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PS4 vs Xbox One vs Xbox 360 Slim Size Comparison

Check out a size comparison between PS4, Xbox One, and Xbox 360 Slim.

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black0o4579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

damn!

and no external P/B

Palaven4579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

With an internal power brick they are asking for the console to overheat. What is wrong with having the power brick behind a TV stand rather than overheating the console?

@majiebeast
Don't like the taste of your own medicine?

@majiebeast
Exactly what people have had to put up with from Sony fanboys since the console announcements?

majiebeast4579d ago

Just shut up will ya. Even with an external powerbrick 360 still overheated.

DragoonsScaleLegends4579d ago

Why would a power supply overheat the console?

majiebeast4579d ago

Nah i dont like people that post such stupid shit that it lowers everybody's IQ when they read it.

saber000054579d ago

@Palaven,

I had an xbox 360, I find the power brick absolutely annoying if your taking it to a friend's house, It's just an extra thing that is just ridiculous. Also checking in a previous overheating rumor on the PS4, several top developers said that they have been running the PS4 34/7 for several months with no overheating issues. It all has to do with the inter cooling components. There's a video that shows the complete inside of the PS4. The fans, that are inside, are designed the same way as EVGA's Graphic card draws out heat. I doubt Sony (OR Microsoft) would release a product that overheats. They both have guys do testing.

Sarcasm4579d ago

Seeing as how the PS4 barely outputs at 140W and 49C at full load, there aren't going to be any issues of overheating this generation.

Zefros4579d ago

you know that ps3 had internal too right?

0ut1awed4579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

And yet here it is with thousands of pre-launch PS4s out in the wild and as far as heating goes the only thing we have heard is "it stays cool even after hours."

As Sarcasm said above, the max TDP of the unit is only 140W. That is pretty much nothing. I have seen 800W PC PSUs in a mini atx case which was only about twice as large as the PS4.

We are dealing with a multiple billion dollar company here. Their hardware engineers made the decision to put the PSU in the physical unit. I think that holds up much more than simple speculation from some random person on the internet that has no credentials in the feild

And yes fanboys do suck but you know what even sucks more? Statements that are made against a system with no factual evidence. Hell, that's actually pretty much the definition of a fanboy.

Comnnsence4579d ago

@Palaven.......it's called **drum roll**...........Innovation.

Palaven4579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

@0ut1awed

This is just one mention of high temperatures.

"You'll hate: How dang hot the PS4 gets". http://www.gamesradar.com/p...

"Even when the PS4 is idling, without any application or game running, this system gets heated."

0ut1awed4579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

If you read, you'll see it's not really the console getting hot. It's all the hot air exiting the back of the system via the exhaust port that they were noticing. This means it's doing EXACTLY what it was designed to do. Even if there was a power brick, it would be doing the same thing since it would be in the same area for the large majority of people.

Even so, none of that is a indication of the system failing due to heating issues.

Feeling "hot" to the touch is NOT an indication of bad cooling management. Most components are considered pretty cool around 70C and under (160F). Even then, most components have a TJ Maxx ratting around 95-100C meaning they will still function fine up to that point.

The PSU has been inside every Playstation since the first. Even the PS3 launched with an integrated PSU and it was rated at 380W. With the PS4 only pulling a max of 140W, what exactly do you think the major difference is here?

Utalkin2me4579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

@Palaven

Says the guy that joined 46 days ago. Gotta to love the multiple account users.

@Palaven

You want it to blow out hot air, that means it is venting properly. When its not blowing hot air means it is not venting properly.

BarneyS4579d ago

@Palaven

Dude stop the bs about PS4 overheating. Even the FCC (an agency for approving consumer products for the american market) said that the PS4 runs at a lower temperture than PS3.
http://www.examiner.com/art...

svoulis4579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

@Palaven

Erm, never had my PS3 (launch) or Slim overheat on me...just saying

Went through 4 360's before I gave up on them.

About the powerbrick, sure you can have one sitting behind your TV for consoles, its still a technical marvel how Sony got all that into the size of the PS4.

You talk about fanboys like you aren't one.

Dem Burbbles...you have no more :( can't reply

I suppose you are just disagreeing with everyone, which is cool. but about the console pushing heat

so the way that airflow works is like this..you ready? The heat that its pushing out isn't just for the APU, its for the PSU as well, which doesnt get into contact with the APU heatsink at all :D

malokevi4579d ago

"Only when you run a game and then move to the menus does the system start to kick out some serious heat. We measured 50-degrees Celsius venting from the rear (better out than in, we say) with the casing itself heating up to 45 degrees - that's approaching launch PS3 territory. "

"Certainly, the notion of a game running simultaneously with the UI causing a surge in power consumption is very strange indeed and hopefully something that can be addressed with a firmware update. "

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Like it or not, this tiny thing cranks out some serious heat. And that's at room temperature... nevermind hotter climates.

What's worse, having a larger console with an external power supply, or having a PSU and power-hungry components crammed into a tiny space? Aesthetics, or functionality?

I'll take the external power supply, and a console that doesn't take risks in the functionality department!

ironmonkey4579d ago

So even with the powerbrick for the 360 its still overheated. You fail.

NikonSteve4579d ago

PS1, PS2,PS3,PS4, all internal power. Xbox: http://www.informationweek....

