FFS.

IRetrouk2479d ago

The online championships and tournaments alone offer more innovation than any racer this gen🤷‍♂️ then you also get the live ones in New York etc with proper race like commentary, something else no other sim has done before. It sells millions because it's the best, simple really.

Imalwaysright2479d ago (Edited 2479d ago )

IRetrouk

I'm not even sure why think that having proper like race commentary or championships and tournements is innovative but I'll play along... GT Sport was released in 2017 so how do explain that this video https://www.youtube.com/wat... from 2016 exists?

Dark_Knightmare22479d ago

Spoken like someone who hasn’t played sport

Imortus_san2479d ago

And those Paid demos, that fans try to hide and not talk about it.

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SCW19822480d ago

It became the best online racing community for console players and its an amazing achievment.

Keltech2480d ago

"Forza?" HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!! good joke!

kayoss2480d ago

Too early for an Aprils fool joke.

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ElementX2480d ago

@solidgamerX That's really not very impressive. Somebody with an interest in cars plays racing games and becomes a race car driver. That's like saying "look at this guy, he played COD and now he's in the military"

Imalwaysright2480d ago

SolidGamerX

You must think that we're all stupid enough to believe that a game will turn anyone into a professional racing driver.

Prince-Ali2480d ago

FORZA!!! AAHAHHAHA !! Haven't i schooled you on this already before! You're still spewing nonsense on this threaddd looool

mcstorm2480d ago

Forza has always been better online than. GT and still is. Great to see PD try something different with GTS but let's face it this gen sonys racing games have been poor this then compaired to what Microsoft has had to offer. Forza 7 is one of the best racing games on xbox and pc but for me Horizon 3 and 4 have set the bar this gen. Of all the things microsoft got wrong this gen 2 of its racing games got a lot right and others are now playing catchup.

DarXyde2480d ago

It's debatable which is the better game. To me, Forza has the upper hand.

But in terms of online community and events? Ha. Don't lie to yourself just because you don't like Playstation.

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Dark_Knightmare22479d ago

Lol not even close have you even played gt sport online?

Imalwaysright2479d ago (Edited 2479d ago )

SolidGamerX

You didn't need to confirm what I already knew: if you didn't think that we're all stupid you wouldn't make such stupid comments that only those that are dead from the neck up will agree with.

IRetrouk2479d ago (Edited 2479d ago )

Did he say gt could turn anyone into a racer? No he didnt, he asked what game has done it like gt has, which is true, gt academy done it throughout gt5 for a start. You need to do some research fella, cause your wrong.. again.

And lmao at element and the downplay, not even similar you crazy man, not even similar🤣 you realise gt has turned gamers into drivers from gt5? Go look at gt academy and tell me how that would be anything like someone playing cod and then joining the army, the downplay in gt articles is funny.

ElementX2479d ago

So you think he learned the required skills playing video games? I remember when people claimed children were learning how to operate guns because of video games, do you think that's also true?

IRetrouk2479d ago (Edited 2479d ago )

Two completely different things and you know it, it is a fact that gt has helped real gamers become real race drivers, the proof is easily available online and I'm not going round searching for links that has been posted many, many times before on this subject, Go and look at gt academy like I mentioned and you can see for yourself, they start out on gt and go from there, so yes the game gran turismo teaches you some driving techniques, now if you can find me a link where someone has been playing cod and went on to become a war hero, please let me know because I couldnt find anything, also do you have a link to where cod has a program to train soldiers? Like cod academy or something?, I couldnt find one of those either, maybe when you do then your comparison will actually make sense.

Imalwaysright2479d ago

IRetrouk

You mean the GT academy that provides training and licenses for a person to become a professional racing driver? The GT academy is how you go from being an average driving joe to become a professional racing driver not GT the game.

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xRacer74x2480d ago

Forza owns the racing game scene in my area as far as video games go.

dekke2480d ago

Forza = Arcade
GT= Sim

why u ppl keep comparing those 2 games every time..

Keltech2480d ago (Edited 2480d ago )

GT owns the console sim racing scene in my area and around the world. Just ask a real race car drivers

https://youtu.be/2pC3-eCAdv...

LordStig2480d ago

Forza isn't a racing game. It's a car game.

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Hungryalpaca2480d ago

I’ll stick to sims. You keep playing with your hot wheels.

King_Noctis2480d ago

You forget that there are two Forzas, Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, which aims at different audiences.

King Nezz2480d ago

The usual response from someone insecure that feels their favorite racing game is nowhere near as good as it once was. I really liked Gran and played them all. Loved the Vector from part 2. But the franchise is not the same.

