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Console Failure Rates – Should We Really Panic?

Codec Moments looks into the engineering side of console reliability, the historical failures from the PS3 and Xbox 360 generation, and examines whether we should really be worried about the failures reported on the PS4 so far.

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Utalkin2me4565d ago

My main concern is the he lumped "Historical Failures" from PS3 and 360. Only one historical failure in that sentence.

Parapraxis4565d ago (Edited 4565d ago )

Historical Failures, just means from the past. Nothing to do with the actual amount. All previous gen consoles would have "historical" failure rates. You are seeing hyperbole where there is none.

Had they said "historically high", that would be a different story.

mikeslemonade4565d ago

One year warranty out of the box and to extend it to a total of 4 years you just need to pay $49.99. Not necessary to opt to $59.99 unless you travel with it.

Parapraxis4565d ago

Some people need to go back to grade school.

Utalkin2me4565d ago

@Parapraxis

Maybe you do not understand the meaning of "Historical Failure", Try googling it then come back to comment.

Parapraxis4565d ago (Edited 4565d ago )

Sorry kiddo, you are wrong, in this case "historical" means past. Not the other meaning where "historical" would mean it's famous position in history, or landmark occurrence.

Ie:

Wii made an historical impact with it's introduction of the wiimote.
VS
Wii was historically, the 7th generation console from Nintendo.

https://www.google.ca/searc...

https://www.google.ca/searc...

But I will say your understanding of the English language IS a historical failure. (along with quite a few of the readers here)

Words can have multiple meanings, and in the case of the article where they are looking at data, facts and figures, they are looking at the historical data from last gen.

Thehyph4565d ago

Oh, dear.

Have we succumbed to semantic policing?

SolidStoner4565d ago

I think.. most of these faults could easily be fake.. made by MS or fanboys.. all that will happen when xbox one comes out... only time will tell whats really going on... now bad and good news pop up everywhere randomly... and whats real and whats fake.. cant really tell.. power of the internet.. everything about everything from everybody!

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Derekvinyard134565d ago

YES! would you guys buy a car if it had a high percentage failure rate? If anything has a failure rate , that is a bad thing.

Ezz20134565d ago (Edited 4565d ago )

"" If anything has a failure rate , that is a bad thing. ""

so what you saying is that you never bought any Electronic Device in your entire life ?! because every single device ever made have failure rate

also 2000 or even 5000 bricked console out of 1,000,000+ console
is pretty damn low rate
i think it's even less than 1%

colonel1794565d ago (Edited 4565d ago )

"if it had a high percentage failure rate?"

Do you have a source stating the PS4 has a high failure rate?

This is just an overreaction just because the PS4 is the new stuff. If it was the Xbox One, the headlines would be: "Red Ring of Death all over again, MS is doomed"!

People need to have a little of common sense!

Edit: Also, do you even realize how many iPhones and iPads are defective when they release? It's just that the gaming media is so lame, that like to overreact and exaggerate about everything, just for hits.

static52454565d ago (Edited 4565d ago )

Actually Cars fail quite often. Even straight off the lot. Just like in Fight Club, someone goes out and they figure out to see if the failure is worth the companies attention.

And honestly if you knew the acceptable failure rate of cars, by your logic, you should be pretty scared every time you hop in a car.

Happy Driving

EDIT: just to give you a idea these are failure rates from 2007. Using 20,000 new cars of each company were tested

Ford Focus 18%
Mini Coop 20%
VW Golf 19.2%

Just a example

Ausbo4565d ago

no. Playstation is less than .4% and microsofts will be low too. (assuming they learned from RROD).

New electronics are never perfect. They have a warranty, so don't fret.

Thatguy-3104565d ago

As long as my console isn't malfunctioning I'm fine. I bought one for me and one for my brother and both work. I feel bad for those that got the short end of the stick but I'm doing great playing Battlefield 4 and Killzone ;)

for we are many4565d ago

High failure rate is a cause of panic, be it in a console, electronics, cars, plumbing etc. What we are seeing with the ps4 launch and all the reports, videos and bad hardware reviews from verified buyers on Amazon is alarming to say the least, not only failures out of the box but also loud noises as well as the loudest fan and disk sound ever in a home console, slow interface and system overheating in as low as 2 hours of playing time is unheard of in a console, and in the face of all that you have the big corporate VG "media" websites like IGN along with blind fanboys executing what looks like The BIGGEST ORGANIZED DAMAGE CONTROL OPERATION in the history of this infantile business, instead of admitting that the system was rushed and that sony seemed to use low quality manufacturing process to reduce the cost as they often do and that they need to act to alleviate this problem, they are trying to find excuses; it may be relatively easy to damage control bad reviews of the hyped launch titles and to dismiss them as opinions which I find fine, you should enjoy whatever you like even if the scores are low, it doesn't matter at least to me, But to come and try damage controlling Hardware failures!! that's too much of either being a money fueled corporate shell or a blind Fanboy. Imagine if it was M$ or Nintendo, then you will begin to understand the primitive mentality of most people involved with videogames on a manufacturer, media and consumer level.

static52454565d ago

Most Consoles had failure.
NES faulty spring.
Xbox Disc read error
PS2 Faulty lens
360 RRoD
PS3 YLoD
WII U It was actually Nintendo who unintentionally bricked quite a few consoles

for we are many4565d ago

1-Not as major as we have here.
2-other "failures" were admitted by everyone including manufacturer and solutions were swift.
3-This time it's Damage-Controlled to epic proportion by the media, manufacturer and blind fanboys, I doubt if someone pays 400$ ends up with malfunctioning console is happy to damage control unless he's a blind fanboy.
4-Look all over the internet and see the schism between disappointed purchasers with failing ps4s and corporate media and fanboys trying to damage control these major problems, while ridiculing MS mostly and to lesser extent try to downplay Nintendo's well known hardware reliability standards.

JasonKCK4565d ago

The only people who should have a problem are those affected. I say no need for panic, I'm sure Sony will get those peoples PS4 fixed. Honestly I have had had more problems with some of the hardware on my PC than I ever had with consoles. Do people have a right to get angry or be annoyed? sure they do after all they just dropped hundreds on something that doesn't work.

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MRMagoo1234565d ago

best part of the article is this "To conclude this article, the only thing I can say is things aren’t looking disastrous for the PS4 yet, and the perceived high level of failures looks to be normal at this stage, and is probably exacerbated by the level of media connection we have now versus 7 years ago. It’s so easy for us to Tweet, Facebook and Blog all our bad news, and by nature it’s the thing we all latch on to when we read it. We’ve got an Xbox One launch in 6 days and there will be console failures there too. These will make the headlines alongside the PS4 numbers, and most likely set off a fanboy argument over who’s the most/least reliable" imo, the xbone fanboys really need to lay off the failure rate(which is below normal acceptable amounts) because it will be the same exact thing on the xbone day one and because the fanboys made such a big thing out of this, the xbone launch will be even more under the microscope to point out every single problem encountered.

Sci0n4565d ago (Edited 4565d ago )

yea and just like how the X1 fans trolled the PS4's 0.4% failure rate I know the sony fans are waiting to pounce back at them. It is actually pretty pathetic for both parties to antagonize each other over hardware failure. I do find it ironic as hell that out of all people xbox fans have the nerve to troll other fans about console failures when the early adopters experienced it first hand on the 360. I was a early 360 adopter and I was in the microsoft customer service threads reading all the fans cry there hearts out over there 360 consoles repeatedly failing. It was quite a disaster. I hope for nothing but the best regarding the X1's launch regarding console durability.

Majin-vegeta4565d ago

Hate to admit it.But I will be one of them.

Sci0n4565d ago

im going to let go of the revenge factor vegeta. This PS4 console is too great for me to stoop to such a low level of antagonizing X1 fans back over console failures. Let them be bitter by themselves.

Thehyph4565d ago

Amen, brother.

Anyone who wishes ill will to the extent of a hardware failure on another is no gamer. I feel for the few out there who've had problems. When I got my ps4 Friday night, I was almost losing my poop because the PSN wouldn't work. Took a breather, (cigarette) waited a while, and then everything fell into place. Smooth sailing since.

GrandpaSnake4565d ago

If you cant take it, dont dish it out.

neocores4565d ago

yes BECAUSE 0.04% IS SOO BAD WOW IM SOO SCARED

Ausbo4565d ago (Edited 4565d ago )

its actually .4% according to ign.

http://www.ign.com/articles...

its still a non-issue though

Ausbo4565d ago

why the disagrees. I state a fact and back it up with a source.

Wow.

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Death4565d ago

It looks like they took the amount of reported PS4's and applied them to the Taco Bell winners. Failure rate is determined during the duration of warranty, not just from defects out of the box.

OmegaShen4565d ago

No, if only if its only 0.04%. No there is no reason, now if its like the 360's fail rate that was 54%. Then its time to panic (but only the company is the one that needs to panic).

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA19d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY19d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay19d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos19d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7219d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY19d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator19d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum19d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z19d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad20d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga20d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot19d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose20d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE20d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername19d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy20d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde20d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8620d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8620d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole20d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300020d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot20d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle20d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7720d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments