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Do Specs Really Matter?

In a few short months, the latest consoles from Sony and Microsoft will be hitting store shelves. While many stories discuss upcoming game releases and system functionality, rumblings about ‘which system is more powerful’ have been getting more and more popular. Techradar claims that the PS4 is 50% faster than the Xbox One, while others claim that Microsoft’s latest has much better support and architecture for gaming. In either case, how much of a difference will it really make?
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christrules00414584d ago (Edited 4584d ago )

Should it matter to the gamer? Depends on the person. Some people want the more powerful console to ensure they can get the best looking or better performance out of there games. Since both consoles are X86 frame rate shouldn't be as much as a problem as the PS3s SPUs are.

To the developer though specs are there bread and butter. The tools they get and the better hardware they have unlocks the best game they can make. It's like running Killzone: Shadowfall on the PS3 compared to what they could do on the PS4. Iknow it's a PS4 title but think of what it would look like on the PS3. They would have to downgrade it massively.

The specs/tools they get are what unlocks the ability for them to make amazing games. How could that not matter? They basically hold hands with each other.....

DeadManIV4584d ago

Well when one is cheaper yet more powerful....

Genesis54584d ago

Well if frame rate and resolution are important to you. Good hardware kind of matters.

BallsEye4584d ago

Well, it's yet to be proven that it's more powerful. So far we have seen only knack being played on a real ps4, a game from ps4 architect, that struggles to hold 30 fps. Other ps4 games shown were running on PC's often crashing to windows. I keep on hearing how MS is bad but sony is the sneaky one putting fake ps4's that are connected to PC's. Console is almost out...why no real versions running on actual hardware?

http://ic.pics.livejournal....

Enemy4584d ago (Edited 4584d ago )

@ BallsInEyes: What's funny about your post is that Killzone: Shadow Fall and Driveclub are already running on PS4 natively at 1080p. Not just that, but for you to say that "it hasn't been proven" is the same as saying you don't know how to read. The specs have been out for months upon months. What are you gonna say next, that 8GB GDDR5 RAM isn't proven to be better than 8GB DDR3 RAM? The PS4's GPU alone already murdered what was inside Xbox One.

Hell, Ryse is stuck at 900p native and it's not even close to being as detailed as Killzone: Shadow Fall. It's a QTE game with glitched out combat. Surprise surprise, it's a Kinect game at heart. Killer Instinct, a simple fighting game with two characters on screen, stuck at 720p, lol. Forza 5, with baked lighting, no textures, static backgrounds, trying to compete with Ridge Racer 7 as most baked 1080p/60fps game of all time.

On topic: It's not just frame rate and resolution, though. It's everything. Anyone saying specs don't matter to them is lying. Probably bitter that the competition is 50% more powerful.

How do you justify spending all that money for a console if the specs were subpar? Yes, we buy consoles for games, but in a new generation, if the games still look exactly the same as they did before, I don't see the point in buying that console. Graphics matter just as much as the games. I'm buying "next gen"

thexmanone4584d ago (Edited 4584d ago )

@Enemy

PS4 Fans are Probably bitter that Xbox live is 60% more powerful then psn. So maybe specs do matter.

nirwanda4584d ago

@ballseyes if what you're saying is true then the videos of a crashed ps4 going to the new home screen and people filming it must be great fakes from eurogamer expo.

nirwanda4584d ago

@enermy I don't get the hype over killzones graphics, alot of the textures at eurogamer looked pretty average, some of the wall especially looked cr@p.

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1OddWorld4584d ago

We compare product specs to make an informed purchase. So yes specs matter. Then we look at price to compare what kind of bang we are getting for our buck.

PS4 Better Specs, Better Price...
Bang Bang
Xbone drops dead

bumnut4584d ago

Not everyone, some people want the best money can buy and don't really care about bang for buck.

Thats why some people spend thousands on gaming PC's

I gave you an agree btw, just saying not eveyone thinks like you.

DeadManIV4584d ago

Those people have too much money

1OddWorld4583d ago

I have spent several thousands building gaming rigs. It is an amazing feeling to build your own PC and see it power through everything you throw at it, so I do agree with your statement as well.

But would you spend more for less when buying a console?