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MasterCornholio4579d ago

Yep that's why Microsoft created the Xbox One with an external power supply.

Joking

Nexus 7 2013

RGB4579d ago

It's shocking how big and ugly the Xbone is compared to PS4.

Bigger, without an internal power supply and with much worse hardware!

Nicxel4579d ago

if the console is just going to sit under/next to your tv, why worry about a brick you may never (or rarely) see?

I don't hear people complaining how laptops have power bricks...I know they're not the same thing, but a laptop is portable where as the xbox/ps4 are meant to stay in your living room (or wherever in the household). It's not like you're having to lug it around with you...

I mean if a power brick is such a HUGE inconvenience then laptops in general are a nightmare haha smh...

It just seems to be a pointless bragging right to have.

SilentGuard4578d ago (Edited 4578d ago )

True, but all things being equal, wouldn't an internal power supply for a laptop be much more convenient than an external power brick? Same with the consoles, a power brick isn't neccesaraly a bad design but it isn't as ideal as an internal supply. Internal power creates less wires and clutter and makes moving things around and placing things easier.

Nicxel4578d ago

Sure. I see what you mean. Internal would always be better than external. But at the end of the day, if the difference between the 2 doesn't handicap the performance of the system, then there is no issue. Just not worth bragging about. Unless you are placing a console so high above the ground that the brick ends up dangling in the air, then I see no issue with or without one. It's just not a selling point in my perspective.

gamer20134579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

Remember that wisecrack when you're precious PS4 malfunctions and breaks due to overheating.

BallsEye4579d ago

Well, I have a sony TV (w656) full of fake advertising (hello 200hz motionflow that is not there!) and it got a gigantic power brick...yep..first TV I ever owned that has a power brick and I couldn't care less about it. It's behind my TV table, not a problem at all.

Nicxel4578d ago

Hahaha that is pretty funny. Haven't heard of a TV with a brick before :P I'm just not tech savy I suppose.

But yes, totally agree. It just sits behind the TV stand for all of eternity.

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Ko_Uraki4579d ago

I have to admit it: Horizon is now my favourite Forza franchise. FM has lost its magic touch. I expected more graphicals innovations from FM5.

Nujabes_4579d ago

PS4 is very small, perfect for my small bedroom. And there is no power brick (Why Microsoft, why?). Sony's really good with hardware.

L0Lcano4579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

MS must be terrible at making hardware. They have the weaker console which is twice the size of the more powerful one and even have external power brick unlike ps4s which is built in. Lol

Gekko364579d ago (Edited 4579d ago )

You are right, Sony really ARE great with hardware.

It's only a pitty they are a bit poo with software and especially UI design. Having seen that video of both PS4's looks SO disjointed.

That sais, I'm not a child so don't have a games machine in my room. With a big livingroom and huge sofa my X1 will look great under my 60" LED

I didn't buy mine with paperround money or money my parents gave me for gatting A*'s on my report card - LMAO

PsylentKiller4579d ago

I'd rather game in my bedroom, where I can get privacy to game. My nephew does his homework in the living room. His friends come over and they play in the living room. My girlfriend and I share the chores but when she's vacuuming or whatever, it detracts from the gaming experience. Also, I can't exactly be playing Ryse with my 8 year old nephew around.

And, Gekko36, you didn't buy your XB1 with money you got from working? A paper route is a job. I guess you just inherited money or you used money given to you as a gift to buy your XB1.

I find it extremely rude to make fun of people with less disposable funds than you. Maybe they have a small room because they live at home, in a studio apartment, or rent a bedroom. Maybe they live in a city where all the apartments are small.

Think before you speak. The first half of your comment I agreed with but the rest was just rude.

Gekko364579d ago

Thanks for your comment, however you got the wrong end of the stick.

My point was this site is over run with children, which is true!. The comment was a swipe at over privileged children ranting. When I grew up we couldn't afford these expensive toys. If we were given presents we were greatful no matter what it was and we ALWAYS respected adults right or wrong.

Times have changed my friend, the attitudes of children and teens have changed to the critical mass we have on N4G. Using homosexual slurs as a negative is now common place on here as well as an unparralleled arrogance.

So if I DO have the occasional swipe at over privileged children / teens, at least you can understand where it comes from

PsylentKiller4579d ago

@Gekko

I guess I was a little quick to comment and didn't take the time to see where you might have been coming from.

I didn't come from a wealthy home but I did get an Atari 2600, NES, and a Commodore 64. But when I was about 8 I had saved my birthday and Christmas money as well as my allowance of $5 a week for mowing the lawn to buy myself a SNES and a few games.
You're right though. I never felt privileged nor did any of my friends. We were grateful for everything. Hell, we even played outside, climbed trees, and dug holes for fun. Many kids today are spoiled.

Gekko364578d ago

@PsylentKiller

It's nice to hear from someone who grew up with the same values and humility as I did.

I know PS4's out today and Next weekend we have X1.

However if you are a "genuine geek", drop everything on 23/11/13 because there is one thing that eclipses all new game toys.

Doctor Who's 50th - The Day Of The Doctor

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA30d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY30d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay30d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos30d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7230d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY30d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator30d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum30d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z30d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad31d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga31d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot29d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose31d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE31d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername30d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy31d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde30d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8630d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8630d ago (Edited 30d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole31d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300031d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot31d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle30d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7730d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments