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Which next-gen features matter?

Second-screen, motion controls, virtual reality; BioWare Montreal's Ian Frazier tells devs how to figure out which ones are right for them

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xHeavYx4571d ago (Edited 4571d ago )

I don't really care if my console has a YouTube app, if it helps me watch TV, if it fries eggs for me while I take a shower. I get a console for gaming, so as long as the gimmicks are a secondary thing, that's fine with me

Kingthrash3604571d ago

agreeeeeed
i want a gaming console for games..yeah features are cool but at the end of the day games are the #1 reason to buy a gaming console. all things not game related on any console should be secondary.
so all features matter but they shouldn't be the main focus of a gaming console.

guitarded774571d ago (Edited 4571d ago )

Most important feature == GAMES!!!

Everything else is secondary (but still important).

XB1_PS44571d ago

I care if there is a youtube app, I used it often on the 360. I'm upset there isn't a youtube app on either of my new consoles.

koolaid2514571d ago

I like the youtube app on the xbox 360 than I do on my phone or computer.

Computersaysno4571d ago (Edited 4571d ago )

I want a games console not a media centre. Thats what I have a PC for. I do understand that devices these days, we do want them to multitask. But even in that case, you have to get the priorities right.

As long as someone designs a games console to be a games console FIRST, its hardware designed to be as good as possible at rendering games, AND then having usable media functions added in afterwards.

GAMING should be the PRIMARY function of a GAMES console.

I didn't buy a car because it is a nice sound system with the secondary afterthought ability to turn a wheel and drive where I want to go. I bought it because its a good form of transport, if it happens to have a sound system as well then thats a bonus...

I don't want them spending a hundred million on perfecting the sound system and then cobbling the rest of the car together for a fraction of that.

voodoopickle4571d ago

in all fairness, i would use the egg frying app more than watching tv or youtube by far

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EasilyTheBest4571d ago

I really care if my console has a YouTube app, if it helps me watch TV, I don't want yet another console with just improved graphics I want a entertainment centre that does lots of things, just gaming is to 1980s, things have moved on, way on.

xHeavYx4571d ago (Edited 4571d ago )

So, do you mean that you want a phone/PC to watch Youtube and a remote controller to help you watch TV?

EDIT: @Below
Again, you can do most those things with that cellphone on your pocket. You can do the rest with a remote controller.
Yes, it's a nice novelty that you can yell at your TV, but there is nothing gamechanging about that

EasilyTheBest4571d ago (Edited 4571d ago )

Check out the X1s UI.
I can now play a game snap the game smaller and open youtube for guides to the game cheats maps etc etc.
I can now play a game while having soccer results on TV in the top corner or I can keep aware of what is happening in a snooker match.
I can now watch normal TV and if a friend comes online and wants to play me in a game they haven't got to phone me to turn my Xbox on it will come right up on the screen.
I can answer a phone call through Skype with voice without moving to grab my phone etc.
Oh and I can still play a ton of great games by the way.
Whats wrong with all that...

@below
"Apps and other stuff are not very important"
Apps seem to be very important to a lot of ppl, check out Android and Iphones.
Like I have said earlier. Things move on, theres so many places for gaming now, Tablets, Phones etc. I Want Apps and more features plus I also want games...

@fattyUK
What? Your smart TV plays Xbox One games!

@ heavy, we both know that the X1 UI is not the same as using your phone, come on be sensible...

Loki864571d ago (Edited 4571d ago )

People used to say the same thing about cell phones, then smart phones came along and now no one can live without them.

Gamers are getting older and MS realizes this, they have families and kids, society has grown up too they want everything now and in one package. Why do you think people shell out 300 dollars for a cell phone over a go phone, or get a car that has hands free features, or any other innovation that keeps adding more features to an object.

fattyuk4571d ago (Edited 4571d ago )

@easilythebeast

I can do all that on my smart tv - and it's not behind a pay wall

xHeavYx4571d ago (Edited 4571d ago )

@Easily
I would agree with your apps talk if console power hadn't been sacrificed in order to try to be everything else. By the way, the PS4 can do many of those app stuff you talk about, while being more powerful and cheaper

Utalkin2me4571d ago

@EasilyTheBest

What you just described i have been doing this for the last 5 years.I have a 3 montior setup at my PC desk, where my PS3 sits and a DVR box. I can have TV on one, computer on other for "guides" and PS3 on other. All the while having fullscreen for each one.

EasilyTheBest4571d ago (Edited 4571d ago )

@youtalking
"What you just described i have been doing this for the last 5 years.I have a 3 montior setup at my PC desk, where my PS3 sits and a DVR box. I can have TV on one, computer on other for "guides" and PS3 on other. All the while having fullscreen for each one"

As you seem to like that set up its good then that the X1 can do it, all in a more practical way and with the addition of voice and gesture commands.

@heavy
"I would agree with your apps talk if console power hadn't been sacrificed in order to try to be everything else"
Whatever console came out no matter what the power if it did all the other stuff tv voice Kinect etc you could still say that console is losing some of its power doing that extra features stuff so its an unwinnable situation.

PS4 cant do half of the X1 UI, it hasnt got Kinect as standard for a start and theres NO HDMI input so all the features now and to come to do with that the PS4 will never be able to do.

xHeavYx4571d ago (Edited 4571d ago )

You can keep the apps, I'll keep the power.

@Death
The PS4 is a gaming machine that is not only more powerful (and cheaper) it can also do many of the things the One can.
You can watch whatever you want to watch and get an invite, you'll have to put on your workout clothes though, that way you can grab the controller and launch the game yourself, such a pain, right?