TechMech24584d ago

Honestly I see the only benefit to having an Xbox one is the online multiplayer. I gotta go with the system with the better online, even if it is more expensive and inferior to playstation 4 in pretty much every other way

Hicken4583d ago

So how is the XB1's online compared to the PS4's?

Oh, that's right: nobody knows, because nobody's used the online on either of them.

TechMech24583d ago

@hicken
I'm basing my claims on my experiences with the two systems and Microsofts emphasis on adding servers

BallsEye4584d ago

Would be cool to see ps4 run anything else than knack at 20+ fps

http://ic.pics.livejournal....

Newsflash, even killzone was running on pc. All of the games were crashing to windows as well.

Bang bang my ass. You guys eat sony PR too easily, they are sneaky bastards... Putting up fake empty ps4's that are secretly connected to windows PC....way to go.

bsquwhere4584d ago

The best part about the pics you posted is that the second one on top is an Xbox One. You can call it PR all you like, but there has been real working PS4s showing real games. Can't say the same about Xbox. BTW I think you got Balmers balls in your eye.

ShwankyShpanky4583d ago

"pic" "PS4 isn't even on!"

Yet the blue LED strip is illuminated in both pics, and the player is using a controller that's plugged into the PS4.

Keep reeeeeeaching.

MGS_fanatico_4584d ago

I seriously hate this question with a passion! Why isn't the author playing with an Atari 2600? Gee, I wonder...
Specs must matter to him. In fact, I'd argue that they matter to EVERYONE, to some extent.
Obviously they DO matter, otherwise we'd never feel the need to upgrade! Games are definitely the deciding factor though (looks at PS2), but given the choice you'd want the best specs AND best games (assuming you aren't a fanboy of some sort).

Software_Lover4584d ago

He's probably not playing the Atari because he can't play Halo or Killzone on it. Just a thought.

dcj05244583d ago

And how do you think those games would've looked on the Atari?

Flutterby4584d ago

Of course specs matter if they didn't we would not get new generation consoles. I might add also who in the hell besides MS themselves have claimed the xbone has better architecture for gaming ........the answer is nobody. The only reason these articles are made is because MS fanboys hate the fact the ps4 is the better cheaper more powerful console and want to downplay it.

Software_Lover4584d ago

These same articles were made when ps3/XBox 360 were released. Nothing has changed.

Even is the next Xbox is more powerful than the ps5 these same articles will emerge. It has nothing to do with fanboys of either camp. Some of us really just dont understand the big deal. These consoles are close enough where the games should matter.

A good game is a good game. A bad game is a bad game. Doesn't matter the specs of the console.

DeadManIV4584d ago

Could you not argue that one could make a better game when they have more freedom (better specs) to express their game

abusador4584d ago

Article number 1000000000000000 about the same bs, Smh

Next!!!!

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Xbox Game Pass Ultimate Price Update

Starting today, Game Pass Ultimate drops from $29.99 to $22.99 a month. PC Game Pass will also drop from $16.49 to $13.99 a month. Prices may vary by region.

Beginning this year, future Call of Duty titles won’t join Game Pass Ultimate or PC Game Pass at launch. New Call of Duty games will be added to Game Pass Ultimate and PC Game Pass during the following holiday season (about a year later), while existing Call of Duty titles already in the library will continue to be available.

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Neonridr2d ago

can't wait to hear how this is spun negatively.

darthv722d ago

Its nice there is some kind of drop... but is that all they really value CoD to be, a lousy $7 a month?

I was hoping it would drop by $10.

MisterBoots2d ago

That $7 equates to $84 per year - which is more than COD new ($69.99 + tax).

So - you can get the exact same thing - and save a few bucks - or you can skip COD and pocket the savings or use toward another game - or games if on sale.

That’s how I’m taking it - and is enough for me to sign back up after canceling the day it went to $29.99.

fr0sty2d ago

It's unlikely that COD is going to be the only title they stop offering day one, but we'll see how they play their hand.

VenomUK1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

Including Call of Duty in Game Pass is just leaving money on the table. When the Elder Scrolls VI releases hopefully Microsoft doesn’t launch it into Game Pass. Then it can make more profits and use it give more value to Xbox console owners!

