That is absolute nonsense Digital and I think it speaks volumes that you decide to attack my standards rather than form an argument as to why the Steam controller is in anyway promising. As it stands it is going to turn alot of people off, and the fact is, KB and M for PC is always the way.

And if you think this will actually work with RTS's (one of my favourite genre's) then you have already brought into the hype. I have serious doubts it will work at all. It is like saying it will work fine with Microsoft Flight simulator. You actually think devs will build an RTS around this or any controller? They won't as they are meant for KB and M. Controllers for RTS are just too limited and the thought of playing one with a controller makes me feel sick.

First of all, saying that keyboard and mouse is "always the way" is complete nonsense. I game 90% of the time on PC and some games are better with KB&M and some are better with a gamepad.

Neither control method is ideal however. Gamepads lack a certain precision that you get with kb & m, but kb & m lacks any kind of feedback. Also, while the mouse is very good for aiming and looking, the WASD keys are far from ideal for controlling movement. It's either go, or don't go. There is no precision or control over the degree or speed of motion.

KB & M, while great for many games, isn't really ideal for a living room setting. Sure, it can be done, but it is more cumbersome than it should be and it definitely does turn some people off from PC gaming, or turns current PC gamers off from the idea of using their PCs in their living room on their big screen TVs.

Something doesn't have to be actually "broken" to be something that can still be improved upon. Yes, current control methods "work", but so did gamepads going back to the NES or before. They worked and people thought they were happy with them, but those people still adopted, and even came to prefer, the new innovations in game input that came along.

@ Pintheshadows

I'll tell you why I think it's both innovative and it solves a problem that would exist.

Valve had to specifically design this controller for the purposes of being able to play practically every game on Steam. Now since a large chunk of games are not even controller compatible, this would not have been possible with just putting analogue sticks there. It would have been a case of hoping for the best, and hoping that developers add stick support.

The way this works, is that is emulates and tricks PC motion using the trackpads. So ... recap.

1) It solves the problem of sticks not being able to support most games on their console-style Steam Machines, which is the whole purpose of them breaking into this market.

2) It's innovative because it solves a problem that would have existed across a whole platform of games, and will most likely be as precise as the KB&M setup because of it.

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I feel like i'm jumping on Valve's defense here without having experienced the controller myself, so just to clarify, this is what I think and not necessarily exactly how it may end up being. I'm basing it on what we know about it.

McLovin was in kick-ass? Isn't he from SuperBad.

Wait.

NO WAY!

REDMIST/MFER IS MCLOVIN!?!?

Hammads mind is blown, my work here is done.