Can you please tell me what game will be more immersive with Kinect? Because, for what I've seen, you can't do much other than dance or yell at it, a bit more accurately than in the past

Death4571d ago

xHeavYx,

I think you are missing the point. The Xbox One is a game machine that also does other things. This shouldn't be a shock to you since the PS3 did many things besides games and so does the PS4.

Can you watch Netflix/LiveTV/Hulu/a Blu-ray etc and still get friend invites on the PS3 or PS4? Belive it or not, some people use their TV's for stuff besides gaming. The idea is connectivity. Is it easier to game when you are always connected to your friends or harder? Sure, you can use your phone to call your friends, but you can also send them a letter in the mail. The concept you are missing is the way to make it easier and more fluid.

As for Kinects abilities, just because you choose not to comprehend what it can add, that doesn't mean developers will ignore it too. The idea is to make gaming more immersive. A 1080p native gaming experience sounds nicer than a 1080p upscaled one, but it doesn't make gaming more immersive. Evolving the way we interact with games will.

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SpinalRemains1384571d ago

1080p/60 fps
Remote Play
Innovative game play we haven't seen.

Apps and other stuff are not very important. Its always about the videogames.

OldAcc4571d ago

1080p, 60fps and remote play have already been done by the Wii U lol.

fattyuk4571d ago (Edited 4571d ago )

Finicially supported 1st party studio games!!!

oh and ps plus

DEEBO4571d ago (Edited 4571d ago )

remote play,better hardware for me

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Star Wars: Squadrons to Follow Old School Unlockables Formula

Ian Frazier recently shared how players could unlock stuff and the possibility of DLCs in upcoming video game Star Wars: Squadrons.

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CobraKai2158d ago

What the $40? I’m sold. And it’s nice to see EA learning from the debacle that was Battlefront 2 launch

Double_O_Revan2157d ago

EA trying to buy good faith from the customer. They know they fucked up with BF2. Promising a full game at a reduced price and the promise of no Microtransactions. Might work.

CorndogBurglar2157d ago

They've been trying this. They did it with Jedi: Fallen Order too. Its going to take them doing this with multiple games in order to win back the community's trust though, if its even doable.

CorndogBurglar2157d ago

Did they promise no microtransactions? I knoe they said everything can be unlocked by playing the game. But that doesn't mean they won't include microtransactions for people that want to get everything quickly. And if they do that, it also doesn't mean they won't make it a huge grind to unlock everything through gameplay.

Because we should all have learned by now that being able to unlock everything with gameplay is not the same as saying no microtransactions.

CorndogBurglar2157d ago

There's a couple things I'm not sold on yet.

Sure, its $40. But its a 4 hour campaign and 2 multiplayer modes with only 4 ships per faction. So it SHOULD be $40, really. Though it is nice to see EA actually do the right thing by pricing it appropriately.

And whats really bothering me is that it looks like both modes are just 5v5 with no bots. Thats just bad. I can understand the dogfighting mode being like that. But the mode where you have to take out an enemy capital ship? There needs to be a bunch of bots flying around too. Its kind of silly that a capital ship would only launch 5 fighters to defend itself. There just doesn't look like there's enough going on in that mode without fighters flying all over the place.

Nodoze2157d ago

40 seems high based on what it is and considering the very low level of effort. They have taken the Starfighter Assault mode directly from the BF2 title. They have re-swizzled it (by how much remains to be seen). They are reusing maps, ship models, character models, heck almost everything. The game has a grand total of 6 maps. 6. 2 of which look like direct copies of what we have already played.

It is LOCKED into 1st person view. Oh and there is entirely too much diversity and inclusion for my liking. Perhaps one of the unlocks is a white male character as they appear to be as rare as Unicorns now.

jukins2157d ago

$40 is too high for 5v5 crossplay vr compatible multiplayer starwarsfight game?!?! Man it must be nice to be so jaded. 6 maps multiple ships multiple modes i just get lol. I know its ea and its cool to hate but theyre last efforts as far as star wars goes have been good they "fixed" battlefront its free jedi knight was good and now this.

Hikoran2157d ago

Are you still talking?

CobraKai2157d ago

What the? Only 4 hours? And locked in first person. I’m sold and sold.
I love games I can finish in a weekend. I mean I pay $30 for 4K Blu Ray sometimes. $40 isn’t that bad.

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dan3232157d ago (Edited 2157d ago )

Yeah. This is super cool news, I will buy this game now, even preorder.
It's good to hear that EA changed with the star wars games at least...

Mr_Writer852157d ago

The fact this is been seen as a great thing saddens me.

This should be a standard, instead it's now seen as a stand out feature to brag about..

Tell you what would be something to brag about. Being able to say your game is so fun you don't need a progression system to lock things behind like every other multiplayer game.

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AK912157d ago

I'm still skeptical I'll wait to see the final product but after Jedi Fallen Order I can see EA doing this right.

CorndogBurglar2157d ago

I looked at other sites reporting on this same news and I did see a tweet from a developer clarifying that Microtransactions won't be in the game at all.

So thats definitely a good thing. But I really wish there was more to this game. A 4 hour campaign, 2 MP modes, and 4 ships per faction is just not a lot of content to keep people interested for long. Especially if its really only 5v5 in both modes with no bots.

Darkborn2157d ago

It's almost like the execs at EA woke up and decided they wanted to do good things this past year. Hope it keeps up.

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Star Wars: Squadrons Lets You Do Drifting Maneuvers, Supports Full Controls Remapping

Star Wars: Squadrons Creative Director Ian Frazier revealed that you'll be able to do drifting maneuvers in the upcoming space combat game. He also confirmed the ability to entirely remap controls - buttons and even sticks.

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Star Wars: Squadrons — everything you need to know

A deep dive into the game EA calls the ‘definitive’ Star Wars flight experience.