1Victor2d ago

Can’t wait to hear how this will be spun extremely positive. 🤣
I wonder why knowing Microsoft thick head something must has happened in the background in the levels of Xbox one and Kinect 🤷🏿

fr0sty2d ago

Any price cut is a good thing in this day and age, but it also reveals a flaw in GamePass' design that we've all been calling out for years... it's unsustainable, especially with day and date releases on new games. COD won't be the only game they exclude, they're setting a precedent with it that they'll likely expand upon in the future.

At least they're being realistic about it now. I bet in the future we're going to start seeing them try to subsidize the high price of new consoles by making you buy 2-3 years of gamepass with it to get the console cheaper. I'm still not sure that'll be enough to save either the hardware or gamepass, but we'll see.

Neonridr2d ago

price cuts are good, the removal of Call of Duty is clearly something they are planning to leverage. But considering everyone around N4G claims Call of Duty sucks, it's not a big loss now is it?

LucasRuinedChildhood2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Well, they're removing their biggest game from being Day 1 on the service so GamePass users can buy it instead. That's the intention.

They increased the price to $30, then removed COD and dropped it to still be above the old price.

It's an understandable compromise but the consumer Ultimately is getting less.

Think the calculation is that *most* COD users don't play that many games and aren't interested in GamePass. The GamePass users who do like COD would just buy it anyway. MS reportedly lost out a lot of money last year putting COD on GamePass.

Bathyj2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Well Call of duty could just be the beginning. What other games can they trim from the service to get the price down? How long before it's just the Xbox core first party studio games and not the one to everquired?

Create an interesting scenario with Call of duty as well. Will people wait a year to play it? Does that split the fan base? Will it hurt to Call of duty more than a benefits Game pass? These are all legitimate questions which we will find the answers to in the coming years

And I don't consider my post negative spin just realistic observation. At the very least this backtracking can be seen as an admittance that the previous strategy of gamepass was not sustainable as most of us said.

darthv722d ago

I'd get rid of the EA and Ubisoft+ too. That should bring the price down more. The only game from either of those parts of the service i played was jedi Fallen order / survivor. both of which i also bought on disc so it was more of a convenience i didnt have to put the disc in to play when i was playing them via remote play. And really that is why i still use GPU and PS+. its the convenience of having the games ready to play from a remote location. I havent picked up my consoles controllers in at least a few years. I guess that makes me a bad gamer, but so what. i'm still playing the games, just not physically on the machines themselves. GCloud and Portal are my go to now.

GhostScholar2d ago

They’ll say no one is buying game pass so they had to drop the price , even though it’s been extremely profitable.

Outside_ofthe_Box2d ago

Why remove CoD if it's *extremely* profitable then? Why even increase it to begin with?

Outside_ofthe_Box2d ago

Always funny seeing those that defended the price hike go "how you gonna spin this now!" after the price drops.

You should be thanking those that called it out. Obviously this is a good thing especially with everything increasing nowadays.

Also, what happened to the reason why that the Activision acquisition was good for gaming was that CoD would be day one on GamePass? Another backtrack on that I guess...

What removing CoD on GamePass shows, is that it's not sustainable for for the more popular and/or bigger budget games because of the sales you lose out on like people have been saying since inception. It never made sense to put CoD on there unless you thought it's popularity would draw in a lot of subscribers which it obviously didn't. And if it was as sustainable as people claim they wouldn't have increased the price while putting it on there in the first place.

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KicksnSnares2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

New Xbox Boss the 🐐?

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Vits2d ago

In my region, it’s still more expensive than it was before the last price hike, but it’s a far more viable price point.

Losing Call of Duty from the service, honestly, has zero effect on me, and given they chose to make it so, it’s probably not the big seller they originally thought. Overall, it’s really good news, but I still think they have work to do on the tier structure, having Premium and PC at the same price point with different features feels odd.

Lightning772d ago

Yep take COD out. Them waiting a year is interesting but it make sense. They don't want certain ppl waiting 4 to 6 months they want fomo and maximum sales. Wait a year while the new one releases.

Ok so far so good.

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Starfield Was the Best-Selling Game in the US Following PS5 Release

Senior Director and Video Game Industry Advisor at Circana Mat Piscatella has revealed Starfield was the best-selling video in the US based on dollar sales for the week ending April 11th.

