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Microsoft dev admits higher resolution visuals offer 'a big improvement' over 720p

Kinect Sports Rivals developer Rare has admitted that outputting at a higher native resolution than 720p offers "a big improvement" to a game's visuals.

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GarrusVakarian4558d ago (Edited 4558d ago )

Of course it does, every gamer who isn't in denial knows this already. Especially when you start going into the 32 inch plus TV sizes.

1920x1080p is always going to look better than 1280x720p from whatever angle you view it from. Nice to see an X1 dev admit to this instead of downplaying it like some others are doing.

ZodTheRipper4558d ago

Exactly how I wanted to start my comment when reading that title :D
It's twice the resolution, who would even dare to deny that other than rabid fanboys and MS PR guys like Phil Spencer who says that it's more about "the experience" lol.

Blackdeath_6634558d ago

in all fairness to phil its not his fault he has to make up bullshit to cover his companies shortcomings. at least he isn't giving false info

abzdine4558d ago

only fanboys will deny that. native high resolution is the way to go bottom line.

amiga-man4558d ago (Edited 4558d ago )

Why does it need admitting it's just is, anyone who says otherwise are either stupid or blind.

MRMagoo1234558d ago

In other news the sun is hot derp lol

Dagobert4558d ago

Well at the end of the day Phil Spencer is just doing his job, I'm sure deep down he knows the system will fail.

Microsoft's biggest problem was that they felt confident with how the 360 was doing and thought they could do better. Instead they failed, and had they listened to consumer feedback from the beginning they wouldn't be facing all this now.

Guwapo774558d ago

@ amiga-man - They can't be both?

mewhy324558d ago

Yep. There's no spinning that one. Not sure why anyone who knows anything about graphics would think that the same game running at 720p vs 1080p that 720p would be better?????? That makes as much sense as paying 100.00 more for a weaker machine....no logical at all.

badz1494558d ago

OMG Microsoft dev, you guys know NOTHING! resolution is NOT important! all you need is a magic upscaller, noobs! /s

darthv724558d ago

i know my math is really rusty but wouldnt twice the resolution of 1280x720 be something like 2560x1440?

ZodTheRipper4558d ago

720p = 1280x720 = 921.600 pixel
1080p = 1920×1080 = 2.073.600 pixel

2073600/921600 = 2.25

UltimateMaster4558d ago

Oh oh, he might loose his job.
You can't disagree with the bosses.
MS: "SD is teh futurz!"/s
Their word, not mine...

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thrust4558d ago

I agree if both have the same AA.

but if 1080p no AA

720p with full AA the one with full AA would look better.

on my laptop i would put the game rez down a bit so i could use AA on some games because it would look better

GarrusVakarian4558d ago (Edited 4558d ago )

No.

A full HD 1920x1080 game with no AA would still look sharper than a 1280x720p game with AA. Stop downplaying it to make yourself feel better.

"Not making my self feel better at all am still going to enjoy all my games :) "

But that's exactly what you were doing. Making things up to make yourself feel better about your purchase, i see it all the time. You blatantly haven't ever played a native 1080p game, otherwise you wouldn't have said what you just said ^^^.

TheBigShamona4558d ago (Edited 4558d ago )

Im sorry Thrust but thats just not accurate.

Any PC gamer knows that with Native 1080p on a 1080p display, you can almost get away with no AA.

Turning off the AA can sometimes be the difference between getting your Rig to run Ultra vs High settings.

(More AA is always great but most people have to compromise in some aspect with their Rigs)

Edited to fix spelling

thrust4558d ago

Not making my self feel better at all am still going to enjoy all my games :)

titanfall is the one am.looking forward to the most.

DoesUs4558d ago

The higher the res, the less AA becomes an issue. I'd take 1080p with no AA anyday. Fortunately there are PS4 games that achieve 1080p with AA. 8)

dennett3164558d ago

720p being upscaled to 1080p introduces aliasing issues. You can see it in many Xbox One gameplay videos and footage.

mistertwoturbo4558d ago

What you need to do, is go to Fry's or something and have them demo you a game on a 1920x1080 monitor. Load up a game at native 1920x1080 and then switch it to 1280x720. You will find the 1280x720 image much much more blurrier with bigger jagged lines and pixels the size of your fist.

badz1494558d ago

@trust

LOL how clueles are you, actually? do you even know what AA is? and why it's needed?

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Mike134nl4558d ago

Nice title I assume that's why the kinect game is running at 1080p.

JackISbacK4558d ago

yeah we all know that,it is mutiny towards fans that ms is stil quite and are not taking any steps that what should be done to maintains same fans or higher fans ,yeah we all are unhappy because at last gen atlest all around the world xbox 360 had a lead because it was an amZing console and we all loved it ,but it is realy painful to see the death of this console ,i'am realy waiting for good news and they are bringing bad news every day ,i cannot wait for the launch of both consoles so that this bullshit may stops and i can decide which console to buy first.

Blacksand14558d ago

The XB1 is 720p with a 1080p up-scaled because MS tried to make it a t.v hub first and a gaming console second. My Fios is 720p reg. channels and 1080p on HD channels. When you mix the two that's what you get 720p with a up-scaled of 1080p, because of t.v part of the console.

assdan4558d ago

Its sad it takes a dev to say this for some people to believe it.

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Mikelarry4558d ago

come on now, are these devs that arrogant that believe we take thier word for the gospel. they seem to think gamers are uneducated and will believe any crap they spew.

Mikelarry4558d ago (Edited 4558d ago )

how am i in denial????, 1080p is an improvement over 720p every one knows this. these devs coming out and saying the above is like they believe gamers are unable to come to that conclusion on their own

xxxsiegezzz4558d ago

@Mikelarry

I have seen so many comments that 720p and 1080p doesn't really have so big difference(some are even on this article) so I can say that every one doesn't know or wan't to belive this.
It's great that xbox dev admids instead of lying.

Gazondaily4558d ago (Edited 4558d ago )

Wtf are you on about? Read the article ffs instead of just reading the title.

"We went up to 960 and it got a bit crisper, and I remember looking at it going, 'actually, yeah, that's a big improvement."

The title is complete click bait. But you see, I know that because I clicked on the article and then the source it was referring to.

" they seem to think gamers are uneducated"

.....

christocolus4558d ago

@septic

i am not one bit surprised..i read the full interview yesterday, its alot more than that. the guy said 1080p wasnt their target, they added it cos they could...its funny how fbs break down positive articles just to find a little part where it can be spun in their favor...lmao..its really ridiculous and getting pathetic..this isnt the first time ive seen such here and its mostly on n4g in see it happening this way...anyways the full interview was quite cool and kinect sports rivals is definitly on my list...

Mikelarry4558d ago

@ septic i am on about the devs LATELY coming out with ridiculous notions and catch phrases about resolutions fiasco. they should not jumnp the boat and make claims about targets they cannot meet and when they fail to meet these targets they come out with excuses to try and downplay it. i did read the article if you don't like my comment that's why the disagree button is there for, no need to get in a blood rage.

PEACE

Gazondaily4558d ago

@Mike

" i am on about the devs LATELY coming out with ridiculous notions and catch phrases about resolutions fiasco. "

Where is the ridiculous notion or catch phrase here?

imt5584558d ago

No shit, devs. Glad to hear.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio1d 11h ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing1d 9h ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster921d 10h ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit1d 10h ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing1d 9h ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster921d 7h ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

Tanktopmaster921d 7h ago

Let me be clear. This is sarcasm

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay3d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn23d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn23d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown3d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay3d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay3d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac2d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger3d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster30003d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde3d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde3d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent754d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_2d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.