Gaming4Life19812480d ago

Yea Forza took over and is now the best sim racer with motorsport and the best arcade racer with horizon. GT was the best but it has been falling short for a long time and I'm not saying gt games are bad but no where near king like it used to be. I'd say forza motorsport 3 was the forza that really upped the franchise and forza 4 was when forza became #1.

I remember the glory days of gt but those days are long gone but it's still a good game just not the best. Of course ps fans will never admit it because they will die before giving MS credit.

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Nacho_Z2480d ago

I do think they need some new creative heads in to give them some new perspectives, they seem stuck in a rut. It's a very high quality rut but they're still stuck in it.

LordStig2480d ago

The USA leg of the Gran Turismo World Tour is going on in New York right now. Go watch it guys, there's some damn good racing and crazy updates to come.

Nacho_Z2480d ago

I've seen some of it before and to be fair it's not much different to watching real motorsport so credit to them for that.

Heavenly King2480d ago

the MACH 5 :) GO SPEED rACEr!!

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Gran Turismo 5, Gran Turismo 6, Wipeout HD, God of War 3 and more running on PC via the latest RPCS3

DSOGaming writes: "It appears that the best Playstation 3 emulator that is currently under development, RPCS3, received a new update recently. kd-11 has implemented new Surface Cache fixes to RPCS3 that reportedly improve the appearance of car reflections in Gran Turismo 6, and fix various graphics glitches in other games."

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gangsta_red2517d ago

If someone out there in internet land could make a decent PS3 emulator imagine what Sony could actually do if they put the time and effort in to make this happen for their next console?

It's definitely not impossible as we can see here. It should definitely be done since BC seems to be very important to Sony this next gen. Imagine PS+ free game offerings from Sony that could include the whole catalog from the PS console family..fantastic.

Silly gameAr2517d ago

Why waste time and money on it? Some people want to move forward, not go back.

Eonjay2517d ago

It's not a deal breaker but having the feature would be amazing. I would rather have it than not have it.

gangsta_red2517d ago

Not everyone feels that way and if Sony is making an issue of supporting PS4 games for PS5 why not support their other past games for people who still have them or a means to buy them and play them.

KwietStorm_BLM2517d ago

You literally just said some people. So I'd imagine you can comprehend that there's a larger subset of people not in that same "some" group. PlayStation used to be known for backward compatibility. Xbox made a big deal about support for their entire catalog. What's the issue with PlayStation, who has an even more substantial history in gaming, tapping into that market? We don't have this problem on PC. It's only a good thing for consumers to be able to bring their games with them through generations on console.

Silly gameAr2517d ago (Edited 2517d ago )

@kwietstorm

Yes, I said some people. What I said was MY opinion. I'm one of those people that couldn't care less about bc, but im not saying ALL people don't care about it. I think they should spend that time and energy for future features and games, but like I said, that's only my opinion.

Imortus_san2516d ago (Edited 2516d ago )

Not every body trows their games way every time the new gen cames along, and everybody that likes games like to be able to play their favorite games in the best possible way.

PS: Retrocompatability is the most requested feature in Sony Foruns, even Sony said so.

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frostypants2517d ago (Edited 2517d ago )

The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile? Are the number of additional consoles PS3 BC would push be enough to justify the cost of developing the emulation (and it would have to be bullet proof)? I like the idea of having it, but for my part not having it won't effect my purchase decision.

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Eonjay2517d ago

You are asking the right question but the wrong way. For me, the addition of PS3 BC would add value as a customer and make it even more likely for me to buy a PS5. If it is valuable to the customer it is valuable to them.

Also, the way they are doing it would be way cheaper than a program like Microsoft had. The are emulating the hardware. Not the software.

gangsta_red2517d ago

"The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile?"

Sony could definitely make some extra profit selling PS3 games through their marketplace (the same way they have their other classics available). It's not about whether or not it will effect anyone's purchase decision, it definitely didn't do so for the PS4. But as others have expressed, it would be a nice addition to have for PS5 if Sony could open up their whole library digitally and physically to users.

ShadowWolf7122517d ago

Racing games should be some of the easiest to emulate and they're still not hitting 60fps with it, to say nothing of image flickering and occasional sound issues.

Still gonna be a bit yet before they have it fully up and running, it seems, and even then it may only work for part of the library. :/

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Gwiz2517d ago

Is it possible to have PS3 emulation on PS5?yes depending on what kind of power it really has.
An i7 9700k is no slouch and the PS4 already has a God of War 3 running much better with less
power required because they converted CBE to X86 which is not something you want to be doing in the long run.

What power would be required to play these games emulated at said PS4 version?.
It's not an easy situation Sony themselves created and ultimately I believe they are happy this way because they
want you to use PSNow,that service is why you will not even get it. (let's not forget that it was a huge investment)

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