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jznrpg3d ago

For the week that nothing else of note launched.. I’m sure it will sell some copies but look at what released that week

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z2g2d ago

It’s not a requirement to buy games every month or whenever one is released. I don’t think people are going to spend $70+ on something they don’t care about.

GotGame8182d ago

I have talked about not being able to get into this game at launch. I still haven't given it another go, even though I think it looks great and has come a very long way since launch. Some people just want it to fail, even if it is a great game. I know why, we all do.

Starfield didn't just have the best sales for a week, but it was pre-ordered on PS store, with very nice numbers. I really need to start it again, on my PS5 though. So I can see how it is now. It has had some major updates.

I am looking forward to it all over again now.

Huey_My_D_Long2d ago

Its not that people want the game to fail. Its that Bethesda wont ever improve their games if you guys keep calling slop like starfield great games. Pure as that. Formulaic, chasing the trends, slop.

Like Bethesda has fallen off since FO4.

Ive a PC 4070, no interest in Starfield since the beginning since despite Bethesda owning some serious FPS legacy within their ranks...They just like seem to hate good shooting mechanics.

I dont see whats the appeal and thats ok. But how can you guys call it great? By what metric? The story? The Gameplay? The package all together? Hell I'm enjoying Crimson Desert, but I've got my issues with some design choices, but I do think the game is better as a whole than its individual parts. Is that the case for Starfield?
To be honest alot of you starfield stans dont make a great case for yourself, since I've never heard a starfield say what it is they enjoyed about it other just it being another Bethesda game that feels familiar yet new to them. Yall dont make the case on whats so great about starfield that keeps you coming back.
What does it do that makes it great that everyone like me is missing?

Like I wanted to like the Starfield, but after seeing its first trailer, it pretty much came out like I thought it was. Bethesda has been coasting off prestige for years now. and honestly starfield is proof of that.

CrimsonIdol2d ago

I'm fine with the game being janky Bethesda-core etc. For what it's worth it's more polished than previous games have been and the shooting mechanics are fine, feels pretty good even.

What I'm not fine with is it just being completely dull in every way. Even if they managed to resolve the structure of the game constantly sending you back and forth through maps and loading screens it's still going to be dull. The original The Outer Worlds did Fallout in space better, and that was hardly perfect (I haven't played the second one so I can't comment on that). At least The Outer Worlds had some interesting characters, enemies and locations. Starfield has none of that. They can argue that it's more grounded/going for realism or some nonsense (yet it's still doing Star Wars/Firefly style space travel) but it's fundamentally dull.

I dropped loads of money on a copy of this game at launch and I've no desire to get my money's worth out of it, I pretty quickly cut my losses and moved on. I don't know what happened to the writers for Bethesda, I presume they all moved on and have since been replaced by Jenny from accounting.

sweatyrich2d ago

I agree with @CrimsonIdol
I played the game to completed, but it's version of NG+ simply didn't appeal to me, so I never went back to it.
There's base-building, but it really serves no point, other than, there's base building. If you're into that, you have it, but I didn't touch it at all, as it wasn't part of the story ... At all.

The main character models are "ok", but the NPCs are just bad.

And IMO, people shouldn't be OK with a Bethesda game being janky. They're a big company, and should be jank-free by now!

MrBaskerville1d 22h ago

I've given it another go and with the new more modular difficulty i managed to balance it a bit like Stalker 2 and it has been a lot more enjoyable this time around. The free roaming in space also helps a bit. Still prefer older Bethesda games, but it's growing on me
ever so slowly.

Jin_Sakai2d ago

Curious gamers. They’ll soon find out soon enough how trash it is.

Reaper22_2d ago

I dont think so. The games has been well received on PS5. Getting good scores too.

Jin_Sakai2d ago

Digital Foundry showed how bad the game runs even on PS5 Pro and crashes. It can’t even hold 60fps and not a looker to begin with. 🤷‍♂️

Grilla2d ago

I found out. I loved FO4 and wanted to judge Starfield for myself. I should have waited for a sale.

Putte2d ago

It's still as Bad as it was on Xbox. Of cause some playstation user's are curious and because there is a lot of them then the sales are gonna be somewhat okay for small time period. But still a very sad story what starfield turned out to be. Maybe the biggest disappointment in my gaming life.

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_9d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle9d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit9d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog9d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog9d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad9d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_9d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage9d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda9d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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